My first experience with the Metroid series was relatively unremarkable: I just bought Super Metroid for my SNES, back when a brand new SNES game was something you could just walk into a local shop and buy.
I took its oversized box home, flipped through the glossy Player’s Guide, and noticed something odd — Samus Aran, the protagonist shown on the front cover wearing a thick red and yellow armoured suit shooting at the angry monster with a head full of teeth, was described as a “she”. And it wasn’t a one-off typo either — “she” “her” and “heroine” cropped up constantly throughout the guide’s seventy-ish pages, as if the character exploring this harsh planet and performing all of the cool actions in the illustrations really was a girl.
I checked the artwork again — thick armour, no pyramid-shaped chestplate or cleavage window. She wasn't just carrying a gun but her entire right arm was enveloped in a cannon, apparently off on a serious sci-fi horror adventure all by herself...
I was shocked. Samus Aran was a girl? Really?
No, not quite — Samus Aran was a woman.
This revelation would have hit me around the head in the summer of 1994 at the very earliest, which would have meant I was at the time an enthusiastic almost-teen girl trying to find where I belonged in a hobby that had no problem basing mainstream advertising campaigns around masturbatory innuendo, exclusionary language, and to not put too fine a point on it, great big boobies. Games were by guys for guys, and I could either stay and accept that immutable fact or go back to whatever it was girls my age were supposed to like (I still have no idea what girls are supposed to like — I think I missed that particular memo).
At this time I had to learn to be begrudgingly grateful for the likes of Chun Li and Blaze Fielding — and what was I complaining about anyway? They could both fight and neither wore a pink dress, so what more did I want?
At this time I had to learn to be begrudgingly grateful for the likes of Street Fighter II’s Chun Li and Streets of Rage’s Blaze Fielding; both characters cut from the same "fast-but-weak” cloth, both featuring “bonus” panty shots as part of their standard animation routines, both designed as something of a secondary choice in the games they were created for. It was that or nothing — and what was I complaining about anyway? They could both fight and neither wore a pink dress, so what more did I want?
There are various ways of expressing what I wanted: “Representation” and “Equality” are both handy grown-up ways of framing it, but what it really boils down to is the simplest most complicated thing around — I wanted games to be fair. I wanted to not have to make do with the only choice on offer, or to tell myself the character I’d been lumbered with was wearing the bare minimum amount of clothing possible because 'she wanted to' and that I was prudish to question whether a leather thong was standard ninja outerwear.
I wanted Samus; a solo-flying, gun-toting, bounty hunter from the future who thought nothing of spin-jumping through lava, shooting alien space pirates in the face, and considered escaping a space station filled with dead bodies just before it explodes nothing more than an attention-grabbing opener — a prelude to the real adventure.
And that’s why Samus shocked me. Because she was fair.
There may not be a lot of common ground between someone who blasts huge alien brains for a living and a young girl living in the UK, and as characters go she’s so covered up and so silent, there was barely anything to her beyond the brief snippets of backstory mentioned in the guide, but through her I could see a future for myself, for women, in a hobby I loved so very much. She was an alternative made real, and not in the thin technicality of an optional bikini-clad “warrior” portrait in a create-your-own-adventurer first-person RPG, but on the front of a SNES game by one of the biggest developer-publishers in the business.
Samus proved people like me could be something other than a castle’s princess, a hero’s prize, or a pubescent boy’s pin-up fantasy
Samus proved people like me could be something other than a castle’s princess, a hero’s prize, or a pubescent boy’s pin-up fantasy — people like me could stomp through the rain of an alien world, could have the life-force sucked out of us by strange organisms in hostile environments, could navigate through hidden vents, or run so fast enemies popped when we touched them and soft walls crumbled before our unstoppable might.
But there was more to it than being the polar opposite of fast-but-weak: Samus wasn’t out there being an in-your-face “Grrl” either; she wasn’t the embodiment of the “Girl Power” movement that began making waves in the mid-'90s, and she neither wannabe’d my lover or for me to get with her friends — she just quietly was. She was proof just existing and doing what she did best — blowing things up with missiles and fighting Ridley to the death (again) — could be enough of a reason for her to be a woman; without any excuses, explanations, or as a reluctant alternative to a “real” hero, and I took that to heart. If it was OK for Samus to be here and be her uncompromised self, then maybe it was OK for me, too.
There are of course legitimate criticisms to be levelled at Metroid, Samus, and Nintendo’s ongoing treatment of the series and its star. The player’s reward for doing well in many classic Metroid games is often to see Samus in increasing states of undress, which feels completely at odds with the self-sufficient Chozo-raised hunter for hire character they’ve just cleared the game as, and her current characterisation veers wildly between “I will wipe out the most dangerous threat to the galaxy by myself” and “I’ll do whatever Adam orders me to under any circumstances”.
We'll have to wait and see how she's portrayed in the upcoming Metroid Dread, but on balance the series has got more right than it has wrong, and Samus herself still feels like nothing less than hope to people like me; a heroine not only in her own world but in ours, too.
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Great article. Samus being female probably seems so normal to people today. It's hard to overstate how much of a shock it was finding it out way back when. The industry really was dominated by male characters at that time, with females often in support/ damsel-in-distress roles.
It's up for debate how much that has really changed but it's great seeing more female main characters in games.
Here I am still waiting for Zelda to get her due. One thing I always particularly enjoyed about Skyward sword was that for a good chunk of the game Zelda was always one step ahead of you. You were always trailing her. If Nintendo felt like being cool, instead of just releasing a simple port they could have shown us how Zelda dealt with the dungeons through perhaps a new mode or something like that. At least, I always hoped for it myself.
This is a wonderful essay. I have two daughters. They simply want games that make them feel included (it was Super Princess Peach for my older one and Miitopia for my little one). This, despite the ugly voices of an entitled few, is perfectly valid. More people playing more good games will yield good games for all of us.
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Super Metroid showed me that it’s a chuffing awesome game apart from my sausage fingers pressing select too many times xx
This is a great essay, thank you for writing it! I was gonna make a joke about it being too "progressive" but someone above me did it sincerely! So annoying. Anyway, thank you for writing this.
...and the "ethics in game journalism" crowd is arriving cue. One article saying "I felt a personal connection to Samus" was too much for some, apparently.
I enjoyed this article, was a good morning read.
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@Dezzy Progressive is what people do and have done since the beginning of humanity. It’s just a normal human activity to question and explore and want to share it.
Anyway, you reminded me to go read Polygon coz I like that site too. Cheers.
Enjoyed the article a lot. Agree with the criticism of women’s representation in games. More equality and representation all round please game devs.
Samus is female??????
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Great article.
I see some chumps in these comments are still the 10 year olds they were in 1994.
The best point, IMHO, was your discussion of the organic way Samus "was a woman". No massive virtue flags waving, no, as you said, "Grrrrl power" BS. Every time an entertainment medium interrupts the story or jarringly inserts some political/identity declaration, it's so damn gratuitous; it actually undermines their attempts to persuade.
Not that the Arrowverse is high cinema, but the production team really went overboard with the "in your face", shoe-horned politics. Incredibly amateurish. I also recall during W's tenure just about every HBO drama series, especially Six Feet Under, took shots at him, etc. in a way that completely ruined the immersion.
@The_New_Butler She literally just told you how it felt.
@Darlinfan
I have no problem reading opinions I disagree with. What I have a problem with is the entire games media being taken over by 1 single opinion (american "progressivism"), which is repeated ad-nausem.
If they actually made the effort to also host other opinions, then it would be no problem. But they don't. There isn't a single self-described conservative or libertarian in the entire games media (written media). That's not hyperbole. There are literally zero.
Star Fox and Lylat wars told me I had the right to exist too. I identify as a Japanese Red Fox.
I'm a progressive dude so don't have anything against the article or the subject, but boy is that title cringeworthy.
Like, seriously, come on.
How can you think "yeah, that's the right title for my article, it's gonna be taken seriously now"?
It just gives more ammo to the "is this Kotaku?" crowd, not a great move in my opinion.
@ATaco What a great idea. She had to have gotten through those places somehow, and tying back changes in the dungeon to how Link eventually tackles it in her footsteps would be really neat. You could have cool moments from another perspective like, "Oh wow, THAT'S why the bridge is turned the wrong way when Link first arrives!"
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@TJM Progressives (and really any "join us or you're against us" political ideologues, Right or Left) also engage in another ancient practice: deriding and excluding from discussion any disagreement or competing ideas. The Left has the majority of the media mouthpieces at present, so of course, it's more noticeable.
Eschew labels, have loyalty to ideas, not political groups or parties. It's quite liberating to admit to oneself that every major political group has some good ideas and, lo and behold, one is not required to maintain some sense of loyalty to any of them to the exclusion of others' great ideas.
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This made tears come to my eyes and I'm a dude lol This makes me so happy.
To all the people saying this article is "woke" because the writer is female and identifies with Samus, get over yourselves. I hate most things that pander just to pander, and this certainly does not.
I know it’s slightly off topic, but Ripley from Alien and Aliens is one of the greatest if not the greatest fictional heroine in my mind. An awesome and realistic portrayal of a bad-ass woman who conquers fear. It was also a big deal and very forward-looking in the 70s to have a hero like that.
@Dezzy What other opinion is there to have on this article? Silent protagonists have always existed as blank slates for the player to project themselves onto. The article argues that back in the 90s when the industry was even more male dominated Samus offered an equivalent experience for females as Link offers for males and that that was a breath of fresh air for someone who doesn't identify as a Link. What possible counter argument could there be? Where's the problem?
@Dezzy If you don't like the content don't read it. You're free to choose what you want. It is posible to make constructive criticism, but demanding the same content the way you like it is uninspiring.
Great to hear that there was at least something that made you feel like you belong. And I'm glad you kept having the fun hobby called gaming.
I learned when I played super smash bros brawl with my cousins (I’m only 15). My dad said samus was a woman but we were like “No way!” Low and behold, her final smash revealed the truth. We were shocked. Bruh we also thought that Marth was a girl so idk man
@SaveDinos I don't know if that's entirely fair, many of the rioters were certainly there for insurrectionist purposes, but some were just there to make a mess. "Insurrection" has a very specific definition and it comes down to the intent of the person in question.
