
One game we're looking forward to finally getting our hands on here at Nintendo Life is Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp. As mentioned in the title, it includes both of the Game Boy Advance titles, with a number of new features such as online play now included.
The first impressions of the upcoming Switch release have now started to surface online. We've even shared our own "hands on" here at Nintendo Life - calling it a "slicker, shinier and sassier" take and we're definitely looking forward to getting stuck into the rest of the game when it arrives later this month. You can read our full thoughts below:
So, what did other outlets have to say? To kick things off, The Verge entertainment editor Andrew Webster said the first few hours of the remakes were a welcome return and the games were just as good as they were back in the day:
"I’m jealous of anyone who gets to experience these games for the first time, but for me, booting up the original Advance Wars again was like slipping into a comfortable old sweater. Even if it looks different now — the games have been given a slick makeover, and the more detailed battlefields now actually look like they take place on a tabletop — it’s adorable. I especially love much more expressive characters that make reading through the storyline a lot more enjoyable."
Wccftech's news editor & staff writer Nathan Birch enjoyed it, even if it doesn't "reinvent the wheel":
"Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp doesn’t mess with the classics, bringing a pair of rock-solid old-school tactical strategy games into a new era with just a few tweaks to make the experience more approachable. While I have more to play, part of me does wonder what the audience for this package is, as the hardcores have already played these games to death, and newbies may not be enticed by their retro trappings and WayForward’s inconsistent visual makeover. I have no doubt some new recruits will be convinced to join the battle, but I’m not sure how big this new army will be."
God Is A Geek summed it up as a "faithful remake" in its own hands-on preview, but did note difficulty spikes. Here's what Editor-in-Chief Adam Cook had to say:
"Advance Wars 1+2: Re-boot Camp, so far, seems to scratch an itch I didn’t know I had. Failure isn’t met with frustration, instead it’s greeted with a smile, and a hurried restarting of a battle with a want to do better. I may still be relatively early on in the campaign, but despite having played these games over twenty years ago, they feel fresh again. The cartoon-aesthetic feels right for the characters (mostly), and some of the music absolutely slaps...I can’t wait to dig deeper to see more of what it has to offer."
The Gamer was also reminded just how challenging this classic series can be - with Lead Features Editor Jade King mentioning how it has "little interest in holding your hand":
"Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp is a fun yet familiar delight so far, faithful to the original games while enhancing its visuals to not only feel current, but imbued with an extra dose of personality that alleviates the otherwise bleak subject matter. It’s fun and challenging while understanding the appeal of strategic mechanics with little interest in holding your hand."
And VGC's Editor-in-Chief Andy Robinson also enjoyed revisiting these classics, noting how it kept much of the original's design with a "big glow-up" to its presentation:
"In its opening missions, Switch’s 2023 remake – helmed by California-based WayForward – appears to do a great job of maintaining what made the original Advance Wars great. In its opening hours at least, its design stays incredibly faithful to the original, while its presentation has achieved a pleasing glow-up, with the sort of beautifully animated characters, bursting with personality, that players have come to expect from the studio behind Shantae."
Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp launches exclusively for Nintendo Switch on 21st April 2023.
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Everyone just buy it. Advance Wars 1 & 2 are two of the most exceptional games of their respective genre. ❤
@EVIL-C No thanks, I'll wait for a sale. This game is not worth $60, and if the online features are as limited as we're hearing, there's even less reason to buy this at full price. The Mega Man Battle Network Legacy Collection has more online features and those are GBA ports!
Advance Wars >>>> Fire Emblem
@Thief It's a Nintendo game. By the time it goes on sale the Switch 2 will be announced and likely have a release date. Good luck.
@YoshiF2 apples and oranges to me. Just like old SSI games have their deal along with 4x games and grand strategy kings - Paradox. Each have something to add and enjoy.
I'm usually not one for remasters but Military Madness would be great for fans of Advance Wars. It hasn't been remade since the Wii days.
So, the usual remaster that changes basically nothing and Nintendo will charge full price for? What's the point? I got them on virtual console for far cheaper.
@Cashews Both BOTW and MK8D saw physical and digital sales within the first year of their respective releases, and since I suspect Reboot Camp will not exactly sell gangbusters, I could see sales as early as this summer. A large point of contention whenever this game is discussed is the $60 price, and once Nintendo sees low sales numbers, they're not going to wait to put this title on sale.
