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Spoony_Tech

@JaxonH My only problem with South Park is the title of the game and having it displayed for my kids to see. I don't want to have to explain what the game is or about the show. If I play it I would have to open and close like 10 games to knock it off the home screen. I don't really like them seeing Doom either tbh.

John 8:7 He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.

MERG said:

If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.

I'm memory of @Mr_Trill_281 (rip) 3-25-18

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JaxonH

@Spoony_Tech
Ah, I see. I can appreciate that (although the title does make sense as written, so it doesn't necessarily have to be interpreted in a foul manner, in fact I didn't even make that connection until it was pointed out to me, just because it made sense as it was, and makes more sense in game given the kids fracture into 2 groups).

So your kids and you all share a Switch? Have you thought about getting them their own?

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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IceClimbers

March NPD results are in!

Hardware wise, the PS4 was the best selling console, while the Neon Switch was the best selling SKU. XB1/XB1X drove hardware revenue growth too. Strong results all around yet again!

Software wise, Kirby Star Allies debuted at #4 and had the strongest debut in the franchise's history!!! It had a 90% better debut month than the previous record holder, Kirby's Nightmare in Dream Land.

Software Charts:

1. Far Cry 5
2. Sea of Thieves
3. MLB The Show 18
4. Kirby Star Allies
5. GTA V
6. CoD WWII
7. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
8. Ni No Kuni II
9. NBA 2K18
10. Monster Hunter World
11. Super Mario Odyssey
12. Zelda Breath of the Wild
13. PUBG
14. Rainbow Six Siege
15. A Way Out
16. Assassin's Creed Origins
17. Dragon Ball FighterZ
18. FIFA 18
19. Splatoon 2
20. UFC 3

Bayonetta 2 also had a nice hold in the individual Switch chart.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/npd-march-2018-far-cry-5-1-s...

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Spoony_Tech

@JaxonH Yes but then my wife would kill me lol. It will happen at some point and Pokemon might be the reason why.

I wish there was a way to hide M rated content all together on the Switch. They can't play them but wish they couldn't even see them.

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MERG said:

If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.

I'm memory of @Mr_Trill_281 (rip) 3-25-18

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TuVictus

@IceClimbers That's pretty great to hear about kirby. Even if it's too easy for some, I just love the aesthetics they put into each game, I'm happy to hear it did well.

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TuVictus

IceClimbers

By the way, my copy of South Park did arrive earlier today. Haven't gotten to play yet (adult responsibilities and now some NBA playoffs took priority) but that's fine since I was letting the day 1 update and the Splatoon 2 update download.

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JaxonH

I thought Kirby was more fun than it originally looked, but still nothing too special. A quality game for co-op, maybe not so much for single player. Although it is totally playable in single player

I'm glad to see it's done so well. But DKC puts Kirby to utter shame (sorry, no offense dear Kirby fans). But DKC deserves to put up numbers like that. It really does. Not only is it a quality single player game but it's every bit as much a co-op game as Kirby. And now it has a wide range for all skill levels, from Funky Mode to normal mode to hard mode, and infinite replayability via time trial runs (and I never do time trials- I'm not what you would consider a speed runner nor have I ever had any interest in speed running... until I played Tropical Freeze that is).

I'm suddenly juggling God of War, South Park, Gal Gun 2 (and Darkest Dungeon physical version also arrived today, but that's going in backlog). And I wanted to check out Naruto Trilogy on Thursday (but that's probably gonna have to get skipped in lieu of no physical release- can only afford space for the best of the best)... I didn't realize so many games were releasing all at once.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Spoony_Tech

@IceClimbers Just curious since you never responded in the NBA topic, dis you know Mr Trill died?

John 8:7 He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.

MERG said:

If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.

I'm memory of @Mr_Trill_281 (rip) 3-25-18

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FragRed

@darkfenrir I am sure it will do much better than the PS4 version in Japan alone, assuming it launches day and date without delays.

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JaxonH

@FragRed
PS4 version already released in Japan about a month ago. But I'm glad they're releasing that game on Switch same day in the west. Kinda same deal with Valkyria Chronicles 4. Comes later to Switch in Japan but makes day and date release in the west.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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gcunit

JaxonH wrote:

Think that's a tad pessimistic. Sales of Switch are nowhere anywhere close to the Vita. I'm pretty sure it's doing more in Japan alone than Vita was doing globally.

But the type of games being released are pretty similar - mostly indie and Japanese, with the occasional bigger title.