But I can't argue with your sentiment. I was a lifelong Republican until Trump. He and his cronies destroyed the GOP, not just turning it into a group demanding absolute fealty (or he'll "primary" you), but they also warped the party's basic tenets or completely ignored them. It may surprise some, but many current and former Republicans are far more disgusted with these people than are many on the Left. These Trumpists are not just traitors to our country - they're also traitors to the party. /lecture off
It was a surprise that Samus was female. But for me that was the end of it. The only thing that mattered was that the game played well. It's nice to get another perspective but it's not that big of a deal
I've never really had a problem with characters like Chun-Li anymore than I have problems with characters like Zangeif or Ryu. There's nothing inherently wrong with a sexy female character with a bit of fanservice. On the other hand I agree that it's cool to see the other side of the coin and have a female character that isn't rubbing her gender in your face. My issue is when people start demanding that certain characters be censored or otherwise changed to please certain crowds. I appreciate that this article doesn't really do that and simply appreciates that we got a character that isn't terribly sexualized or diminished in some way.
The title of the article confuses me though. I feel like it's never explained in what way Super Metroid justified your right to exist. Sounds a bit over-dramatic. If that's how you actually felt then you may need to speak to a therapist. I don't mean that in an insulting way either. If that was how you felt/feel then there's definitely some underlying issues there. Your right to exist shouldn't be tied to a piece of gaming media. This is all of course assuming the title is meant to be taken literally.
That aside, we definitely have more options nowadays for games with female leads. I recently started playing Super Princess Peach and was surprised by how much fun it was. I just wish onions had better representation in video games. The giant onion boss from Cuphead doesn't count!
Absolutely wonderful article! And bang on as always
@Manjushri We don’t stan just accepting sexism tbh
@BaronMunchausen
And she nailed it
@Onion play parappa the rapper. Has chop chop master onion in it.
@NinjaWaddleDee
Nobody said anything of the kind. Your thinking ahead on things that never happened
I still remember buying this game with my mom. I had to choose between this and Mega Man X. I only had a couple of magazine articles to base my opinion on, I definitely made the right choice. Don't get me wrong, I love X, but this game really impacted me growing up, the atmosphere, the overall feeling of loneliness.
I always pictured Samus similar to Ellen Ripley in Aliens. That was my personality reference at the time. That's why it was a bit jarring to play Other M.
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Lots of heated discussions already going on I see but here I am being glad that the author of this article beat Super Metroid in less than 10 hours. Otherwise she wouldn't have learned Samus is female and she would have had no right to exist
@Manjushri Agreed 100%. I don’t think people quite get it. Like ok, I’m a man. I didn’t play Mega Man X and think to myself “ah, they acknowledged my existence.” I also didn’t play Metroid and feel like things are all of a sudden balanced, in that regard. I mean the whole point of the reveal at the end isn’t to show that she’s a woman; it’s an early example of fan service. This article came across as very weird.
Really enjoyed this. Another gaming experience that was similar for me was the female Crusader in Diablo 3. I'd looked at that game previously on a friend's recommendation, but couldn't get into it. Gave it another go when the Crusader character launched and loved it. The female and male equivalents of each character class each had their own personality (entirely from the excellent voice work), but they were truly equal. To this day, the female crusader (whose bearing is notably similar to Samus' I think) remains my favourite character in that game, even as I regularly play others for variety and to see the latest updates.
@Atticus-XI I can't argue with any of that. hear! hear! raises glass of ale
There was no "pounding into the ground", a writer wrote about their experience.
I don't see how a lack of originality is an issue. Articles ranking Zelda games aren't original, but they still happen, and they're still enjoyable to read.
There is this idea that being objective means giving all viewpoints equal attention. It doesn't. Giving equal attention to the notion that gravity doesn't exist wouldn't be objective, it would be stupid.
And what would a Libertarian viewpoint even involve within these pages anyway? Arguing that Mario's plumbing business shouldn't receive subsidies from the Mushroom Kingdom?
I never felt particulatly struck by how a game acknowledged my existence, because most of them did as a matter of course. This writer had a different experience.
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@Manjushri Don't think that was the point. When the vast majority of a medium presents a group you consider yourself a part of in an unpleasant way, it can be frustrating and disheartening. It becomes highly valuable to find something that is instead empowering and self-affirming. This article lauds Super Metroid for being that at a time when the author needed it, and I'm glad to see that experience shared.
I had heard from other kids that Samus in the original Metroid was a girl, but how cool would it have been to not know that and find out in the end of the game. Good on Nintendo for keeping it generic in the NES manual to keep it a surprise.
Can we not go a couple of days without the delightful readers of NLife trying to reignite Gamergate?
@themakyr
How is it virtue signaling?
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@PessitheMystic get a life. Seriously.
What’s part of the title is clickbait? It’s labelled as ‘soapbox’ meaning you know it’s going to be an editorial piece. It’s not as though the article headline is ‘Exciting New Metroid News’.
I swear some people enjoy being negative for the sake of it. The irony here is you’ve clicked and commented on the article, so you’re clearly a slave for this kind of thin if you keep coming back, despite the whinging.
@BloodNinja Author acknowledges this. Super Metroid's depiction of Samus isn't completely free of sexualization or 'fan service' or dubious gender characterizations, but the vast majority of the game is, and that was highly unusual at the time and well welcome.
This is a fantastic article, and I'm glad Super Metroid helped you feel better about yourself. I just hope some of the ignorant people complaining about it in the comments find something that helps them feel better about themselves too in the future, because moaning about someone finding happiness is a pretty sad place to be in.
I feel like this site will soon be called LGBQTlife or feminismlife. I’m sick of everything being twisted towards these subjects these days.
@valharian I’m guessing its more a case that a badass leading character is a female more than anything. Less about the (non) characteristic shown by Samus, and more to do with the empowerment that females can have leading roles and do things males can (again, acknowledging this is a fictional video game character)
I guess if you’re a white male, there isn’t many instances of ‘look, there’s a cool character who is the same sex/race/religion as me! Neat’ that you can compare this to, as it’s usually the majority in Western civilisation that the cool characters are portrayed by people who look like you.
Me: How posting my opinion on Nintendolife showed I matter.
**NL mods delete my comment
Me: How getting my comment deleted on Nintendolife showed me I do not matter and should end my existence.
See how weird and silly all of that sounds?
Can we talk about games without injecting politics into it? Its damn near 4th of July. Long weekend, bbqs, beer, and friends galore. Wheres the article about “GREAT PARTY GAMES DURING LONG WEEKEND”? Thats probably what your readers are looking for navigating a vg website about nintendo games.
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Really good article! Highly recommend checking out the retranslation of Other M, it was far different in the original from what it was localized to. Doesn't save the game but it helps mitigate the character assassination that Other M was.
@ACuriousTanuki I don’t think it was unusual at the time. The kids I went to school with were really chill about it when we all started to slowly learn about Samus being a woman. Sure, you meet people NOW that are blown away by it because their heads are stuck in fantasy. Having the correct thing you identify with is purely a modern demand some gamers put on games companies. It was funny, too. Many of the kids I grew up with thought playing games were only for “stupid boys,” so girls would make fun of us for playing. Now, years later, girls feel empowered when they see a female in a game. Hilarious little catch 22, there. For those of us who enjoy the game for what it is, we don’t care if the playable character is a woman, man, or strange animal. If the game isn’t fun, who cares. Super Metroid happens to be fun, so the shape of the digitized sprites is a moot point.
@Zuljaras The only thing wrong there is being in a position where that affirmation is necessary. Games are a medium for finding affirmation the same as any other literary or visual art.
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An interesting item if one actually reads the article... it overtly states that the strength of Samus as a character is that she eschews the tedious, woke, "grrl power" advocacy that defines iNcluSiVeNess in many media. Some of the people who hate the article are rejecting a perspective that matches their own.
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@HamatoYoshi
This article is about someone's experience with a game.
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@HamatoYoshi ‘ some tenuous link to a game from years back.’.
Apart from the fact Metroid is very much in the public eye. Who the hell are YOU to tell the staff here what they should and shouldn’t be writing about?
Kate - keep doing you, and keep up the great work. Ignore these sad little children who think that you’re here to write ONLY about what they want to read.
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@AndyC_1101 let’s go with the “right to exist” part. I fail to see how 16-bit pixel art gave anyone the right to exist, but that’s my ‘soapbox’ take on it if you will.
Also, you clearly have a chip on your shoulder more than I do. Go get another one of your comments removed for being ‘unconstructive’ please.
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@Darlinfan
I wasn't extrapolating anything. They've published 3 articles of this type in the last week, despite almost never going into this type of material for the last decade that I've been reading this site. That's not extrapolation, that's a clear pattern emerging, so I thought it was worth voicing my displeasure.
Obviously they can publish whatever they like, that's just stating the obvious. But if this site just becomes another carbon copy of all the other games media sites who've been parrotting this exact same set of opinions (I'm talking about the obsessive focus on race and sex/gender that dominates american progressivism, which I happen to think has an extremely negative effect on the world), then why would I bother continuing to read this site? I can already get that stuff elsewhere. There are literally a dozen mainstream sites already completely dedicated to this exact type of article.
@nessisonett Notice how these types of discussions only seem to happen during certain types of articles? This sort of thing doesn’t get any mention in the review for Mario Odyssey. If what you were saying were true, those comments would being permeating the site and the forums. They only seem to pop up during the appropriate topic matter.
@HamatoYoshi Hahaha. The irony of saying ‘ don’t like others views and opinions that don’t fit in with your perfect world.’ when you’ve literally come to this article complaining because the opinions don’t fit in with what you want to see.
Couldn’t make it up!
@Muddy_4_Ever
"she eschews the tedious, woke, "grrl power" advocacy that defines iNcluSiVeNess in many media"
....by saying a videogame character gave her the "right to exist"....
@Dezzy It's weird to me that people can think that positive female representation in video games is an issue that we need to take sides over. Does this mean that I need to educate myself? Where can I find a contrary opinion expressed in a reasonable way?
