Over the past few weeks, some Nintendo fans on social media have convinced themselves that one "world premiere" we'll be getting at this year's Game Awards is tied to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sequel.
It all stems from a tweet by the host and organiser Geoff Keighley - mentioning how "honored" he was to reveal a project that he's been working on with a developer for 2.5 years. The "hype" has since snowballed, but before you get too excited, you might want to read on...
In the latest Nate the Hate podcast, hosted by Nintendo insider Nate Drake - who accurately predicted Nintendo's higher-priced NSO N64 tier, fellow "insider" and VentureBeat game journalist Jeff Grubb has shared his own thoughts - noting how he isn't really expecting to see Link's next big adventure shown at the annual awards show this year.
Here are Grubb's own predictions about Nintendo's future plans for BOTW 2, when asked if the anticipated title would feature at this week's Game Awards on December 9th. It's worth highlighting how he also believes it would likely be released "closer" towards the end of next year if it even makes 2022:
"I'm on the 'no' side - the E3 trailer actually is too near, it's too close...that game [Zelda: BOTW 2] probably [is] not coming out closer until the end of next year, if it comes out in 2022 at all. And so yeah - no...if they do, what happens is we get the name and they show us a trailer that explains why the name is so significant, maybe that's ready and that would be different from what they showed at E3, but I still think the next time we see that game probably will be E3 or a Direct dedicated to Zelda, right around that time maybe a few months before, maybe a couple before, so yeah."
Nate added to this with his own thoughts - mentioning how Nintendo was holding back the name, to avoid revealing too much:
"See, I agree with you - because the way they've [Nintendo] treated the game and the name, they've said the name is going to reveal some of those secrets that the game holds, so you wouldn't want to show that a year in advance, you would want to hold that closer to the actual release date, so it feels a little too soon, to give it an official title."
As for the rumoured Metroid Prime remaster - Jeff's not so sure about that, either. While he admits now would be a good time to show it, he reiterates how he's not sure Nintendo will reveal any games at The Game Awards this year and feels it would be more likely to show a trailer for something like the upcoming Super Mario animated movie.
Later on in the podcast, Grubb mentioned how now would also be a good time for a game like the rumoured Xenoblade Chronicles 3. Ultimately though, he thinks it's probably best to "expect nothing":
"We could build up this hype, but people maybe should expect nothing and maybe be happy if they get anything at all."
Jeff Grubb has a relatively reliable track record and while these are just his "predictions" for the upcoming Game Awards show, he accurately predicted BOTW 2 would appear at Nintendo's E3 Direct ahead of the event.
Do you think we'll see the sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild at this year's Game Awards? How about the rumoured Metroid Prime remaster? Leave your own thoughts down below.
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Sooo it’s the Holiday game for 2022… Imagine!
Nate got the gba leak wrong though ... although it is debatable whether he even made n64 and gba predictions instead of just speculation in that prior podcast
Its going to be pushed off to 2023.
I'm hoping the game reveal is Cuphead 🙏 .
Even if it was ready, it'd be a waste of a good reveal that they could use as one of their big announcements in a future Direct.
@Longondo there’s at least dlc coming. With the name Delicious Last Course
And people are going to take this as a true leak, when it's legit just someone speculating about the game.
@Longondo The Cuphead DLC fits the 2.5 year timeline. Plus, the host of the game awards is the same guy the broke the news that Cuphead was available on the Playstation.
There will be a mario/zelda crossover
The legend of Peach: The plumber of time.
@Zeldawakening That's the thing people don't get. People who are seen as industry insiders can speculate as well, without leaking things. This article is just the man giving his take on if BotW 2 will be there, out of his own opinion, and not a leak, or something to take for certain, just like it's not certain if the game will be there or not.
I have already set a prediction that BotW 2 will be released on November 18, 2022 due to the nature of this being ambitious enough to qualify as a holiday title and the fact that the majority of Zelda releases take place in the month of November.
I'm not sure where to go about this. Having a huge amount of secrecy is painful, but effective. At the same time, it sets an unprecedented expectation level on the game.
I'll still take my chances at The Game Awards. Never know what might happen.
Breaking News: Journalist Makes Prediction
What’s that? A reasonable reservation? Sorry, can’t hear you over the sound of the hype train!
