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I mean... come on ... even I would be saying it was incredible if I was there playing new games with a new Nintendo console.

The funny surprise would be someone saying "I was here since 8am and this console s*cks b*lls!"

Remember those Snow White positive reactions? LOL...

@-wc- ironically over here we are all around 40 too ... and nobody here is excited as other times with the new console. Maybe its because the world is looking dire right now and we start thinking there's so many responsibilities to pay for and this time is more of the same and with a business philosophy that not many want to get behind.

I've also been a Nintendo megafan since I was 5 ... and even though I have many Switch games... I don't like when Nintendo gets overconfident and on top and forgets about their fans and start putting the shareholders upfront of the stage.

You are one of around 5-6 users here that I always agree with what they post ... must be the age thing lol

@-wc- yeah… F Nintendo for giving that series Zero chance of a revival

Ugh … I hate TotK with a passion…
Fiiine… give me all 5

But let’s move on… they’ll look pretty samey next to my BotW amiibo. Time for a new Zelda era & style.

Make it open world and charge $80 for it.
It’s the only way it will get people’s attention and poor Nintendo needs to maximize profits this gen. /s

Honestly Xenoblade X is a way better open world than BotW.

Also… BOTW is boring.

@FlyingDunsparce if so that would mean that people could finally experience Four Swords Adventure online. Me? Im happy with my GC disc. Awesome multiplayer experience back then

Only two??? This game should have THREE versions…. Never is Wind Waker too much Wind Waker. One of the best Zeldas along MM.

Now… release it in black and white with MORE triforce shards

@JJtheTexan exactly!!

@WiltonRoots you too. Have a nice life and weekend

@WiltonRoots whaaaat? Suuure, all those people living in those countries should fly overseas to buy a Nintendo console and Nintendo games. Lol, no.
Anyway, I think we already missed the point.

@WiltonRoots In Brazil the Switch 2 costs the equivalent to $762 usd BEFORE taxes.
In Mexico it may cost the equivalent to $600-$650 usd or more.

Can’t find the cost of the games in Brazil or Mexico yet… but you can imagine. The point is, no… you can’t always work use the cost differences to your advantage and certainly not for people living in those countries. All things have different costs in different regions.

Brazil is infamous for being notoriously expensive with video games, specifically Nintendo products.

@Serpenterror both are cases of boolshit* and greediness tbh.

Edit: However, as @fenlix noted below… that edition includes the TWO games plus all the DLCs.

So you get a Complete Edition of an PS4-enhanced PS3 game and a Complete Edition of a PS4 game… both enhanced for PS5.

So in retrospective, you just further proved the point that Nintendo is being extremely greedy with this move.

Good… let them drown in their own scalper stock

@WiltonRoots don’t forget the taxes 😉 not just the exchange

@WiltonRoots the cost differences to your advantage?? Loool

Ok… I’m not even from Brazil… but hey Brazilian people and people living in Mexico… there’s a guy here that needs a dose of reality about Nintendo prices in international markets.

@WiltonRoots and not very good at reading I see because at this point in the discussion you’d know it’s not about the money. Sure, you say you travel a lot, but you didn’t know that countries have different prices for everything because of the different currencies and taxes? Wow, it must have been a surprise in all those travels.

Ohh and btw, you’re in a gaming website. What do you expect people to talk about? …. Turnip prices?

@Serpenterror I mean… that’s not comparable. That is a collectors edition. It includes a steelcase, all the dlc, a comic, lithographies and a thank you letter.
But I know what you tried to say.

@WiltonRoots you do know there are other countries besides the US right? Or do you think all countries have the same pricing and discounts? 🤣🤣

Suddenly everyone is dumb enough to think we all live in the same country.
I think you’re the one reaching my friend.

@WiltonRoots you didn’t read the comment at all. It’s not about the money. It’s their anti consumer tactics. Sure, you think this is about $10. My time spent commenting here is worth more than those $10….. however it is the path that Nintendo is taking. And if people dont say anything about it, then they will feel enabled and keep doing more anti-consumer stuff.

Remember when they said the $70 price hike for TotK was a one and done situation? Mmmhhhh not even 2 years afterwards and look where that got us. Because people enabled them.

I’ve been a mega Nintendo fan for almost 40 years now… but I can tell when NOT to be a sheep.

@WiltonRoots I would let it pass if it was the only scummy thing they’ve done with this reveal…. But what number is it … the 4th? The 5th? …. So yeah… $10 over here… $10 over there… another $10-$20 over there… then expenses start piling up … and not for a good, explainable or defendable reason either.

It’s not about money either, it’s about principle and not letting them stick it to their consumers.

@StewdaMegaManNerd at this point in time nobody would complain about that because you can find that game ANYWHERE with a price cut. It’s a 7 year old game. We are not talking about a Zelda that released last year or a few months ago, Jesus.