@PessitheMystic the article literally explains what the character meant to Kate, as an out of place teen who was into games with no real role models in the medium to look up to.
Did you read the article or skim through it?!
@AndyC_1101 Actually I'm Latin and I can perfectly admire characters like captain america and Wonder Woman and say "look how brave he/she is, I want to be like him/her". Don't care if I have dark skin and he is white. What matter are virtues not superficial traits like skin or gender.
Super Metroid is such a masterpiece. The graphics, the music, the challenge, the length, the enemies, the weapons... just absolutely incredible. I say that knowing there are flaws in the game, such as the wall jump and the space jumping in general. Even with those, I still think this game is close to perfection. Whenever I turn on my Super NES mini or play the SNES games on Switch Online, I continue to be blown away at how much that console has not aged at all. While the Switch is now my favorite console of all time, the SNES is second, and for good reason.
Can we stop about whether "right to exist" is the right expression, or it's too strong or too sentimental or whatever? It's annoying to pretend you get the meaning of the article but you can't pass up on the details. Grow up. See the forest, not the trees.
@AndyC_1101 as others have said, requiring a video game to your “right to exist” is worrying. I couldn’t care less about the content of the article at this stage.
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@valharian very valid point. Maybe in Kates instance it resonated with her differently. Kind of like how black people felt empowered when Black Panther was brought to the big screen…
Not saying you’re wrong in thinking the way you do, as you absolutely aren’t, but I guess people ‘attach’ themselves to fictional characters differently. That’s all!
I think it's a good article. It'd be pretty alienating to love gaming but at the same time have almost every game feature characters of the opposite sex in powerful positions and very few characters of the same sex of the player.
And when they do they may be in a weak role(damsel) or designed to be sexy at all times. I think for a kid or teen you might feel that yeah, maybe the devs don't expect or care about female players. Which in early Internet days would be pretty isolating.
So to have a powerful character like Samus running around in power armour, blasting aliens, etc. Would, in fact, be a big deal.
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@kingbk I still casually speed run Super Metroid to this day. It’s only flaw is that the item collection jingle is a little long, but other than that I agree with you in its perfection.
@HamatoYoshi
"I feel like this site will soon be called LGBQTlife or feminismlife. I’m sick of everything being twisted towards these subjects these days"
These are the most recent Nintendo Life articles that I see on my phone:
1) Smash fan creates Shantae Mii Fighter Costume With Custom Lighthouse Stage.
2) this article
3) What are you playing this weekend?
4) There's Supposedly A New Donkey Kong Animation in Development.
5) Nintendo UK Celebrates Summer With A 30-Day Switch Accessory Competition.
6) BioWare Had Plans For A First-Person Mass Effect Game On Nintendo DS.
7) DOOM Eternal: The Ancient Gods- Part Two Expected To Arrive On Switch "Later This Year".
8) NeatherRealm Ends DLC Support For Mortal Kombat 11 To Focus On "Next Project"
9) 13 Exciting New Games Coming to Nintendo Switch in July
10) Here's How Nintendo Is Improving Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Over The Wii Original.
11) Even Professional Smash Bros. Players Are Impressed By The Level 9 Kazuya CPU.
12) Reto Handheld Face-Off- Anberic R351 Vs Retroid Pocket 2.
13) 16mm Film From Nintendo's 1974 Wild Gunman Arcade Cabinet Has Been Found.
14) Teenager Hits $1.7 Million In Revenue During Pandemic Reselling Pokemon Cards, Games Consoles And More.
15) Capcom Outlines Plans For Monster Hunter Stories 2 Post-Launch Content.
It would seem that it is you that is being rather precious.
@AndyC_1101 This article is not written by Kate but by Kerry Brunskill. Please don't accuse others of skimming through the article if you did not even read the author's name ...
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@themakyr I'm part of the NL community and I don't endorse this! How arrogant to sign off a reply with 'NL community', like you speak for all of us.
I loved the article. I'm not sure why everyone is saying it was written by Kate, though, as it was written by Kerry.
@AndyC_1101 as a black person, I can say thats bs. I didnt feel empowered because a white guy created a fictional black character who fought evil in a make believe Africa. Your argument is silly and makes no sense. If you look to a fictional character to empower you or make you feel as if you “belong”, you should consult a physician and other professional help. I feel empowered by black people that came before me like MLK, Malcolm X, my father, my mother, my grandparents, my great grandpa who fought in the war, Dr Welsing, Judge Joe Brown, Tariq Nasheed; you know…REAL people who currently do REAL things to empower people that look like me. I dont consult internet webpage drivel to feel inspired.
@Atticus-XI @Menardi You made literally the only reasonable comments on this entire site.
Samus removes her helmet to reveal that it was Wario the whole time! Wah!
@TheBigK good one.
The fact that all of you go into such an absolute temper tantrum just from a single editorial about this, which isn't even saying anything controversial, is just such a pain in the ass. It's just getting so ridiculous how people are becoming more and more hypersensitive to this. "OH MY GOD A FEMALE CHARACTER STOP SHOVING YOUR AGENDA DOWN MY THROAT!!!"
@Franklin Kotaku fell through a similar pitfall, though. Start to sprinkle in the controversial articles, then after the audience has been tested enough, make it a normal part of the site. Anybody who has even vaguely been paying attention to media websites will notice that trend in content. It’s not always happening from agendas, but because these niche websites aren’t finding many things to write about, because gaming news is going through an extremely slow point.
The site managers know what they’re doing. Gaming article comments sections have an abysmal amount of people talking about the article content. Some of the articles in the list you mentioned are barely reaching 30 comments. But the “racy” articles have hundreds of comments. It seems people like talking about the controversial stuff more than video games!
I liked Samus because she was a badass.
And I still like her for being a badass.
I always used Chun Li because of her powerful lightning kicks. I never felt she was weak ever .. her hard kicks and punchs are strong.. and spinning bird kick is strong .. shes very well balanced
Good article. Samus being a woman is often talked about as important, so it is good to hear it did matter to people, even back then. It's cool that videogames can make people feel represented, empowered or included while also being really fun games with classic gameplay. It doesn't always take a complicated rich story to add additional meaning to something.
@Imerion Actually, that’s a great point, and yet another strength of Super Metroids gameplay.
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@BloodNinja
What do you find controversial about it?
Do you think controversial is necessarily a negative?
@BreathingMiit
I wasn't objecting to that actual argument (at least not for a 1994 game, although I might object if someone made that argument in 2021). I was objecting to the fact that this exact opinion piece has been written about a million times in the last decade. It's become obnoxious how often you have to hear people whining on about their gender/race/sexual preference. It's just nice to have some places where that isn't happening, that's all. And given that it didn't use to happen on this site, it is a noticeable change.
@jedisquidward Can’t wait for the next article about an empowering male character, then.
@Darlinfan I usually agree with what you say however in this instance you are coming over as aggressive and are getting personal for someone expressing an opinion - which they have a right to, don't they? Dial it back a bit, please. I must say that this article shows the same trend as the previous ones - anybody questioning the article's relevance is immediately put in the 'them' camp and everyone - even Nintendolife Staff - start belittling them and hurling insults. I think this kind of stuff is a little bit outside Nintendolife's grasp, they should keep things light, like they used to do, or step it up and just lock comments immediately because - looking at the sheer amount of banned users in this thread - they seem incapable of controlling what they have set in motion.
I think most male gamers today accept female heroines when they are treated like it isn't a big deal. It's when they have to rub it in and constantly remind you throughout the game that "hey look, I'm a girl doing guy stuff! We are just as strong!" Where it gets annoying and is desperately pathetic sounding. But there are many great female lead games that don't: Metroid series (I'm pretending Other M story doesn't exist), Tomb Raider Reboot trilogy, Beyond Good & Evil, Perfect Dark, Horizon series, Hellblade. These are superb games, because they just act real and aren't reminding you they are women constantly. These are all well received generally, and show that if you write good stories, design great gameplay, and don't obnoxiously rub it in, most gamers don't care what gender/race/orientation the protagonist is.
I remember it being the stuff of legend that Samus, the kick-ass bounty hunter from the Metroid games, turned out to be female back in the day. Awesome stuff. Great article I enjoyed reading that, thank you Kerry.
@Dezzy
Do you have to hear (sic) it though?
Let the market decide, don't read it if you don't want to.
Or would you prefer to engage in cancel culture?
I feel like that part with the "masturbatory", "exclusionary" ads is a bit of a stretch, judging from the 90's ads that I've seen.
For ages I’ve been thinking about a great modern redesign of Samus, moving away from her blonde ponytail model look (which feels a little less progressive since the 80’s) , and in my mind I’d love her to be based on Kristen Stewart in Underwater with her peroxide buzz cut. Her whole vibe in that film with the huge diving exosuits made me think of Metroid.
@Trmn8r I understand where they're coming from. Surely for female gamers in the early 90's like Kerry, gaming would be similar to Billy Elliott doing ballet.
Surely it'd be tougher to feel like you don't belong in your own hobby, than it is to know that someone's writing an article saying how great it is that there's female characters in gaming.
@Franklin I don’t think controversial topics are always a negative. Depends on their presentation, and more importantly, their motive. It’s less of a “what I think” and more of a “what I observe.” If the conversation wasn’t controversial, the article wouldn’t already be over 100 comments of dissenting opinions. The other one from the other day is at over 700 comments. Meanwhile, gaming news articles have 30-40 comments, and a couple only have 2-8 comments. So it’s less about my opinion of the matter, and more about what I’m just being shown.
@Majorasblaze I’ve always had a problem with her hair. How does that fit into a space helmet?! But, it’s video game logic, and the truth is they need to add some flashiness in there, regardless of logic.
@georgesdandre
Masculinity is now toxic these days, huh?
@Franklin
No I'm not in favor of cancelling anyone. The market obviously does decide over the long term, which is why so many previously popular sites (e.g Gamespot, Gamesradar) have almost no audience at this point. They lost them all to youtubers (who, coincidentally, have a much broader range of political opinions).
In this case though, I actually DID have to read it, because it wasn't clear what the article was about from the title alone, so I didn't know until I'd read it.