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Ah, Nate the Hate, the "insider" who acts like he knows everything while making milktoast predictions which sometimes turn out to be right.
Man, it must be really easy to be an "insider" in this undustry lol
@sleepinglion This is honestly barely even news. They also made a prediction that Final Fantasy XVI isn't ready, so it won't be there at TGA, but it's just a prediction, and it's not hard to garner that it might not happen at TGA, given that it hasn't happened at any other big event this year, despite the promised news. Like, I made the same prediction, so does that mean I'll be considered an "Industry insider" when TGA happens, and XVI is probably not there?
Where did these two come down on the Nintendo Switch Pro? Curious that was left out of the article.
“ Jeff Grubb has a relatively reliable track record and while these are just his "predictions" for the upcoming Game Awards show, he accurately predicted BOTW 2 would appear at Nintendo's E3 Direct ahead of the event.”
Did he also predict that Mario would be in the Super Smash Bros. Switch game? The man’s a genius!
All that being said, I probably wouldn’t bet too much on Nintendo revealing much if anything. The last several game awards shows were a bust in that regard, even though they were hyped up before hand.
@VoidofLight Agreed, amigo. I don't know the pressures of trying to keep a Nintendo news site going on slow news days, but it seems almost better not to run stories like this until there's actual news. This is rumor territory
@Euler Yeah, him predicting BotW 2 showing up at e3 is like anyone predicting that Mario is going to be the main protagonist of the next Mario game. It was obvious, given that Nintendo promised us news this year, and e3 is the biggest event for said news to appear. Not to mention as well, many others were predicting it before Jeff Grubb did.
Someone guessing something gets the news flair now? Interesting.
Hopefully we get a big reveal even if it isn't Zelda as there's hardly any AAA games announced for Switch. Ive got nothing to play on a new (to me) console - Where is Nintendo's big Holiday release this year?
This sounds more like speculation than actual insider knowledge.
@RandomNPC
Pokemon, Mario Party, and Metroid already released.
@westman98 played Pokemon on Gameboy and I'm not payingthat price for a HD paint job (it doesn't even have matchmaking fir online battles) Mario Party doesn't have voice chat which makes a party game pointless for me (don't have friends who play so would be dependent on random matchmaking and I hate gaming in silence) and I've completed Metroid Dread.
Guess it depends on whether you’re naive or pessimistic
We'll get it when we get it... Geez
Nate the Hate expects BotW2 to be at TGA? Well then it won't be
Nate didn't accurate reveal a higher priced tier, he accurately predicted it! (big difference)
To be honest, that big reveal might be Lord of the ring Golum. When I heard it would be revealed, I lost hope for Zelda
Still hoping nintendo shows someting big!
Remember BOTW were a Wii U Game from year 2016.
BOTW is 6 years old next year, so BOTW 2 reveal is highly likely.
The news today is that someone believes a rumor to maybe not be the truth.
Pokemon is the focus for Nintendo right now. It makes zero sense to distract us all with BotW2 news this side of Arceus launching. They've already taken a bit of a risk launching Arceus so close to Diamond/Pearl in my opinion, so absolutely no chance they take further risk showing us what we all know will be a better open world game in BotW2 before Arceus has been sold a while. (Arceus does look good, but we all know BotW2 will look better).
Game Awards reveal could be Sonic. It could be FF7 Remake Part 2. Both of those games fit perfectly well with the 2.5 years.
BotW2 at E3 seems the most likely scenario... but with Mario movie in the holidays and surely a new 2D Mario game planned for that same window... it's very unpredictable. That's before Donkey Kong is thrown into the mix. Could Nintendo really go with BotW2 and new Mario in Q4 2022? And if they are doing that... are they seriously not launching some sort of hardware revision too? Brand new Zelda and brand new Mario on such an old hardware is something that hasn't happened before... I don't believe it will happen now either.
I think some big games that have been announce for next year are lies anyway, just to keep the fans happy and keep the stock market price up.
I think BOTW2, Starfield and God of war Ragnarok are all 2023 releases
Wow. What a visionary. Me, non-journalist plebeian that I am, I was expecting a follow-up on 2025.