@Thief Those are two quite different series. You do realize that these two GBA games would have been around the same price 20 years ago, right? So that's a terrible argument right there.
And they didn't have any online functionality back then, and much simpler art assets. Sounds like someone just isn't as appreciative of AW as one like myself is.
@Thief I got my first switch around that time. At the time the switch wasnt the gaming zeitgeist it is today imo. They were still fighting and scratching. Covid + Animal Crossing changed that narrative.
Now they don't have to. I don't think they will until they are bottom of the heap again. 2cents I could be wrong and you could be dead on. gl. I'm probably with you I still have the original with my OG very much working GBA SP - this doesn't seem compelling enough to buy a new one. I might for 40 though. cheers!
This is your time, everyone. Nintendo is actually bringing back an obscure franchise everyone puts in their Nintendo Direct bingo cards. Now it's time for everyone who has constantly asked for it (including me) to BUY it so the decisions we want are supported.
@Thief This.
If they actually released this finished game over a year it ago and not artificially delayed it for stupid reasons [It IS stupid by the simple fact that they blame the war for delay, yet in the end still release the game anyway while war is still ongoing with no end in sight that anyone with common sense/knows history could have easily predicted was gonna happen a year ago] it would have got multiple sales by now. Not worth full price for me no sir especially with Engage story dlc out + XB3 story dlc dropping soon.
@Arawn93 Exactly. Nintendo should have dropped this in August 2022 when the biggest title to drop on the Switch was Pac-Man World Re-Pac. Now, there's just too much coming out. Even in April alone, the Final Fantasy and Mega Man Battle Network collections are much more appealing in comparison to this.
@jedisquidward No, this shouldn't be treated as some kind of charity where people throw their money at a product regardless of it's quality or price just to support obscure franchises. Reboot Camp had years to polish, but from what I have seen and read, Nintendo and/or WayForward didn't take it seriously and instead expect people to drop $60 on something that is absolutely inferior to other first-party titles going for the same price.
@EVIL-C Klonoa released a two-game collection last year with remastered graphics - only $40. Everything I have seen and heard about Reboot Camp does not justify $60, and I strongly believe this game will see numerous sales in the coming months. If you want to drop $60 on this, be my guest, but the divided reactions are overwhelmingly loud and it will ultimately impact sales. And for a niche franchise like Advance Wars, that can spell the end of any potential revival.
Nice to see the positive previews. Don't mind the difficulty spikes, pretty much expected from an Intelligent Systems SRPG from the 2000s.
@YoshiF2
you truly are the King of Kings.
Despite being a huge fan of Fire Emblem I've never played the GBA Advance Wars games before. I've only played Days of Ruin back on DS years ago which I thought was a great game.
Looking forward to play through these games for the first time ever.
@Uncle_Franklin excellent.
Welp, time to put our money where our mouths are. People kept asking for it, so pony up.
@jedisquidward
Nintendo fans ASSEMBLE!
Nope. We have already purchased / beaten these two on GBA. We don't need to buy this in 60 euro/usd price just for better graphics and online services that I personally will not use. For newcomers, yes it is worth it after a price drop I believe.
I'm waiting for it to become available at my local retailer. I'm checking their site every single day so i can preorder ;-;
It's honestly hard to justify the price of these remakes in a world where Wargroove exists. It's a pity because they are, and no doubt will remain as of this release, exceptional SRPGs. I get that Nintendo has their price policies and I generally do agree with them, but in an instance like this their inflexibility is maddening and will in all likelihood kill any chance of further Advance Wars content. Boo.
I'm curious but it definitely doesn't strike me as worth $60. Maybe around Christmas when they have it on sale for $40, I dunno.
I played the originals several times already and it’s possible that I still own them. They’re great games for those who will experience them for the first time but for me 60 is at least twice too expensive.
Still love these classics. Can’t wait to add the updated versions to the library.
Would love it if sales prompted a famicom/super famicom wars reboot as well.
@EVIL-C *much better art assets
I’ll probably wait with FF and Mega Man around the corner, but still good to see that impressions are positive overall. A shame this couldn’t release when it was originally intended to.
Meh I was interested in picking this up until I seen the price with the crazy Nintentax added.
Will just hold off for Wargrove 2 instead of supporting lazy over priced ports.
I know this game was delayed but finally it is coming out.
I think they nailed it graphically. Looks exactly the way I hoped it would. Day one for sure!