We need to put ourselves back in the mindset of the 90's before we fly off the handle here. If you were a girl and you were into video games, it was weird. Sure there were obviously some girls that played games but it was definitely not normal for a girl to outwardly express interest in it. The writer is clearly just recounting how the experience back then was like for them. It's ok to get attached to a character based on race or gender. It's fine. You don't have to be this enlightened super being spouting "I don't see gender, only gameplay."
As a Hispanic person (we still don't have as much representation in games now that I think about it) it's very cool to see protagonists that can at least speak Spanish like Just Cause's Rico Rodriguez (even though he's more Italian than Mexican). It's cool to see Mexico represented in Red Dead Redemption. Hearing the villagers of Resident Evil 4 shout at you in Spanish added just a bit extra for me. It's just not an experience that can easily be related to if you're not willing to step into someone's shoes.
Do I NEED Spanish speaking protagonists? Do I NEED to see my home country represented in a video game? No, of course not. I'll happily play any game and love any character as long as the setting is nice enough and the writing is good...but there's always just something a bit extra to see your home country in a game. To see the culture that you love on display for others to admire. To see strong characters with backgrounds that you can actually relate to have their time to shine. If you have to ask how you can understand these feelings...you never will.
On TV and in movies girls and women are shown as smart, hard working and caring while men are shown as incompetent, lazy and selfish.
@Dr_Lugae I can see it being more of a problem in the early 90s, and I don't disagree with that. Especially, with how Japanese games handled and still often continue to handle female characters. And western games did it too. I'm talking about how today, I think we are really in a better place with this and as long as female leads are treated like it's not a big deal that they are female, it is proven to be received well. Regardless, of if it is a big deal historically. It's good to recognize that. But it can detract from it to continually force recognition of it within its own game. At some point, if you want to normalize different forms of diversity, you should probably act like it's normal.
@BloodNinja
So for a topic to be controversial, it only needs dissenting opinions?
I think that's probably correct.
Is uniformity of opinion desirable?
The idea that the earth is over 4.5 billion years old is not controversial to many people. But to a significant amount it is.
So I don't think we can judge the worthiness of a controversy by its reaction.
@ATaco It doesn’t take a “super being” to look further past a persons appearance. Just mindful understanding of humanity. Many of us do that work because we don’t want to be caught up in the constant judgement of others based on their appearances. It’s nice to train the mind to look past that stuff. Daily interaction becomes easier, because you aren’t already making your mind up about a person because they look a certain way to you.
@Dezzy
The content was quite clear to me from the headline to be honest. Perhaps I should get a gold sticker.
But of course you don't have to verify the contents of any article on this site.
@SaveDinos What “insurrectionist party”? I’ve been reliably informed that overthrowing the US government would be impossible unless you have nukes and F16 jets. A couple of unarmed clowns rioting at the capitol for a couple hours (and causing far less carnage than the “fiery but mostly peaceful” protests endorsed by the current vp) does not an insurrectionist party make.
@BloodNinja this is the most accurate and best comment you’ve ever written
@themakyr @themakyr while that might be true in YOUR case, it doesn’t mean it’s not the instance in ALL cases.
Plenty of black kids looked up to the Black Panther character, in the same way that the character of Samus resonated with Kerry in this article.
Y’know - different people take representation of ‘their’ people in the media in different ways, right?
So to say the original comment was bs was, in fact, bs on YOUR part to a large degree, despite how you personally feel about fictional characters giving under represented members of society a reason to feel empowered.
@HamatoYoshi I'm a freelancer, I'm not under any obligation to say anything about other articles on the site. I could have stayed away and kept quiet if I wanted to, but I chose to support the article. The reality is that whether you like to admit it or not, people don't just come to this site "for games", Nintendo Life has been publishing personal pieces for a long time too. I wrote one here three years ago about how getting an NES for Christmas changed my life (https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/12/feature_how_one_nintendo_christmas_shaped_the_rest_of_my_life). Funnily enough, though, nobody in the comments of that one was moaning about Nintendo Life posting an article about someone talking about what gaming meant to them as a child. Almost as if there's more to this one, and when people say "we don't come here for personal stories" that's not really what they mean but they're not brave enough to say it.
@BloodNinja Maybe...but it just makes you sound like a robot. I'm not sure that's much better. I don't already make up my mind based upon what someone looks like but it's nice to respect their culture and background customs and traditions if you know where they come from. 🤔
@Franklin I despise uniformity of opinion. Through reasonable disagreement, we give ourselves the ability to learn about things outside ourselves. All this head-nodding makes me wonder if people are actually thinking with their own thoughts. I’m fairly certain we can gauge a topics worthiness by its reaction; besides the content of the material, what else do we have to go off of?
@BloodNinja I sometimes feel like a bad person because I’m completely fed up of the LGBT movement being pushed onto us in the media. That, and the ‘taking a knee’ movement still used in football (or soccer, depending on where you are) to ‘take a fight’ against discrimination.
The way I see it, if someone is stupid enough to hate an individual due to their skin colour, religion, or sexual orientation, then no amount of exposure in the mainstream media is going to change that. Putting up a pride flag everywhere and seeing constant LGBT articles isn’t going to stop a homophobic person from being homophobic, so I personally don’t know what purpose the mainstream pandering is meant to achieve.
If you’re a decent human being, you accept others because they’re fellow human beings.
@ATaco The idea I shared with you is an old Taoist and Buddhist philosophy. Taking a deeper look at oneself through meditation (for example) so that you can train your mind to be neutral for the purpose of resisting judgement isn’t robotic. It takes a deep look at humanity to understand that we are more than our skin and place of birth.
@Darlinfan
No, it's not that big a problem for a single site. It's the fact that it's the only political opinion that's ever pushed by any games media site, that's the issue.
Echo chambers and ideological orthodoxies are negative, pretty much everywhere you find them. They make the people inside them stupider, and more hostile to any alternative view.
Samus is a suit of armor. The only time she's female is when she's out of the armor.
As for you... Be what you want to be.
@scully1888 Extremely well put. Personally feel there’s a balance between allowing people to have their voice, and making it such a big thing that it appears everywhere (see comment above about the constant pushing of LGBT in mainstream media lately)
We should all be decent human beings, but I feel no amount of exposure in the media will eradicate mindless, idiotic racism and sexism.
On the contrary, seeing the constant agenda of LGBT and the ‘take a knee’ movement is making me quite angry. I accept all human beings for who they are, but the constant ‘in your face-ness’ of these movements is getting a bit tiring.
I fully accept that the above makes me sound unaccepting as well…
@BloodNinja
We can possibly gauge the topic's worthiness, but not whether an opinion should be considered controversial.
There are for example a significant amount of creationists that could create a 'controversy' through their reaction.
@BloodNinja I mean, that's cool and all but I'm no monk. I'm just a dude that plays video games and likes to see people speak my native tongue and see my home country on display. If you're really capable of doing that then I think that's pretty impressive but you're probably asking too much of most people.
@Generic_Username
"If you want to protest, do it PEACEFULLY, and within THE LAW!"
*Soccer players take a knee
"Don't bring POLITICS into soccer!"
How is LGBT agenda always in your face?
Do you think straight culture is always in the face of gay people?
Which would you think is the worst thing being 'in your face', someone silently bending a knee, or racial injustice?
@Dezzy If a market for that kind of thing existed, then there would be a service to fill the demand.
@Generic_Username I share your feelings of being fed up, sometimes, and it’s normal to feel that way. You’re not bad for feeling that, either. It seems everyone wants accommodation, and asking for it is ok as long as you are not a straight white male. I feel that men, and in particular white men, are being held down when it comes to social issues. Speaking up is frowned upon. Just venting out of my head lol
@Franklin I think with the take a knee movement in football is that it isn’t achieving anything. It’s now to the point where it feels like just a token gesture. There’s been no other actions beside this, and players are still getting racially abused on Twitter, so it’s clearly not working..
I’m not sure how you’re supposed to change a bigots train of thought, but I don’t think the above is the right way! It’s not really educating those spiteful enough in society to be abusive to others.
@scully1888 I do only come to this site 'for games', thanks - it's called Nintendolife for a reason, you know? Personally I could do without articles like this, Brie Larson ones etc etc, as it just sets people against each other and shows how unwilling - or incapable - the staff are at dealing with the differing opinions they should know these kind of articles will generate.
@ATaco Yeah I think empathy is important. Not everyone's perspective is going to be the same that you can just look past race, sex, gender, religion or skin colour.
Especially if what they're talking about or concerned about involves it. I think it needs to be considered even if ultimately you end up disagreeing with whatever they were saying, otherwise you might entirely miss why something might be particularly important to them when it isn't to you.
@scully1888 but this article is using the experience of playing a game as a narrative to their gender and sexual politics. These articles are getting much more common in journalism across every subject and they are often completely made up…..the writer taking an event from their past and using it as a basis for an article for what’s going on in their lives right now. Example, I could be a pilot and write a retrospective article about Pilotwings and say it changed my life and made me want to be a pilot. It’s complete nonsense but it try’s to pull at peoples heart strings and gain emotion from the reader.
It’s just poor, lazy journalism written to fuel the writers own agenda.
@Generic_Username While the general "everyone should be treated fairly" mindset is a positive one, I don't agree with your suggestion that there's an "agenda" or that anything's being "pushed onto" people in the media. It's very easy to be a straight white male and say "hey, everyone should be treated the same" and feel like you've done your bit but that won't ever make a difference.
At the end of the day there are plenty of people – be that people of certain genders, ethnicities, sexual orientation etc – who are discriminated against, and people and organisations are fighting against that discrimination for a number of reasons: partly to show these people that they aren't alone and they have support in society, and partly to put pressure on those who disagree, and make it clear to them that discrimination is wrong.
If you feel like it's an "agenda" and it's being "pushed on" you then I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm sure the inconvenience of watching some footballers kneel for five seconds or reading an article about Metroid pales in comparison to the abuse some people receive on a regular basis. That's why there's an upsurge in support.
@Generic_Username
There's some credence to that view, but why does it bother you that it's happening?
I see my soccer team take the knee. I'm for it. It's over quickly.
I also see my soccer team sing God Save the Queen. I'm an atheist. What am I going to do, complain that God is being pushed in my face and get under the covers and sob? It is also over quickly.