@WiltonRoots because it’s not about BotW, it’s about Nintendo just being greedy. And it’s not the first fumble from them in this past week.

I would be saying the same thing if this was for Mario 3D World or Animal Crossing…. Or any other game.

@sanderev why would it be more expensive? It’s a 7 year old game! The game is already done, the DLC is already done. It’s not like they are throwing any more money at it.

@sanderev you completely missed the point lol.
It’s not about if they said it or did not. It’s about what they are NOT doing.

People forget THIS existed

@Rosona “ getting mugged less is good news.”

Lol no… NOT getting mugged is good news. (It shouldn’t even BE good news) Getting mugged is bad news.

You can’t say something that should be that way from the start is good news.

Also you’re saying that bad news shouldn’t be reported because they draw hate? What an odd view of the world.

@garfreek how about not selling standalone docks! If you want another one or if it breaks you must cough up those sweet $499 again 😈

Or the next Animal Crossing is priced at $100 because it is now open world 🤣

I like this game.

@Rosona wait you’re saying that the thing that should be like in the first place is good news? Looool

That’s like saying getting mugged one day but not every day is good news.

@vyseofhr spoken with nothing but truth

@StewdaMegaManNerd @hammergalladebro why would including the DLC drive the price even further? It’s an 8 year old game! 🫠 The game is already done, the DLC is already done. Its not like they are throwing any more money at it.

It’s just scummy Nintendo.

@Pickettfury did you even read the article?

“Here's the statement Nintendo sent IGN:“ should be enough of verified and corroborated information, it’s coming from the source lol

Welcome to modern Nintendo’s pricing policies LMAO.

Seriously… why would anyone defend this? What’s the excuse this time?

The Switch 2 is slowly becoming the Xbox One of this generation. The more I read the less I want to upgrade.

At this point just give it to anybody! Ubisoft, Activision if you need to. What’s is worse than nothing, Microsoft or Nuts and Bolts?

Hell… give it to Project Dream, they have better ideas in a 1-minute video than Microsoft in 25 years.

https://youtu.be/xdXtmJVKpcg?si=JRwGcv98h4vv4zHN

Or give it to Playtonic!

@Dang_69 I agree with you there… but then why do shooters feel more comfortable (and are more popular) on Xbox and PS?

I remember that Metroid Prime felt better with analogue triggers when charging your beam … felt more realistic.

@N00BiSH hehehe…. I know this is an unpolpular opinion…. But I really liked DK 64 back in it’s time 😅 …

“the in-game map felt more like a chunk of the Breath of the Wild map than a world from Odyssey."

Uh-oh… that line worries me. I don’t want every game BotW-fied

That’s what the L and R are for!
If you wanted instancy for a command, then assign that input to the L and R… if you wanted something that needs more finesse… assign it into the ZL and ZR ….

That’s why they were added in the first place.

I always thought it was more of a patent issue with other companies… not out of stubbornness.

I can understand that thought during the GC era in which the only workaround to that was the small purple Z-button…. But now that we have TWO buttons like that you could’ve had the variety.

The analog triggers are like joysticks in which the further you push your character either runs or walks…. (I forgot the term) It’s the evolution for triggers.

There’s a reason why the GC controller is considered one of the best.

@MasterHob its based on their predecessors. Will Mario Kart have a living city like GTA? I'm 100% sure it wont.

"be real. Budget doesn’t determine how much a game can realistically charge."

• Yes... its called ROI.

And even Nintendo used that approach to defend TotK's price when it released. And either you sell it cheaper and expect higher sales... or you sell it at a higher price and expect lower sales. Basic economics.
And budget can give you a pretty good idea on how much work (and the size of the workforce) that its being put into a game.

Lets take RDR2 for example. Which one do you think needed a bigger workforce and investment put into it... Mario Kart 8 or RDR2? Which one has more assets? Which one required more artists? (Writers, mocap actors, new technologes, etc.) Which one required more time in the oven for the content offered? Which one spent more money to pay for more things being put on the game?

Yes, by the trailer alone I can say which one requires a bigger workforce and budget. That means a higher amount of money being put into it that needs to make a Return of Investment. That's why GTA has "the right" to be pricier (I dont condone it though) if we are following Nintendo's pricing philosophy of "this has more content than other games, so the price is gonna be higher". If we follow that logic, then GTA 6 must cost $130 ... right?

If one game is investing 1 billion bucks in content... then I can "agree" a higher price .... but if the other is investing 25% of that budget in content ... I cant fathom its price being almost the same price as the other one (a mere $10 in difference)

Like you said... I'll wait to hear more from Mario Kart... but I know Mario Kart... I know it won't include a living, breathing city in the same level as a GTA. I'm hyped for it... but I'm realistic.