JaxonH wrote:

But, there is actually reason for them to withhold announcements. There is. Nintendo announces almost everything big in their directs. I think 80% 90% of the biggest games we got from third parties, were announced by Nintendo, and/or were announced after other versions. That's just a fact. Not really sure where that mindset is coming from saying there's no reason for them to withhold, when that's exactly what they've been doing since the day the system launched.

It doesn't matter to me who announces them, it's the lack of announcements that's the issue. My point is, if the games are coming, why haven't Nintendo or the 3rd party announced them? I'm seeing several references within various corners of the internet that Switch is having an underwhelming 2018 so far. A couple more big announcements would help maintain consumer belief that Switch is the real deal.

JaxonH wrote:

Dark Souls is still coming. Five years from now when we look back nobody's going to care if the game released 60 to 90 days after the other versions. Might be aggravating now (and it is), but that doesn't suddenly spell doom for the system. Wolfenstein does force a download. And I agree it's aggravating. But again, the game is still coming.

But it's not a promising trend, that's all I'm getting at.

JaxonH wrote:

Stop stressing that Call of Duty ... hasn't been announced.

I never mentioned it

kkslider5552000 wrote:

gcunit doesn't understand the new normal for Nintendo announcements. Major AAA games have several times already been announced literally 3 or less months before release nowadays on Switch, and certain big time titles are very clearly going to wait until the last 1/3 of the year, because that's how AAA games tend to work.

Skyrim = 10 months between reveal and release
Wolfenstein 2 = 9 months between reveal and release
FIFA = 8 months
Dark Souls Remastered = 4 months pushed to ? months.
Metroid Prime 4 = ????

Doom is the only big game I can think of that actually fits your 3 month understanding. I'm probably forgetting some, but pardon me if the above games have warped my understanding.

You guys had me at blood and semen.

What better way to celebrate than firing something out of the pipe?

Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

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Grumblevolcano

About the big 3rd parties situation, E3 is probably the main thing to look at. If we see stuff like Ubisoft's conference ends up just being Just Dance 2019, Starlink and a lot of "everything but Switch" then be concerned.

Grumblevolcano

FragRed

@Grumblevolcano Looking at the kind of games Ubisoft typically produce, I think we should be expecting only Just Dance and Starlink. I certainly don't expect to see the next Watch Dogs or Assassins Creed make their way over. That is unless Ubisoft has another exclusive in the works or something small in size that the Switch could run without too much downgrading

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JaxonH

@gcunit
It's true, Switch is getting a lot of Japanese games. But it's getting a lot of higher profile, high quality Japanese games. Vita got visual novels and the dredges of game development. Just because they both got Japanese games doesn't mean their libraries are anywhere close to being similar.

But Japanese games is exactly what's going to make Switch a success. It's part of the reason Wii U failed. It didn't really get any. But 3DS, it got plenty of Japanese games. Good high-quality ones. And so is Switch. It's library is far more in common with 3DS than Vita. And it's library is going to far exceed that of 3DS. A lot of the games we are seeing would never have been dreamed to be on 3DS.

As for lack of announcements, how many are you expecting? We've got a list of like 75 games coming, something like that? Lack of announcements relative to what, exactly? There's plenty of games getting announced. The only type of game it could use more of is higher budget western games. But it doesn't need them. 3DS didn't need them. Wii didn't need them. That's the hardest segment of the market to pull in. But we're still getting games announced all the time. If you're comparing it to other consoles, then yeah it's getting a lot less games announced, that's true. But since when does a system need that many games announced to be considered enough? 3DS got way less games then a PS4 and yet it still one of the best systems of all time, with one of the best libraries. Switch is getting way more games than 3DS was getting at this point in its life. And way higher quality at that.

As for not being a promising trend... it is what it is. But at the end of the day, as long as games are coming, people will get over it. In fact I would recommend getting used to it because I'm fairly certain most games are going to come later than other consoles. It is what it is. Doesn't make the game any less fun when you play it.

As for consumers believing Switch is "the real deal", last I checked it's still selling really well so I don't know where this idea came from the consumers suddenly lost faith in the system. And I'm not really sure why they would anyways. It's so shortsighted. The consumers that are going to make the system a success are not Wii U owners. And the only people complaining about games are... Wii U owners. To everyone else, they're getting a new 1st party game every month, quite often with once in a generation masterpieces (Bayonetta 2, DKC Tropical Freeze).