@BloodNinja Amen. End of the day, we should accept others for who they are.
I think my issue is that if you’re a decent human being, you don’t need telling that. And if you’re not, then none of these movements will make one iota of difference on how you feel.
Fully accept anyone who’s part of the LGBT+ community, BUT also don’t appreciate seeing the flag, and hearing about the movement every single day. We get it - your sexual orientation is ‘different’ from the decades old heterosexual point of view.
It doesn’t mean we need to hear about it all the time!
@ATaco Not at all! It doesn’t take a lot, just a little understanding. I’m literally the furthest thing from a monk, doesn’t mean we can’t learn a little bit about living like one.
The decision to make samus a women, like many decisions in Metroid, came from the movie Alien. And just like Alien, the sexual identity of Samus works well because of how organic it works. Yes, she's a woman, but neither story makes it a big deal. She's the person who can get the job done, she just happens to be a woman.
I'm reminded of characters like furiosa from Mad Max or the bride from Kill Bill. They're similar to Ripley and Samus but their female identity plays a bigger role in the plot. However, all four are handled the same way from a narrative stand point, none feel compelled to scream about being a woman or constantly beat the message into our heads.
We need more female representation like these characters in entertainment or at the very least we need to encourage writers to develope some stroke of nuance and subtlety to their craft.
@Lordplops "I do only come to this site 'for games', thanks - it's called Nintendolife for a reason, you know?"
Yes, I do know it's called that for a reason. That's why it's called Nintendo Life and not Nintendo Games. Someone literally wrote an article about how NINTENDO affected their LIFE, so what's the problem?
@Franklin Think it’s more the fact that it’s constantly being forced down our throats.
As mentioned above, I don’t know what good these movements are doing - if you’re a decent human being, you accept others for who they are.
If you’re not, seeing the pride flag and seeing players take the knee isn’t going to change your opinion.
Might be ignorant but I don’t ‘get’ it or what it’s supposed to change.
I appreciate this article. I do think it's a shame they had to have the "reward" of Samus undressing for doing well on the game. A simple face reveal would have sufficed.
I also enjoy articles like this (and the recent LGBT article) because it brings out the haters who I can then ignore, improving my NL experience.
@scully1888 Going to disagree, but constructively - not here to ‘argue’ as I haven’t got the energy for it!
Going to sound like a broken record, but taking the taking a knee movement as an example - players are still getting racially abused online, so I’m genuinely not sure what the movement is achieving. Feel more action and education is needed than what I see as a now token gesture before games.
Even certain black players have stopped taking the knee as they feel the message has been lost. Personally don’t feel there’s a right or wrong here - you’ll believe what you believe and I’ll believe what I believe - but feel it’s now a wasted gesture.
More action is needed if we want to educate spiteful individuals.
@Generic_Username
"it’s constantly being forced down our throats."
You keep saying this, but what does that even mean?
Regarding my above example, I don't feel God is constantly forced down my throat (though if he exists, he is there, as he's omnipresent)
Taking the knee takes a minute at most.
@Generic_Username I agree. I rarely talk about my sexuality, gender, background...because most people don’t actually care, want, or need to know about it. Really I feel stuff like that should be done on an inter-personal basis, instead of advertised on every news site possible!
@Generic_Username But how can that action be taken if you're then going to complain that there's an "agenda" that's "constantly being forced down our throats"?
Forgive me for saying so, but it comes across like you want some sort of nondescript 'action' to be taken, as long as it happens quietly so you don't have to hear about it. That you can say "there's a problem with discrimination here" then wash your hands of that and complain any time someone tries to publicly do something about it. That isn't really how it works: if things are going to change the message needs to be spread wider, not buried privately.
@Gwynbleidd
There's some validity to the view that it is ineffective, and in some soccer players hypocritical.
But they're doing it because they are being racially abused online.
@scully1888 As long as people act that they are different from others based on sexuality, gender, race there will be division and unpleasant encounters.
A race will not bring more to the table (black, white etc).
A sexual preference is not making you a better person and it never will.
The whole identifying with something is only making the lives of people worse.
Good read!
I don’t see what problem people would have with this article, other than ‘i’m a testosteron bomb and I do not need this female stuff on my website.’
@Franklin What I mean is that it’s a constant. It’s here each and every day.
Taking the knee doesn’t work, as black players are still getting racially abused. If you’re a hateful human being who thinks racism is acceptable, I don’t think seeing players taking the knee is going to make any difference to how you think.
As for the LGBT movement, similar sentiments. It’s a shame that people are discriminated against for who they are, but seeing the LGBT flag everywhere is a bit much in my opinion.
Maybe because I’m a heterosexual white male I don’t get it fully, but always been of the opinion to respect and treat others equally. I almost feel that because there’s so much emphasis on the fact that they belong to a ‘different’ group it draws a bigger divide between us and them instead of what should be a case of treat each other the same.
@scully1888
The problem with this kind of argument is that it completely ignores how often that "simply helping the marginalized", often does lead to discrimination itself.
Several policies in the US were recently struck down by federal judges because they literally discriminated against white people and men. So the entire basis of that argument immediately collapses.
As a bog-standard whitestraightcismale (ooft), I enjoyed reading this article. It's a viewpoint I absolutely can't relate to, natch, since I've had the human main characters for most games I've played straight in my wheelhouse. That's what makes it interesting: to learn about the experiences of others that I wouldn't have got right myself. I've always considered Chun-Li, for example, to be one of the better female characters in early gaming, so that was a bit of a wake-up call (granted I've never played a Street Fighter).
It's also really heartening to see Nintendo Life (which still has a majority-male staff turnout) happy to post these stories from different experiences, along with articles such as Kate's LGBTGIA+ games list from a few days ago. It would be great to read something similar from the point of view of a black journalist, say, given that non-Asian non-white minority representation appears to have been historically lousy in Japanese games, including Nintendo's. Whether the staff want to moderate the comments on such an article is of course another matter...
@Generic_Username @Franklin Taking the knee isn’t for honoring anybody; it’s to shame people who question it or refuse to do it. “Why aren’t you taking a knee? Don’t you care about these issues?” It’s designed to make people regarding a certain agenda look bad. Yes, I care about these issues. The angle and trajectory of my knee doesn’t magically fix anything. Sounds like the start to a funny women’s self defense joke though.
Great article, shame about some of the comments. I’ve got a long haul flight coming up and I’ll be playing Super Metroid again to pass the time. 🏳️🌈
@Generic_Username
You watch a football game every day?
@BloodNinja
Sitting at the front of the bus didn't 'magically fix' anything either.
@BloodNinja Agreed. If society wanted to tackle discrimination, they’d take serious actions into doing so. Education on the issues should take precedence over token gestures.
As for the LGBT+ movement - all the articles I’ve seen online only seem to stress that a lot of these people are ‘different’, which does nothing in making ignorant individuals see them as human beings instead of rainbow clothed wearing people who don’t identify themselves as any particular gender or anything like that.
Personally feel if you want to remove the stigma, then more needs to be done to show that they’re normal human beings, leading normal lives, who’s lives aren’t defined by their sexuality or who they identify as.
@Gwynbleidd
I don't know what your frame of reference is, but soccer players in the UK are routinely racially abused online, and it is very well documented.
@Franklin I watch football enough to know that the take a knee movement is still being used regularly, and that black players are still being racially abused online.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make but putting it bluntly - the take a knee movement isn’t working. Certain black players have stopped doing it as they see it as a token gesture. It’s achieving nothing.
If society wants to combat racism, then more needs to be done than taking a knee before a game of football and to see the ‘Kick it out’ slogan, which is quintessentially a slogan that can be reinterpreted as ‘Stop being racist!’.
This idea that politics can't intrude into leisure topics is asinine anyway.
'Politics' encompasses almost everything, and vice versa.
It reminds me of when people say they don't like history. History touches upon almost every subject, so to me it's like saying you don't like anything.
Nice article and I’m still to this day blown away by how powerful the subtlety of Metroid is.
I could do without the “right to exist” in the headline. It seems needlessly dramatic to me, and is probably responsible for all the negative comments from people who didn’t bother to read the rest.
@scully1888 as I said, and as your immature, combative comment proves, if the site isn't capable of dealing with these kinds of comments, it shouldn't host these kinds of articles. Penny dropped yet?
@Franklin You’re comparing the often life-threatening work of Rosa Parks to the simple act of placing ones knee on the ground during a ball game. Those two actions are not even in the same context.
@Generic_Username Go for it then. Do something about it. Because at the moment all I see is you saying "something should be done about this" while at the same time complaining that people are trying to do something by speaking out about it and making sure the narrative doesn't run out of steam.
It feels like you're saying "this is a problem, but it's not MY problem so I don't want to know about it".
@Franklin No need to try and be smart. My comments were two-fold, being racism and sexism in society. There are stories on the LGBT movement daily, hence the ‘daily’ part of my comment above.
A wonderful read, thanks for the post Kerry. More articles like this please NintendoLife!!
So much I could say to this whole, article, I love it. I remember exactly when I first learned Samus was a woman. I was sitting in my brother's room, playing SSB64 with him. (a rarity, as I was his annoying little sister) I picked Samus to play as, and I believe I said something like "I like Samus. He's cool." And my brother said "Samus is a girl, actually." And even as a vaguely seven-year-old, that felt pretty cool. Samus was cool, man. Even as young as I was, I knew that she was unique in her medium.
Of course the problem is that when Samus has her armor on, she's a badass. Strong, stoic, serious. But then as soon as she takes off her helmet, Nintendo has to be like "Oh crap, right, she's a FEMALE" and mucks it all up.
@The_New_Butler "It feels unlikely that a child of 11 or 12 would have been that aware of the design choices for female characters that accentuated certain female attributes or were used to titillate older male players."
I'm a cisgender woman. I started to notice these things before I turned 10. Sex is everywhere in our society, especially in pop culture and advertising.
Also, puberty tends to begin around 11 or 12. That also tends to be when girls experience their first sexual harassment. The girls you think are too innocent to recognize sexualization are instead getting a crash course in it.
@Generic_Username
Whether it works or doesn't is an irrelevancy.
