Monkeyofthefunk

Looks good. I'll get this at launch to support the dev as well.

Nintendo has listed some new games as well. Super Mario Patent, Xenoblade Copyright, Legend of Zelda: The Mark of Trade.

@Harmunt agreed. With TP & WW it's a good time to own a Wii U.

@mjc0961 compared to the problems with Xbox Live recently, it's very reliable.

I'll be buying it to support Indie devs on Nintendo platforms. I'm old school and R-Type is in my top 10.

@conman2012 Lego City is easily the best Lego game. It's hilarious.

I just hope that when the NX comes along Nintendo´s network wi still be more reliable thank Xbox Live & PSN.

Nintendo NX controller design confirmed.

I read that the Nintendo brand is the most profitable out of the big 3, so surely they could spend a few quid on a big advertising campaign.

@sub12 That and the fact that gaming is bigger than ever. More gamers means higher sales.

Nintendo games not selling well in Japan is a worry. I know games aren't selling well in general but it's traditionally Nintendo's biggest market.

Xenoblade should be higher than 9th this soon after release.

@CapeSmash Thanks. Looking forward to seeing what he can do.

Can you but Mewtwo? I don't have the 3ds version of SSB.

There's a lot of back tracking going on here. I'm sure a lot of people were getting excited about the graphics after E3 but now all of a sudden nobody's bothered about the downgrade.

Nintendo with a touch of the Ubisoft's.

Despite it, probably, being a good game, it does nothing to alter some people's perceptions of the Wii U being a "kiddy" console. In fact it may just enforce those beliefs.

It will sell well within the established user base but with limited shelf space and that "kiddy" tag, it won't shift consoles by the bucket load.

@Kifa Well said!

@IceClimbers You're right, it won't sell systems, well not in large numbers anyway. I'm hoping it sells well amongst the existing Wii U user base as Nintendo need game sales to make up for the lack of hardware sales.

I'll be picking it up on Day One.

The thing that is getting me excited about Splatoon is the range of game modes and the potential for DLC support.

It looks like a breath of fresh air for the FPS genre.

DLC means more money for Nintendo and if that means that Nintendo is around as a hardware developer for longer, I'm happy.

This only becomes an issue if the DLC is pay to win. If it's costumes, characters & weapons/vehicles, then it's a choice.

Nintendo making money from DLC that helps keep them in business is fine by me as long as their prices remain good value. £11 for the MK8 DLC it's excellent value for money. As for on disc locked content behind an amiibo paywall, don't buy the amiibo. It most certainly won't be a game changer.

Can't wait. I love this game on PC, so being able to play it on 3DS is perfect.

It could be about the Zelda delay, more info about the deal with DeNA or just talking about the spring/summer releases.

Expect nothing new and you won't be disappointed.

@Xayo I've been saying this for ages. My son and his friends think Nintendo is childish, so they won't touch their consoles.

@AyeHaley I agree. Pushing somebody off the sofa when they are about to win at MK beats online MP any day.

@andreoni79 I don't understand why they have continued to pump out Mario games but have ignored Metroid, Zelda and F-Zero. These games are the most requested.

I'm guessing more about Starfox including the announcement that it will include F-Zero for ground missions.

@Zombie_Barioth Their image was tarnished by the Wii. You have to take into account that console gaming is bigger than ever and a lot of the younger gamers who have more time on their hands, grew up in the Wii era, so their image of Nintendo is influenced by that console.

As for grey games, I play them on my PC and they are becoming repetitive and unimaginative. I know there can be a balance but is there currently a platform that offers that?

Nintendo offers an alternative to PS4, Xbox and PC. There's nothing wrong with bringing third party games to the Wii U, but it won't change people's perceptions of Nintendo's home console.

Nintendo have to go all in, or stick, when it comes to grabbing the COD, Fifa and BF crowd.

The 3DS has sold well, so you stated people still like Nintendo games. So why aren't those people buying the Wii U?

@Zombie_Barioth So at last you agree with my initial point. It's Nintendo's image, the family friendly, almost childish image that holding them back but it's an image that makes them different, that makes them the alternative in a world of grey and brown games. I hope they don't change but for their financial security, they made need to.

@Zombie_Barioth It wasn't the lack of 3rd party devs why "gamers" jumped ship. The reason was the Wii. Yes it's sales were amazing but a lot of people were put off by the crazy amount of mini and party games.

The Wii U has had to fight the stigma created by the casual Wii. That's the reason the bulk of Wii U sales are to fans of Nintendo. I'm a massive Nintendo fan, currently my only consoles are new 3DS & a Wii U, but my mates prefer the other 2. They never got into Nintendo and not because of the lack of 3rd party games.

Even 3rd party games wouldn't give the Wii U a boost, it's just how people perceive Nintendo.

Yes the 3DS has sold very well but it's not a saturated market.