It's like you're looking at things through the lens of a Wii U owner and then thinking everyone in the world shares that viewpoint. People believe Switch is the real deal (and they should). Nothing has changed. When you're talking about the masses who buy consoles, they're looking at the system as a whole. They see your system everyone loves that's selling great, with games like Zelda BotW, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2, Bayonetta 2, DKC Tropical Freeze, they see ARMS and Mario Tennis and Hyrule Warriors. There's nothing to make someone think it's not the real deal.

Of course the system could always use more games- and more games will definitely benefit the system but, you almost act as if it's not getting a crap ton of games. Good ones. Even if one were to concede this year isn't the best they've ever had, it's a couple months. This is the long game of chess, not tic-tac-toe. A couple months with less releases and Wii U ports to keep things rolling is nothing. And in 60 days when DKC is out, Hyrule Warriors and Mario Tennis is out, e3 rolls along and we see Smash Bros and Fire Emblem and Pokémon and Mario Maker, do you think anybody's going to care about a couple months in the early year that didn't have some earth shattering game? No need to freak out over a couple months with Wii U ports.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

JaxonH

@gcunit
Btw, not only DOOM, but Dark Souls (doesn't matter if it was pushed back, it was originally slated for May), South Park, Crash Trilogy, Mario Rabbids, Okami HD, MHXX, etc. And most 3rd party games releasing in the second half of the year, they will be announced at e3 or the August Direct following. Or they're already announced (No More Heroes, DQ Builders 2, World Ends With You, SNK Heroines, Valkyria Chronicles 4, Shining Resonance, My Hero Ones Justice, V-Rally 4, Pillars of Eternity 2, etc etc).

To be clear, I want to see more 3rd party games come to Switch, as you do. As much as possible, obviously. But let's be realistic and our expectations, and appreciate the fact most developers committing to Switch beyond test cases and easy ports, only did so after the system proved itself and 3rd party software sales proved itself, which wasn't that long ago. Let's also appreciate the fact it is a portable system where online is not is strong point. Which directly contradicts a lot of the western high budget games being made today. Let's appreciate the fact that some games will be deemed more trouble than they're worth, depending on the engine, how well it runs on Switch, whether the audience will be receptive, etc. Let's also appreciate the sheer volume of higher profile, full console games coming to Switch that systems like Vita and 3DS never saw. Or Wii U, for that matter

After all, this is the best support we've seen on a Nintendo console in a long time. That fact shouldn't be belittled. With games like Skyrim and Dark Souls, DOOM and Wolfenstein 2, Pillars of Eternity 2, South Park, LA Noire, etc. Bethesda, From Software, Obsidian, Rockstar ...these are not game developers we would've seen on past Nintendo consoles. Progress is being made... finally. But progress is a process. And it takes time. And hopefully by the time this generation is over, we'll look back and we'll see alot of those games you want to see. But we have to, have to have to have to, we have to account for the initial lack of confidence in Switch from developers, we have to account for the time period they waited and observed, and we have to account for the time it then takes to start devoting resources to the system and get games to market. Had they had faith in the system from day one, we would probably start seeing an exponential burst of games right about now. Unfortunately that wasn't the case, so expect a setback of 6-12 months minumum. Support is picking up even now, but I suspect by the end of this year, there will be a noticeable increase. Just given the fact the first year they were observing the system and then the year after that to get a game out, and from there more and more release as games that take 18 months are finished, 24 months are finished, 36 months are finished, etc.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Grumblevolcano

@FragRed That's the thing though. Franchises like Assassin's Creed and Watch Dogs came even to Wii U. There have been a lot of Assassin's Creed remasters too, those remasters would've been perfect for Switch in the same way Dark Souls Remastered is coming to Switch later this year but no sign of them.

Every Splinter Cell game except Essentials (PSP exclusive) and Conviction (multiplatform) has appeared on a Nintendo console. Let's say the Ghost Recon Wildlands tease is a sign of a new Splinter Cell game and that Splinter Cell game comes to everything but Switch. It would be more signs towards Switch having bad 3rd party support.

Grumblevolcano

FragRed

@Grumblevolcano Remasters not coming to Switch I admit is a bit strange, but new games which are becoming bigger and more complex, often open world with Ubisoft, are just not going to be ported to the Switch. The amount of resources required to get them running on the system is likely too extensive to make it worth the while.

The problem is, with the likelihood of the PS5 launching in 2019/2020, there will be less third party support coming to the system as it falls too far behind in terms of power Hardware sales stop meaning anything if the system isn't powerful enough for fairly standard ports in this day and age.

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