Your claim is that it's being forced down your throat, when in reality, upon further questioning, it's not even a minor inconvenience.
@Generic_Username That’s literally the answer, but nobody wants to do it. Identifying as a group is part of the problem; the answer is to position yourself to flourish as an individual. Pandering to groups is even worse, and leads to favoritism instead of peaceful solutions.
@Lordplops I only address people with the same level of decency they choose to treat me with. The article is an entirely positive one, and comments like yours are entirely negative. The issue isn't "if the site can't handle these comments, it shouldn't run these stories", because that's going down a disingenuous "you can't silence us" route while at the same time trying to silence the articles themselves. The article isn't the problem, so it doesn't need to be fixed in any way. The problem is how some people choose to react to it.
@BloodNinja
I'm not comparing the 2 examples, I'm applying your logic to both.
Just because a simple action doesn't have an immediate effect, does not mean that it is necessarily without merit.
@scully1888 i don’t have the power to do anything about it. It needs to be taken seriously by those higher up. It isn’t being taken seriously, thus essentially meaning the issues are not being taken seriously.
Take the George Floyd matter as an example. Days of rioting, protests, and for what? No discussions or actions were taken ultimately. The officer was charged, but you know as well as I do, that it’s going to happen again in the future.
As always, it’s a cycle of disastrous even, followed by fallout, followed by a period of the fallout to quieten down, followed by nothing, leading to being in the same position as you started off in.
@Generic_Username @scully1888 “Education on the matter should take precedence over token gestures.” Sounds like the start to a solution, if you ask me. We are only on a chat forum, so we are limited to talking about the matter. If we were to do something, it would be in our private lives, away from this forum.
@BloodNinja Completely and utterly agree. Treating groups different is WHY there’s a divide. There seems to be a celebration of why these people are different, which does NOTHING for those who hate on these individuals to start with.
Until there’s a concentrated effort made to show why we’re similar and what we have in common as human beings, the problems will always exist.
@Franklin Then you are incorrectly applying the logic, and I can’t help you with that.
@The_Top_Loader Chun Li has always had lower vitality than her male counterparts (as do most of the female cast) but has been top tier in most Street Fighter games regardless.
@BloodNinja If the fallout from the George Floyd tragedy is to be taken as an example, those higher up have no time in truly dealing with the matter.
They pretend they care, and that ‘lessons will be learned’ but actions speak louder than words. Once the fallout settles, we ultimately see that nothing changes.
@Generic_Username THANK YOU.
I teach that principle in my martial arts classes. “Celebrate similarities, not differences.” It’s easy to spot the difference, but people use those differences to cover up our similarities. No matter how we identify, we ALL want to feel love, be happy, and enjoy life. How we get to that happiness should be protected if it’s non-violent, and focusing on how we do it should be left to the individuals decision. Focusing on groups actually hurts the individual!
@Generic_Username Well put and something I’m trying to wrap my head around. Different groups will find themselves in different circumstances, but the underlying emotions are universally human.
There’s been a market created for believing that certain emotions and understandings are exclusive to certain people, and it’s tearing us all apart.
@Generic_Username
Hmm, people higher up haven't taken it seriously for a long time, and elections haven't seemed to changed things in that time, I wonder if people could peacefully protest?
And I have to wonder if your idea of education wouldn't be seen by many as 'forcing the issue down our throats'.
@BloodNinja Cheers. Much respect and love your way! Think we’re all decent enough here to see that discrimination of any type is abhorrent, even if some of us disagree with how it’s dealt with in society.
@Generic_Username Chauvin was only the fifth US cop in 15 years to be convicted of murder, despite the sheer number of minorities killed by the police. Whether you like it or not, the protests ensured that case didn't disappear over time and that the media wouldn't get bored of it.
Regardless, this conversation is straying wildly from the point. It speaks volumes when an article about how a game with a strong female protagonist empowered a young girl inevitably ends with arguments about Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ+ rights, two subjects that should have nothing to do with the topic, but that people always lump together as 'nuisance' topics they don't like "being rammed down their throats".
@Franklin Unfortunately, don’t think much will change.
Peaceful protesting = doesn’t work
Violent protesting = doesn’t work
When those elected don’t give a damn, I’m not sure what else can be achieved.
Unfortunately, I’ve yet to see anyone influential come at it with the angle of the above cycle (disaster followed by fallout followed by silence/dying down of the situation followed by nothing) and highlight why this is always the case and why those affected allow those governed to get away with doing nothing, but it’s the single biggest issue facing any true efforts to making change.
In my opinion, of course.
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I'm thankful there is someone as kind, patient, and hard-working as Chris to keep saying over and over and explaining the basics and so much of what should go without saying in this day and age.
Yet people are still complaining that mods here are shifting their weight.
@Generic_Username
Well historically, peaceful and violent protests have worked at points.
Though perhaps we are reaching a new paradigm.
@scully1888 Absolutely respect what you have to say.
Think following the train of comments it’s easy to see where it strayed off topic.
And you’re right - this has nothing to do with the article. For what it’s worth though, it’s fascinating all the same to have these discussions as it’s broadly lumped under the ‘society and feeling included’ umbrella.
@SaveDinos
and it took the President 6 hours to answer the Vice President's call for help.
@Franklin Whichever way you look at it, we’ll never eliminate discrimination fully from society. I’m sure society is getting better at it, but it’s an inevitable - partly driven by ignorance/lack of education and partly driven by being hard wired that anyone different should be treated differently.
On a (MUCH) lower level, it’s akin to a kid at school who wears bad clothes because his parents can’t afford what the other kids are wearing being bullied, or the kid who has acne from being teased. As adults, we know it’s wrong, but kids have always been there to pick on those who look, or act different to them.
I just want to say I find it highly ironic that you praise Metroid for female empowerment and complain about Streets of Rage and Street Fighter showing panty shots when literally the reward for beating the game faster is to see Samus in less and less clothes until she's in her panties.
This was a great article, thanks. And quite disappointing to see all the immature misogynistic flavored comments.
That headline has to be the funniest thing I read all week. At first, I thought Kate wrote this; it seems right up her alley to write something like that.
All in all, it was a nice read. But, the headline is the only thing that people will remember from this or bother to read past it( I can name a few users that can attest to this). If that's what you're going for, good job. If not, I say work on that.
People on here need to calm down. I don't care for these personal pieces; I don't click on them or even bother to respond to them. Life's too short to be getting angry over something so minuscule such as this.
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@MKTerry Was thinking the same whilst reading it. Still sexualisation of the female form, which obviously carried over to games like Tomb Raider.
@scully1888 no, my comment was actually calling for less, not more negativity. You post these kinds of articles not from some deep yearning for representation, but for clicks and to 'kick the hornet's nest' so to speak, then you sit back and eat your popcorn and watch it all kick off. (And by you, I don't mean you personally, but you catch my drift.) You can say anything you want to that, but it's the truth.
Jesus, if the title is true women really do have it bad.
@Jey887 strange that It was like that, at the time 99% of videogame players were MALE! Even Nintendo made a handheld called "Game Boy", not "Game Kid"...
Nowadays 40% of players are female, of course things have changed.
Okay, the conversation here has deviated far enough from Samus turning out to be a woman and the effect of that revelation, I think. Let’s focus on that from here on.
I remember seeing the death animation where Samus was naked, in space, which would be instant death (I was playing the Japanese version). It made the power suit seem so important to her survival. I identified with that vulnerability of being in a space suit, surrounded by prickly creatures. I also had never seen female nudity in a videogame, so that was entertaining to a 14yr old boy. Super Metroid got me into videogames. I really like slasher movies too, which has a similar trope of attractive female protagonist in peril, a bit like Ripley in Alien. None of this seems feminist to me, it is actually a bit exploitative if anything, which is consistent with a lot of media I have seen come out of Japan. I'm not saying there is anything wrong, or right with this fan service, I don't care. At 14 I didn't analyze the significance of gender roles or issues, and would rather not do that now, because it isn't interesting to me. I can say that I like lots of different media about people who are different to me. I identify with the fear and isolation of being alone in space and surrounded by aliens, in the sense that, it would be frightening and isolating. This is what makes Samus and Metroid so great, that emotional impact, which is really something for a SNES game. I am looking forward to feeling that same isolation and vulnerability when I play Metroid Dread. If Super Metroid made the writer of this article feel a sort of validation, I think it is great that different types of people can enjoy the game in totally different ways to me.
@boondal naaah, someone is just overreacting...
@dartmonkey
Okay Samus is a woman, now what? What's the significance of her female-ness in the series?
She presumably had maternal instincts which is why she let the Metroid live, which then died in the next game to save her life. Then we had Metroid Other M which continued deeper into 'female-ness' and was arguably one of the worst written Metroid games and made Samus into a damsel in distress, and a dumb one at that. A woman who had no agency outside of what a man told her what she could and should do.
Maybe we should get better writers before we try to tackle anything deeper than 'good guys good bad guys bad'.
Samus being female was incidental. She wasn't cool because she had lady parts, she was cool because of what she did.
Maybe we should focus on having more incidentally female characters and not be so wowed that a female can do cool things. Because honestly that's kind of condescending.
'Wow, I didn't know a lady could be so competent!'
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I’m all for inclusion and representation in video games; not for any particular political reason (in general I’d like to live in a world where we can all be happy) but more so because anything that helps a player immerse themselves fully in a game, enjoy it more or allow it to attract the widest audience possible is a good thing. As someone who was a similar age to the author, I remember my younger sister enjoying playing as Blaze in the Streets of Rage games and Chun Li in Street Fighter but as I’m getting older I realise that more female characters (say an equal balance between male and female) would have been even better for her. In fact, now that I think about it, the original SOR was actually quite diverse for a game from 1991, it was very rare to have a black player character like Adam in any game from that time.
As a father of a boy and a girl I’d love for my younger daughter to have more options if she chooses to play more games as she gets older. I still can’t see why we cannot have Peach as a playable character in a mainline Mario title (I’m aware of 3D World and Super Princess Peach). How hard would it be to include a campaign where choosing Mario would have Peach kidnapped but choosing Peach would have Mario captured? Surely it would not be a huge stretch to program and as you would not be forced to make either decision, no knuckle draggers could complain ‘wHy Do I hAvE tO pLaY aS A gIrL?!’