I also don't think BotW 2 will be at the Game Awards. I think we'll get something to do with the Mario movie and maybe a new trailer for Pokemon Legends Arceus (2022 is the first year in a long time Nintendo has released a game in January that's not a port/remaster so it needs promotion in December).
@Ventilator BotW launched in March 2017.
@Skunkfish Whoops, fixed!
I'm leaning towards Silk Song for that one reveal! I think these types of events as a Switch owner end up being great even if we get one weird third party (like last year's reveal of Ruined King)
BotW 2 is going to be a launch title for Nintendo's next console and I can't see Nintendo releasing a new console next year so 2023 would be my guess for it's release date.
Nintendo will give us more information regarding Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 at E3 2022, don't expect nothing for the game at 2021 Game Awards, Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 is gonna be a holiday 2022 game or release on Switch sucessor in 2023.
Nate's got a pretty good track record, so it's certainly a possibility. I also believe personally that BOTW 2 will launch March 3, 2023, 6 years to date and probably with the new Switch model to repeat the original's success
My prediction is everyone will be angry and disappointed regardless of what happens. There, I’m an industry insider, I’ve made the most accurate game industry prediction of 2021.
Why should I listen to some Jeff Grubbs?
@RandomNPC
Ok cool, but those were the big multi-million selling Nintendo games this holiday, whether you liked them or not.
BOTW2 Will be either on march or on October with new hardware, think it will show how rookie Furukawa is if he thinks he can get away without having a Zelda game transitioning hardware, it's either that or there are two Zelda's in development (BOTW2 and another one)
@westman98 so two remakes and a 6 hour 2d side scroller were Nintendo's killer AAA holiday games. Slow game year
@Lemonyoshi I don't think so next year is more likely Pokemon gen 9 as the holiday game no way Nintendo has that and BOTW 2 release too close to each they would delay Zelda for Pokemon to get the spotlight
This is just speculation, so really not any more than we already know. Speculation is fine, but the problem is some people will take this as gospel and get upset when it doesn't happen.
Me? I intentionally try to go into these things with an open mind and few expectations. The way, I'm (usually) pleasantly surprised when something good does come up.
Sounds like the game awards are a pass this year. Not shocking after last year
@RandomNPC
All those games sold very well (Pokemon did 6 million in launch week), so yes, they were indeed Nintendo's big killer holiday titles.
A broken clock (analog, of course) is right, twice a day.
@RandomNPC if the console is new to you surely you have nearly five year's worth of games to play?
2022 seems about right for the next Zelda.
I also believe that's when they'll release Prime 4, to capitalize on the 20th aniversary of the original game.
@BenAV If the game is coming in March 2022, and then a game awards reveal would probably make sense. But if the game is coming late in 2022 or later then it's way too early.
@stache13 Even if it were coming in March, would be much better in a January Direct if they had enough other stuff to justify it. It'll surely be a holiday game though, if it's not delayed even further.
Replace 'Game journalist' in the header with 'Everybody and their uncle' and voila; that is the actual news-value of this article.
@Otoemetry I don't buy old games at full price so have little interest in the Switches back catalogue. I bought it to play Metroid which I completed in a weekend and now have nothing to play on it
Oh my god do get over yourself.
@RandomNPC correction, you have tons of things to play on it, you just refuse to do so*
@Euler Jeff was full on the Switch Pro train wagon, and everytime it never got revealed he would always backtrack and say he meant something different than what he actually said.
The 'insiders' NLife keep calling on aren't insiders, just people making educated guesses and hoping something lands. They don't actually have any insider knowledge or access. But these articles always get a ton of clicks so sites won't stop spouting that belief.
@RandomNPC Mario Party Superstar, Pokémon Brilant Diamond e Shining Pearl and Metroid Dread are the holiday games for Switch this holiday season.
@Giancarlothomaz so a pretty miserable lineup really.
For comparison On xbox there's been:
Battlefield 2042
Cod Vanguard
Back 4 Blood
Forza 5
Halo Infinite
Psychonaughts 2
Most of which are also available to play for free for a few pound more than Nintendo charges to play N64 games.
I'm pretty new to Switch and so far I'm really underwhelmed and definitely have buyers remorse.
Wasn't Metroid Prime 4 rebooted 2.5 years ago? could it be Prime 4?
Well thanks for getting my hopes up. Whichever game journalist called this should give themselves an uppercut…
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