I just don't want to defend this new philosophy and enabling Nintendo to not have a floor or a ceiling with this "variable pricing". Because its going to bite our asses in the future... just like I said when TotK released... and look where we are now, just 2 mere years later.

@MasterHob because if Mario Kart is $80-$90 (yes... $90 in many countries, the US and Europe arent the only regions) ... then GTA has all the right to cost $130 if we are following the logic of price increases vs content and development.

I mean, you just need to see the budget for GTA 6 (according to insiders its at least 1 billion!! and up to 2,000 people working on it,) even if you slash these leaked numbers in half you know that its way higher in complexity, content and development difficulty than Mario Kart... come on... lets be real.
(I'm not judging quality of the end product for any of them) ... but like I said... lets be real.
If GTA ends up being $100 then Mario Kart doesn't have any right to be $80-$90.
And I'm not saying this as a GTA fan or anti-Mario Kart ... but from a realistic POV.

@MasterHob no.. GTA is not ok for me… but are we really comparing GTA6 and Mario Kart? lol … and they are just $10 in difference.
Mario Kart should be nowhere near $80-$90 and people shouldn’t be trying to justify it. GTA is a whole other beast and I’m not even that big of a fan.
If people are justifying $80-$90 for Mario Kart then GTA should be, following that logic, at least $130

@The_Spanner yes.. $10 over here… another $10 over there… plus another $10 over there… but don’t forget those other extra $10

See? Even Reggie knows Nintendo’s new pricing philosophies are all wrong.

@Olmectron I know you were being sarcastic. But the sarcasm doesn’t apply with Astrobot and the PS5 example tbh.

Anyway… I think this dragged too long. I would be lying if I’d say im not intrigued or hyped by the new MK because I’m a huge Nintendo consumer. It’s just that I don’t want Nintendo to opt for this approach going forward. And pulling the whole industry to their own price hikes.
It was just a matter of time when GTA6 arrived.
But let’s be honest… can we compare Mario Kart World with GTA6 in the content and development department for just a difference of $10 dollars ($100 rumors)? GTA is a whole other beast.
Just to give some thought about it.
Anyway, it was nice to discuss this with you without getting at each other’s throats. But I need to close this discussion for my sake. Have a great day

@Olmectron yeah that’s why I said I gave you that point. However their initial strategy is always selling at a profit. So my point still stands. They never sell at a loss unless they are forced to.

Yeah.. your Astrobot example… after how many years the PS5 in the market? 5 years?
MKW is a day one bundle.

@Olmectron ok, they sold it at a loss for a time… AFTER a price cut (I’ll give you that). But it further proves my point. They never sell at a loss UNLESS they screw up. MK’s profit starts at a $40-$50 price tag…. So… UNLESS they screw it up, which I hope, they will cut the price to $70 (industry standards) and still make quite a profit.

It’s not that I feel ripped off because of mere $20 … it’s because if we enable them then ALL their upcoming games will be $80. Just like they felt after TotK.

Hell, don’t take my word for it… even an expert like an ex-boss from Sony is saying that $80 is ridiculous.

@Haruki_NLI you’re getting confused about not reaching sales expectations rather than selling at a loss. Selling at a loss would be selling Bayonetta 3 at $20 at launch… and not reaching sales expectations and not making a profit would be selling at $80 (at a profit per unit) but only selling 2,000 units.

And the WiiU and 3DS never sold at a loss. 3DS is even more proof of that, that they were able to do a price cut.

@KociolekDoSyta exactly. They are still making a profit at $50…(because, repeat after me people, Nintendo never sells at a loss) that’s why they are able to bundle it. Now, increasing that to $80-$90 is pure greediness. It’s almost 75%-80% in profit.

Also, let’s be honest… in 2024 alone , Nintendo’s net profit was $3.2 billion dollars.

@LUIGITORNADO Im not villainizing anything. I’m giving proof.
You proved my point. Does Nintendo sell at a loss? No. That’s what I said and it’s a simple fact.

And it supports the argument that if they are bundling the game, then their profit starts at a $30-$40 price tag for the game. It’s not like they are taking a hit because the game is actually $60 and just making a 30% profit. The bundle is proof of that.

Can they still sell MKW at $70 and make a 80-90% profit? Yes they can. Just like they have been doing for decades.

@LUIGITORNADO Microsoft and PlayStation sell their consoles at a loss initially for higher sales numbers. They take the hit to put more consoles and ecosystems for games out there.

Nintendo is well known to never sell anything at a loss or eating a cost for consumers.

MK being bundled with the Switch 2 means their profit line starts at $30 or $40 …. Which means that even at $60 their would be making quite a profit. $80 is just greediness.

In MK’s situation they could have eaten a $10 cost to motivate people to buy it and have higher sales… in this case they are upping the price which will be reflected in lower sales numbers. Just like @datamonkey puts it.

Nintendo is testing the consumer limits with its most popular game because they know we are all Mario Kart sheeps.