I really realised this when I took my wife to see Captain Marvel. She’s a fan of the MCU but for her this was the film that she felt really spoke to her. She’s not blind to some of the criticism aimed at the film (much of which I feel is misaimed anyway)but she felt that she had finally seen a film where a female hero kicks butt and offers no compromise, which to me is very similar to Metroid. Seeing her nerding out they way that I have done to some if the other male heroes made me realise that there does need to be more characters for women and girls to look up to. Even the new Star Wars films, which are not a patch on the originals, get a big thumbs up from me for giving my little girl a hero to look up to in Rey. What does a 5 year old care about story or character development; I never did when I watched Arnold taking out rooms full of baddies as a a kid, my daughter just sees a badass female Jedi swing a lightsaber!
@Whitestrider I think it's just clickbait.
@dartmonkey why wait till now to say that? Say it straight away in future, hell, make it the first comment. You don't need a crystal ball to predict how this will play out. Oh and as for turning the tide now? Gate. Closed. After. Horse. Bolted.
I remember learning this with my friends on the playground. There was an initial shock of “really??” as it was quite a shock for the time. It was shortly followed however by “cool - well she’s a badass”. And from then on, it was never a shock when the protagonist of a game was female. A badass is a badass.
Can’t we all just be gamers of a non-disclosed gender, sexuality, location, race, religious beliefs and political beliefs?
@Generic_Username You too! It can be hard to talk about because some people think that if you disagree with something that you automatically don’t want them to exist, when that’s not always the case!
@Gamecuber I see you drawing parallels between the bad Star Wars movies, Captain Marvel and Metroid... I politely disagree. I love Metroid, these films are not my favourites! (Joke)
@Manjushri btw, Super Mario is sexist just because you have to save the princess? If it's the case it's ridiculous...saving a princess from a Monster or other dangers is just a trope from medioeval times, nothing more, nothing less, it doesn't have to do with gender roles, at least not in modern times...also Mario isn't your usual knight on his white borse, with blonde hair, Blue eyes and so on...nobody complained when you could play as a powerful amazon in Golden Axe, though, or as a skilled street fighter in Streets of Rage, after "having" to save the girl in Double Dragon and Final Fight. And what's wrong if some girls need to be saved? Not all people are strong like ChunLi...
@scully1888 The FBI did an audit for police brutality against the Burbank Police Department in the early part of 2000. Over 40 of their cops were jailed for felony assault charges or worse. I know this because I lived there at the time and knew people on their force. It was excruciating because of those 40+ that were jailed, they were found 100% guilty in court for various violent crimes associated with their abuse of power. Just saying, it’s been a lot more than the number you just quoted, because much of their admonishments are not televised or put on the news.
Lots of salt in here.
@BloodNinja
I don't know about NEVER the case, I mean some people really are just that ignorant, closeminded, and cruel that they legitimately don't want other people to exist because of minor inconsequential reasons.
But for the most part you're right.
@boondal probably...but still these articles sometimes are a bit too pathetic.
@MegaVel91 Just saying, if you showed up to a classical concert and they played metal, you would be upset if that’s what was advertised. People showing up to read a video games website should be able to voice their opinion of they feel the nature of the sites content is if a different tone that what was initially advertised. There’s certainly room for the conversation, but it’s also an odd place to have it, due to the amount of moderation and overall context the site presents.
@MKTerry I agree with that, I caught myself after I typed “never” but just let it go. I updated the comment.
@BloodNinja I stand by my figures but out of respect for the request @dartmonkey just made I'm not going to get into it because the topic's derailed enough as it is.
@Lordplops When people are going round in circles, it’s time to move on.
@BloodNinja This is a celebratory article about a great Nintendo game by a respected writer with an extensive knowledge of the field who has written many fantastic pieces for the site before. I’m not sure how it deviates from the ‘advertised’ tone.
@dartmonkey Feel free to browse the discussion above for that information. I see the celebratory nature; it also is attention seeking. The overall discussion has been wonderful, mind you, with only a small amount of comments needing to be removed.
Metroids also have the right to exist, but that didn't stop you from slaughtering hundreds of them throughout the game did it.
@BloodNinja I think that anecdote further serves to proves the author's point though. If you're a girl into games at that point and the majority around you says "games are for boys", that's ostracizing. It's being told "this is how things should be, and you aren't that". Always having male protagonists or sexualized female protagonists as 'service' to a target male audience reinforces this statement. Perhaps without meaning to, it's games telling female players "this isn't for you".
As the author notes, Metroid isn't feminist by any stretch, and it does sexualize Samus for the completionist endings, but the majority of the game simply has a female character be a badass without any fanfare or attention being called to it. Whether or not this was intended to be "inclusive" or "progressive", it was, and the author is relating her experience of finding validation of her interests in a character she could actually project herself onto. It's a powerful thing, and something I hope everyone can find somewhere.
@ATaco Zelda stars in 2 games on the Phillips CDi, I'll have you know. Everyone loved them and there is nothing more to say about them.
@ACuriousTanuki I didn’t state the anecdote to counter any arguments. But yes, many girls thought other girls that played games were weird when I was in school in the 80’s. I would hardly call it ostracizing; nobody is being forced out of society because they play with “boys toys.” They will simply find their way into another like-minded group, that’s all.
@kimimi Thanks for writing this. I have no doubt you knew what many peoples' reaction would be, so thank you for taking the time to write it in spite of that.
@XBontendo Ironically, wand of gamelon was an example of a strong female lead in a game during a time when they were only the lead to be sexy. Too bad it was, y'know, wand of gamelon lol
@MKTerry The author does address the uneven portrayal of Samus’s female form in the article.
Samus was/is a shallow character, and it doesn’t make much difference to the game that she’s a woman. However, that is the reason her being a woman was significant for the author and others. Male characters don’t need to be well-written or use their male-ness in a specific way to justify their existence, and having a female protagonist lead a game without adding any sort of deep meaning is the sort of representation that ends up being important.
Another article designed to generate clicks through the inevitable arguments - do the authors get a percentage of the add revenue I wonder.
Samus seems an odd choice as a female role model when her gender is literally only used as fan service by Nintendo - probably one of the least inclusive gaming companies going.
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@Moistnado they’re not my favourite either, but I see the impact they have had on both my wife and daughter. Seeing them so excited to have someone on screen that they can identify with makes me reflect on how lucky that there are so many characters I can relate to as a man. I’d like more people to get to have that feeling too, in any form of media (after all, there’s enough to go round for everyone to have their own heroes).
I love Metroid too, though I have to confess that I have the nasty habit of getting to the last boss and quitting! Finally rectified that during lockdown by going back and finishing Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion and Metroid Prime.
@Gamecuber but she felt that she had finally seen a film where a female hero kicks butt and offers no compromise
You should make your wife watch the "Alien(s)" movies. At least for sure "Alien", "Aliens", and even "Alien 3" (yeah I know its universally hated by the fans but I'm in the minority that actually liked it LOL). Skip 4 that is trash Since I was a boy the character of Ellen Ripley (played amazingly by Sigourney Weaver) was always to me the best representation of a female hero type. However, what separates her from actually being a established "super hero" or something is she transforms into the hero by her circumstances. She's terrified like everyone else. She's literally facing a horrible death from a foe(s) that is far superior in every single way. But she has the will to survive and gathers just enough bravery to do what is necessary to survive. Especially in "Aliens". She's NOT a trained marine or anything. But she's a leader with the will. She straight up takes the little weapon knowledge she has and dives into the hive to rescue a little girl she promised to protect. All the while she is so terrified but pushes through.
I can go on forever but in my opinion those movies did it best without necessarily "sticking it to the men" like many movies and TV shows do today. No politics or anything like that. Just a female character faced with the worst circumstances known to humankind with just enough will and bravery to make it through. Even if failure meant certain death (something bursting out the chest!)
@Mr_Pepperami Yep! It was revealed at the end of the original.
IGN would love an over dramatic article like this. On par, if not more so than their “How God of War made me a better father” piece.
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Can I downvote an article?
The problem isn't with a female gamer finding connection to a character. The problem is equating that experience with "having the right to exist." If this article didn't use such a sensationalist and obviously hyperbolic title, you wouldn't see the push back.
So then the question becomes is that sensationalism intentional or not, and that further explains the pushback.
Just trying to unpack this for people who don't seem to understand.
Anyway, back on topic… ‘Y can’t Metroid crawl?’
@CheekyZelda Funny I learn'd, It with brawl to LOL.
Look to all that think this article is woke or otherwise, those people have there opinion and you have yours. And you can disagree if you want but I can not say that those peoples feelings are invalid.
Also I think its cool the the writer Connects with samus but lord does the title need to be changed as it kinda gives off that woke vibe I think people are talking about.
@Chocobo_Shepherd Yes thats my only issue with this article, But other then that its pretty neat.
@Ganner OOO thats a good one.
@BloodNinja being told "you don't belong in our group" is the dictionary definition of ostracization. It's not just about being pushed out of some small circle of friends; if you're a girl being told you're not a "proper girl" because you likes games and "games are for boys", there's not a simple solution to that. Saying "just find another group" glosses over both the difficulty and uncertainty of doing so, and the absurdity and disparagingness of it.
@BloodNinja Look man. I would be more sympathetic to that if they weren't simply berating the author and NintendoLife for making an article they don't care for and basically going "I no like! Stop making articles like this!"
They're basically telling the staff of this website to be a purely a news mouthpiece and nothing else. It's called NintendoLife, not NintendoNews. "Life" encompasses more than just video game announcements and news of upcoming titles. It's also about sharing experiences, and if the staff here want to share experiences with video games and Nintendo, then I welcome it.
Telling them not to make articles like this just because they don't like them is selfish, plain and simple. They are allowed to write what they like. They aren't a corporate business like the WSJ or the NYT.
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The sad thing is that if it wasn't for her gender Samus would probably have been quickly forgotten. She's mostly a generic space warrior. I actually thought she was a robot at first.
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NL has kept the haters busy in the comments sections this week!