Just preordered my copy!! ^^
@Thief
Why is it not worth the full price? At the same time you have all kinds of crappy games that aren't nearly as fun selling at full price.
Surely it's not a whole new game, but you can't really play these games easily today. Unless you pirate the original AW 1 and 2. But here we have both games in a remade package.
Hmm a lot of people citing difficulty. That's pretty much confirmed my decision to skip this, or at the very least hold of. I think this month I'll get the FF pixel remasters instead.
Pre-ordered, and I really hope sales are respectable as I much prefer this series to the similar Fire Emblem.
So, Metroid Prime Remastered was ok for 40$ but Advance Wars is not worth 30$ (since they are two games)? I don't get it.
I've already pre-ordered this, can't wait. I don't see what the problem with the price is if you've got a job. It's nothing.
@Dazman what if you have kids? A mortgage? Food to buy for a whole family? Energy/Water Bills that are rising? Council tax? Income Tax?
That said...
These two games are the best in the SRPG genre. To suggest they aren't worth $60 is crazy, the hours of enjoyment anyone can get from them is immense!
I love this series and do hope we get the rest of them at some point, or even better a whole new entry. It’ll be good to play these again, as I don’t have a way to play the originals anymore. I do think the price for this and the Megaman games is a bit more than I’d like to spend but I’ll get it them both anyway, tho I really am a bit stuffed on games at the moment. RE4 remake still has my attention and I’m still regularly on splatoon. This time I’ll complete that catalogue.
@quinnyboy58 Honestly, those things are preventing me from hoping on a preorder myself, especially because I’ve played the originals. I know they’ll be good, but I’m not confident I’ll sink into them as if I was experiencing them for the first time (and it doesn’t help that I’ve bought Kirby, Metroid, RE, etc, and I’m getting remake/remaster burnout). I’d like to be able to invest into them to show Nintendo I want a sequel, but I had to buy a car with very little notice instead. Lol. If this was Advance Wars 3 though, I’d probably have said… “I’ll take the risk!”
Good to hear it's good, looking forward to finally finish these games myself!
hmmm, i do want to play this, but graphically i didnt expect it to look like one of those mobile games where the promotion for it pops up on the side of a webpage...
Everytime I question if people know that they can buy games on launch day or not long after at a lower price than MSRP (unfortunately not in every part of the world, but definitely not in few) like I did, preordered a physical copy as soon as they announced it the first time for €49,99 so I'm saving €10!
Of course how much people feel a game is worth to them varies from person to person, but if you're an Advance Wars fan and don't hate the new visuals I'd say even just the local on one console and online multiplayer can be compelling enough (unless of course you don't care about those, but then please state it like @nkarafo did instead of disregarding the game completely).
@Rooty Wargroove's MSRP is $19.99 for one game so assuming that the sequel costs the same (although I wouldn't be surprised if it costed more) it would be $39.98. Personally, I'd say it's fair for Advance Wars to cost $20 more considering it has also 3D assets and the development team is probably bigger than Chucklefish.
@SilverM You're not alone, I don't get it either.
@LikelySatan Art is purely subjective, FYI.
@jedisquidward As you say I have this on the 'Direct Dream List', but that was for a new one and not a rehash. Really pleased that more people will get to enjoy these gems but personally I played them to death and if I feel like replaying I will just dig out the originals.
I've seen a few people in here call this game a SRPG. Advanced Wars is NOT a SRPG - in any way - outside of moving units on tiles. There is no RPG aspect. You have units that do not level up. Individual units don't have a story - except dealing and receiving death at your command. You can make up a story about how their families are left without fathers so that the commanders can find their personal glory but that is for you to decide.
SRPGs are Disgaea, Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem. That isn't what this is.
@Chaotic_Neutral In what way are these ports lazy?
I actually tried Wargeoove a while back and man is that game unpolished. It turned me off real quickly.
And for those who are saying they had so much time to polish these ports due to the delay: that’s not how anything works! WayForward has certainly been working on other games instead. As far as they’re concerned this game was ready to ship a year ago.
I eagerly await my physical edition pre-ordered from Amazon. These are new games to me; I never had a GBA. I've heard great things about this series for decades. I'm really looking forward to finding out for myself. Plus, WayForward has a good track record (look at what they did with the Mummy tie-in).
I thought they wanted to wait until the Ukranian war was over before releasing this game. Maybe they realized the whole thing stopped being trendy in the west so it doesn't really matter anymore. Whatever.