My wife and daughter have 3ds consoles but not because they love Nintendo, it's because they like mobile games.

The Wii U is a great console but it can't compete on sales with the PS4 & Xbox One.

@MadAdam81 That's why Nintendo have to find a way to stay true to their values whilst selling more home console.

@Caryslan That's not a valid point. The N64 was around in a different era.

Nowadays as long as Mario, Zelda and the rest are the faces of Nintendo's new console, they will never win over gamers from other consoles. They are used to Master Chief, Nathan Drake Etc.

Nintendo are unique and I love them for that, I love their games and characters, but financially it's not working for them. I hope that changes very soon.

@IceClimbers Exactly. As long as Mario, Zelda and the rest are the faces of Nintendo's new console at launch, it will never be taken seriously.

Does anybody know what NX is? No, thought not.

If it is a home console it will follow the trend and sell badly. The reason? Nintendo is not fashionable. People argue over PS4 & Xbox One like they do over their Android & iPhones. Nintendo has a kiddy tag. We know it's not true but that's the tag.

The only way for Nintendo to shake that tag is for them to throw their standards out of the window and develop a console to match/beat the rest. They must also court devs like Rockstar, EA, Activision etc with the offer of a system powerful enough to run their new engines and with a marketing campaign that's alien to Nintendo's current colorful, family friendly approach.

Personally I hope they don't because I'm bored of grey games, but financially they may need to do just that.

@jord I'm about to buy a Wii U again to run alongside my PC and 3DS. I'm skipping Xbox One and PS4, nothing out there.

@Videogamer123 It could be another Dragon Quest.

@McoobabWATP I agree with you. Nintendo's console shifter was going to be Zelda and now that is delayed I can't see another game that will take that role.

Ok can we stop with the NX will be shown next year rumours. There will be more information on NX but I doubt very much that NX will be on show next year. I believe it will be shown in 2017 and will launch then as well.
What NX is, is another discussion. I don't think it's a new home console in a traditional sense. I believe this gen is the last of the stand alone consoles. I think it will be a set top box which will stream games and media. NX could even be a streaming service for Wii U, 3DS, PC and mobile.

No matter what we as Nintendo fans think about the delay, it's bad news for the Wii U. It needed Zelda to sell consoles this Christmas, and now it's left with Xenoblade, which releases in early summer, Splatoon which is unlikely to sell consoles and Starfox, our only hope. That is if Starfox gets a 2015 release.

I hope Ninty have something big up their sleeve for E3.

@Grumblevolcano Agreed. I think it's a gaming hub, possibly a streaming service or social network. I honestly don't think it's a console.

@lkm Well said. We could be getting Xenoblade, Splatoon, Starfox and others to be announced at E3.

@NbaJunkie What is intelligence and will it be released in 2015?

@renaryuugufan92 NX isn't being shown or released in 2015, they said more details will be given and they didn't say it was hardware, just a "platform"

@Azooooz I hope so because Wii U's future will depend on it.

@Pod I'm not sure where Nintendo is going at the moment with the Wii U. Zelda sells more consoles than Mario, DK and the rest but it was too late to save the excellent GameCube but it sold Wii's.

@SPEtheridge E3 is not far away so we could get a surprise there.

I was about to buy another Wii U so this is a disappointment. I keep hearing that it will be coming out on the NX. I'm not sure that NX will be a new console. I admit the Wii U is not making Nintendo a lot of money, it's a great console but not a money maker, so NX could be a replacement but I think it's something completely different.

It could be a unification of platforms, including Wii U, 3DS, PC and mobile, a sort of hub. Or a game streaming service that allows you to play games on those platforms. It's already been mentioned that this gen could be the last of the dedicated consoles as we move into set top boxes that stream media.

I hope it's a powerful console that shows what Nintendo can do, as long as it's release date is well into 2018. Then I can happily buy my Wii U.

I have just completed Watchdogs on the PS4 and it was ok but nothing special.

It was one of the most overhyped, generic games I've played for a long time. It was fun but nothing new or exciting and it pales in comparison to GTA V. There are 2 reasons I would buy this again, because of the promise of gamepad features, and to support 3rd party games on the Wii U so we get more of them.

As a stand alone game, it's just not that good.

@jariw Thanks. I've picked up 3D world and it's a cracking game. I'll grab DK asap.

I sold my Wii U last year because of a lack of games but I knew I would always come back for MK8. What a game! I picked up Pikmin 3 as my free game and that's a load of fun too.
Nintendo have always produced great games and consoles and the Wii U is the best out there right now.

Let's hope E3 brings some great games.

Ah well, looks like another cancelled game for Wii U.

@Frapp £300 because I wouldn't be buying the console without games, I'd be getting a bundle with 4 games and a Wiimote, not a bad deal but I've played 2 of them already.

I just don't have confidence in where the Wii U is going this year.