God forbid the female staff writers here put together a list or share her feelings on a game character she admires — too many man-children feel provoked somehow.
I’ll never understand it.
Forgetting them, Kerry, thank you for the article and for being visible.
@YoungLink64 Thank you! I know I have some strong opinions about some things, but I’m not entirely crazy LOL
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@MegaVel91 I get what you mean. It’s definitely going to be up to the “eye of the beholder.” I actually happen to enjoy these articles because of the discussion that comes out of them. It’s not always pretty! But most of the time it’s pretty eye-opening for me. I enjoy hearing others thoughts on these matters.
@Dezzy exactly, those sites are finished. And that's why I'm just about down with NintendoLife. Looks like Nintendo Everything will be my go to... I'm so tried of this b s progressive stuff that just serves to separate us even more!
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@BloodNinja WHAAAAAT? I think I remember you saying something about martial arts but I don't think you said you teach'd it.
@ACuriousTanuki Sort of. The main definition is exile, which usually means you aren’t even allowed to be in the same society. It also applies to groups by a unanimous decision. But I think that “rejected” might be closer to the truth. I, for one, was rejected from groups in high school but I would hardly describe myself as ostracized. I guess it would depend on the individual.
@Ganner it's not like Terminator, Aliens, Harry Potter, Star Wars (og), Hunger Games, Silence of the Lambs, Star Trek, and more and more didn't exist?
@YoungLink64 I may not always succeed but I do try to be restrained. The last article I wasn’t so good at that, but I had a good talk with myself!!!
@Snatcher Yep! Been practicing 20 years, teaching for 15.
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@The_New_Butler I appreciate what you said. Nobody can truly know what another person has experienced. All of us, - male, female, and otherwise - need to listen to each other more.
But there's one thing you got wrong - My experience isn't more "modern" than yours because I am only two years younger than you. I'm currently 38, was born in 1983, which means I was 11 when Super Metroid came out.
@Kainbrightside May your speed booster always have the wind chasing your back!
@BloodNinja Yeah... we all know that this won't happening, especially when said man is white
@Dezzy That’s because we’re in the days of thought-crime. There are plenty of non-progressives in the industry, they’re just terrified to admit it because they know it means the end of their peace and probably the end of their careers.
@BloodNinja Sick!.
@Ulanda Indeed!!
@Dezzy Thank you, I got nothing to add.
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@Ulanda Excuse me? True colors? What the hell are you blabbing about? You literally know nothing about me outside of a comment post and you're spewing garbage like that?
Get out of here with that nonsense.
@Dezzy If you want different political agendas in games media, why don't you go make them yourself?.
You shouldn't be able to force someone else to change their content to suit you.
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@The_New_Butler I'm sorry, I knew you were being sincere. I just thought you'd mistaken me for Gen Z when I'm an older Millennial.
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@Manjushri Hey there, may I ask the connection to your tag name? I live at a Centre named after Manjushri. No worries if you wish to not say/its private. I was just gently curious.
@Mr_Pepperami she has always been a female. Are just finding out now?
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@BloodNinja @Generic_Username Celebrating differences has become a necessity because anyone deviating from the norm can become a target for hate.
Pretending we are all the same hasn't worked.
Making our differences pronounced, makes not being the same, normal. So rather than "Hey you might be missing an arm but at least we both have two legs in common", it's "I have four limbs, and that's me, and you have three, and that's you, neither of us is more or less than the other".
@WindwakerHD83 hahahaha!! This is the way I feel when I read stuff like this. When I was a child, I identified with Charles Barkley, Michael Jackson, Bilbo Baggins, and Michael Landon. I'm not sure what that says about me but whatever.
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.... I am assuming these are your troubled teenage years you are referring to, and this is a game site. Not a therapy session. 🙃
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@Rpg-lover I was joking as it’s so well known. Is my dry wit😒
@Ganner way ahead of you 😀 those just happen to be some of my favourite films. She’s watched them, but isn’t too keen on horror films. I’m not convinced that she’s really watched the Terminator films (she says she ‘watched them on vhs when she was a kid’) but they have a strong female lead in Sarah Connor too.
Ripley is a brilliant heroine, but part of why she works is that (in the original at least) she wasn’t written to be specifically female (all roles were stipulated to be either in the script, it’s only in casting that Ripley was a woman). So the script misses out on a lot of typical stereotypical behaviour (though Lambert, the female navigator, is supposed to be the audience surrogate and falls into the screaming woman role). The brilliance of the film, that is lost now, is that Sigourney Weaver was an unknown; Tom Skeritt was probably the most famous star in the US, with John Hurt famous in the UK. No one expected Ripley to live, so when the Captain dies halfway through it was shock. Again, it wasn’t unusual for there to be a line female survivor, but they were usually saved or left traumatised. Ripley instead, despite her fear (which is entirely realistic) defeats the Alien herself. She is (IMO) one of the best, if not the best, female hero in film. Ultimate badass!
@Mr_Pepperami ooh, I see.. 😁😁😁
@Kainbrightside
I know it's blasphemy, but I'm not a huge fan of Super Metroid. Zero Mission, Fusion, Prime 1 and 2, Samus Returns... those are all fantastic. Super is so floaty and hard to navigate for me haha
@Richnj I’m not sure that our similarities are a pretense. I don’t even know what the “norm” is anymore. For whatever reason, as a teacher people have chosen to confide stuff with me over the years. Perhaps it’s a trust thing, I dunno. But it put me in a situation where voicing my opinion on the matter was not appropriate to the discussion, many times. It was actually the best thing to ever happen to me because it put me in a position where I just had to listen to the other person without always interfering with feedback. Anyway, that exposed me to A LOT, surprisingly. I’ve literally heard it all, and the point I’m hopefully trying to reach is that though everyone may have come to me with different issues that they were struggling with, the end result was the same: we are all suffering on some level, and seek to ease that suffering. Focusing on our differences is easily one variable, I won’t deny that. I think that understanding our similarities amidst those differences is a major key for life.
@Dezzy You just said you are conservative, that sums up your problems with this article. There is not point of being conservative when it comes to games.
I did always feel the “rewards” for clear time were a bit contradictory to the games, especially since the first game made such an effort to surprise the player by revealing the lead was a woman only at the end. Even the instructions kept up the ruse. It was the perfect opportunity to show that male players can enjoy playing as a female character just as much, and that female characters can kick just as much butt without being fan service… and then they turn fan service into a reward. It’s a minor thing, but it’s always bugged me a bit.
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@Majorasblaze I just thought for a long time about what you just said, and I think the reason Samus is such an appealing character (regardless of gender) is the fact that she has all these bizarre qualities and abilities. And as far as I know, none of it is really explained. (If it’s been explained, I don’t need to know!) so it’s kinda cool that she’s just a badass without any real explanation.
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@RaphaBoss What do you mean when you say there’s no point to being conservative when it comes to games? Not here to argue about it, I’m more of a middle of the road guy myself so I don’t have a dog in that race. Just curious what you mean.
Good evening everyone. Just a note to say I’ll be TEMPORARILY locking the comments now until Monday when we can continue actively monitoring them.
Thank you to everyone who contributed in a respectful way.
Edit. Comments are now open again.
@BloodNinja I was replying to another person.
@RaphaBoss I’m aware that you were replying to someone else, just wanted to know what you meant.
Ah, another day, another nintendolife comments section of people getting upset with each other. When's the next one scheduled for? I want to be ready so I can watch it unfold.
@Kainbrightside
I just replayed Fusion and Zero Mission, and I think I prefer a little more linear. Same for Zelda, I wasn't a fan of BoTW but Wind Waker is my favorite haha. Also, surprised by how short those gba metroid games are. I got 50% items in both and completed both in about 4 hours each.
@Kainbrightside
I agree, Metroid deserves to go mainstream on Switch. I'm still hoping for a collection plus Prime Trilogy haha
Thank you for this article! I'd love to see more like this from NL. Inclusivity and representation in media is so important! The best way to grow and improve the medium is through representation (especially of those from minority backgrounds).
Keep up the good work and ignore all the haters!
Absolutely loved this article. It covers a lot of my thoughts as a female gamer growing up. Especially the part about feeling like you have to settle for under-dressed-woman-who-likes-it-that-way or girl-power-woman.
Like, the more it is highlighted that the character is “Female!!” the less I personally feel connected to them.
Polygon is that you?
Also Chun Li "fast but weak" whamen argument was a funny one, as in SF2:WW Chun Li was one of the most popular (together with Ryu) characters in the arcades and is still considered S tier in most games she appears, don't worry i played it competitively in the arcades the same year it was released 1991.
In fact 1 well placed combo, can completely end the round, also don't be doing my girl Blaze Fielding dirty here.
How does these articles have anything to do with the games you mentioned besides a cheap reason to slip in your agenda.
I actually grew up in the 80's as minority, my groups of fiends everyone was accepted, we didn't even think about the fact that we had people who were girls or black people as long as they were a cool people, so get out of here with the "boys club" stuff.
I swear i wouldn't be surprised if turns out that you were born in 1997 or something, and you're seeing all this stuff through propaganda and revisionist history.
@The_Top_Loader
Chun Li is one of the best characters in the game. In fact Chun is S-A tier in most SF games.
This is the nefarious issue with agendas, because reality is often messy and not one dimensional, activists basically have to twist, omit and lie in order to make things fit their particular narrative.
And to be honest i've left so many sites due to them being hijacked by identity politics and extremists views.
What annoys me is that they of course say that they are for equality but that simply not true, if you dont adhere to absolutely everything they say you are out of the club, besides not everyone lives in the US, shares or understands their cultural sensitivities, while constantly updating the new rules, pronouns and terms that are now deemed offensive, so it's it's not sustainable to be able to follow this very small subset of extremists views.
I'll see if they really continue posting stuff like this ill have to search for a new home.
@completo88
Completly Agreed.
I always used the characters based on what they offered me in the game and not what gender they were. In TMNT Tournament Fighters i always use Aska because she is the best character for me to use in that game..
also in SMB 2 and Super Mario 3D world i always use peach because if her floating ability.
In SF2 i never used Zangief because i always saw him as the weakest character in the game .. ironically
@The_Top_Loader Word!
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