@EVIL-C nope. Not this time.
Remakes of all time classics of the genre. Obvs an insta-buy for me.
@LikelySatan *shrug 🤷 The gameplay is still the same, and that's the main point.
I'll sort of be experiencing these games for the first time. I didn't get started with the series until Advance Wars: Dual Strike for the DS.
@smithyo I like the commander animations but I loathe the look of the units. They look really cheap.
@RainbowGazelle No. First off these are fully remade and not just remastered. A lot of work has gone into these games, it isn't just a few months of upscaling textures or something. Everything except for the core gameplay is new. Second, it's two games. So yeah, asking full price for two fully remade AW games is not a big ask.
@Cashews yeah, my thinking exactly, the game is getting a lot of love but it literally looks like one of the countless shovelware mobile games that release nowadays
@smithyo I wouldn't even say it's lots of love; it's largely been criticism from general players with vocal fans brushing it off and insisting people buy it at full price simply to support the franchise. Mark my words, this game will be one that's constantly put through sales as time goes on. I think we could start seeing these discount sales as early as June.
But yeah, you could pull a screenshot from this game and put it into one of those YouTube mobile game ads and most people wouldn't even be able to tell the difference - that's how bad this looks.
@Switch_Pro The Klonoa collection, which is also two games with a new coat of paint, is only $40. There is no justifying Reboot Camp's full-price, especially for GBA remakes, and the sales numbers are going to reflect this.
I just hope the AI is at least as good as in the original games. Wargroove was terrible to me due to how bad the AI was, noticeably worse than 20 year old game boy games.
@smithyo No it doesn’t. It clearly has more polish than mobile shovelware. Show us a game that looks like it.
@Switch_Pro Okay, but I still don't see the point. Why pay full-price for remakes of GBA games that are basically the same, and until very recently were available for a fraction of the price?
@Thief The Klonoa collection is also built directly off of the original versions instead of being full remakes, with reused geometry, music, audio (with some rough sound quality), etc. Advance Wars 1 and 2 were remade from the ground up with remixed music, voice acting, overhauled visuals, etc. It's not as cut and dry as you're making it out to be - personally, I'm more than happy to support dormant series revivals if they pique my interest. I already own Klonoa and think Advance Wars looks nice, and for technically $30 per game it's a fair deal.
@Thief Once they see low sales numbers the franchise is dead forever. And not coming back from that. Period.
It's two games fully remade. Not like Klonoa. It's not just a new coat of paint. It's 100% remade from the ground up. Why is it not worth $60 if you're into strategy games?
@Chaotic_Neutral Ports? Are you kidding? Do you call everything a port just to degrade it? Are you not aware that these games are fully remade?
@Chaotic_Neutral How is it lazy?
@Truedoogie @BTB20 they have done a very basic upscaling of the graphics and these still look like a mobile game. Actually that's a lie, mobile games look much better than this Norway.
I appreciate that the switch is under powered but these still look like they run on potatoes. Which for a full priced release is lazy.
@Chaotic_Neutral What? Upscaling? The original was 2D sprites. This game is 3D. Have you even seen the new version?
@Truedoogie yeah I've seen the trailers, it's a slight remaster and it still looks like hot garbage - apart from the cut scenes which look pretty nice.
I wouldn't have complained if it was priced alongside other indy games but this is priced as a full game - the same as Midnight Suns (I recently paid £30 for the MS ultimate edition with all DLC) or Fire Emblem on release. Is this game comparable? Not even close
@Chaotic_Neutral It's remade from the ground up. It's not upscaling. You have to be trolling at this point.
@Rooty wargroove? Poor imitation.
@RainbowGazelle Because the GBA games are not readily available and will not be up-to-date with crisp modern visuals on NSO. If you have already played them and you don't want to play them again, this is not for you. Cmon now, do I really have to state the obvious?
@Switch_Pro Okay, enjoy paying full price games you could have bought on the Wii U for a fraction of the price.
@RainbowGazelle I am not broke so I have no problem paying for a good game.
@Dr_Awkward This very website gave Wargoove 9/10. But your take is certainly your take.
Once I finish Chained Echoes, Advance Wars is next.
Intelligent Systems really nail the SRPG formula with their Fire Emblem and Advance Wars series. Only SRPGs not made by them that are comparatively great in my opinion is the Atlus made Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor series, which were fantastic. Otherwise Intelligent Systems are the kings of SRPGs in my opinion. Hyped~
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