With tomorrow's launch of the Nintendo Switch OLED model, consumers will have the option of paying $50USD more (with regional equivalents) for a system with notable enhancements over the other models - an improved and larger screen, a new kickstand, an updated dock with an ethernet port, more internal memory etc. One thing that won't be improved, based on available evidence, is the Joy-Con controllers - as many can attest, that's a continual source of disappointment.
The issue of Joy-Con 'drift' and the fail rate of the controllers - in which the stick's inputs stop working accurately - has been a simmering topic since the Switch launched in 2017. It's led to class action lawsuits and a fair bit of pressure on Nintendo, and in Summer 2019 it emerged that repairs were starting to be offered for free, even outside warranty periods. It's not necessarily the case in every country and territory, but it does seem to be a relatively common policy that Nintendo deals with Joy-Con issues at no cost.
That's not enough to satisfy all advocacy groups, however, due to the ongoing argument that Nintendo is continuing to sell a product with known and consistent defects. Euroconsumers is a group that represents five national consumer organisations, and has issued a press release challenging Nintendo on its continuing sales of the existing Joy-Cons.
Below are some excerpts from the press release:
The new version of the Nintendo “Switch” console, the Switch OLED, expected on October 8th 2021, shows an unsolved technical problem with its controllers - an issue commonly called “Joy-Con Drift” - that prevents players from playing the game properly. Nintendo is quite aware of this flaw. Yet it still plans to roll out the new Switch with the old problem. Euroconsumers calls Nintendo to account.
... This flaw has previously been raised with Nintendo. Firstly in January 2020, Test Achats/Test Aankoop, Euroconsumers’ Belgian national organization, sent a letter of formal notice to Nintendo Europe GmbH calling on the company to repair all the defective products free of charge and to publicly communicate about the defect.
In January 2021, BEUC, the European umbrella group for 46 independent consumer organisations, launched an external alert to the CPC network about a widespread infringement with Union dimension of EU consumer law, related to the premature obsolescence of the Nintendo Switch.
On top of this EU action, two class actions have been launched in the US, and a Canadian firm has filed an application to begin a class action.
Nevertheless, Nintendo has taken no actions to remedy the flaw or alert consumers. It even issues a new Switch OLED with the exact same Joy-Con design, with the exact same inescapable defect. Meanwhile Nintendo keeps on putting a great deal of emphasis on the quality and versatility of the Joy-Con in its advertisements.
This early obsolescence is not only unfair and harmful to consumers, but also affects the environment, creating a pile of unnecessary and extremely polluting electronic waste.
Euroconsumers states it's sent a letter to Nintendo with four requests: to adequately inform consumers of drift and clarify an expected lifecycle on packaging; fully respect the legal product guarantee without the burden of proof or cost to consumers; provide clear contact details at Nintendo for resolving the Joy-Con issue; resolve the flaw to ensure a "more sustainable version of the controllers". Euroconsumers also makes clear that it'll participate in dialogue and testing with Nintendo.
Of course, there's been a lot of attention on Joy-Con controllers that has led to various formal complaints like this; Nintendo President Shuntaro Furukawa even issued an apology to investors in Summer 2020. Beyond some speculation at different points, however, there's little evidence to suggest a notable improvement in Joy-Con design or reliability in recent times.
Nintendo's approach to the issue has often been to say very little, and it's arguably said all it's going to pending any legal resolutions. With the OLED model arriving, however, Joy-Con drift is getting some renewed airtime.
It's also worth noting that Switch owners have come up multiple DIY Joy-Con fixes like this one, albeit this brings its own challenges and risks.
Let us know what you think of the Euroconsumer comments, and indeed the ongoing issue of Joy-Con 'drift'.
[source euroconsumers.org, via europeangaming.eu]
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They should be calling out the thumbstick manufacturer more so than Nintendo. It's popular to just pick out Ninty in this when all platforms suffer from the same crap thumbsticks.
Nothing seems to ever get fixed just pointing fingers. Strike at the heart of the matter.
the environmental aspect feels a bit tacked on (at least as presented here) but its in the right place, i think
Perhaps it's time Nintendo made the switch from analog to optical.
But I also am disappointed Nintendo stuck with Bluetooth 3.0 for the OLED model, which is almost more egregious of an oversight for the quality of wireless gameplay. It's long overdue that Nintendo upgrade to Bluetooth 4.0 at the very least, and ideally 5.0 for their next model.
Nintendo has sold over 200 million of those thumbsticks.
Do we have an estimate on how many of them experience this drift?
@Pod I have replaced my joycons 3 times and my girlfriend once due to joycon drift. So I believe it must be quite common.
It’s also the only controllers I’ve ever had these issues with
Removed - trolling/baiting
The new ones have a pad indented, and the traces inside do not scratch unless you force with a knife or a screwdriver. I doubt they will drift unless you intentionally do it (and people do this for likes)
The old ones on other hand, do drift a lot and it is not user's fault at all. The old ones deserve a free fix from Nintendo.
@DaniPooo
Rough. I've yet to encounter anything with my joycons after two years, but then I don't use the thumbticks very much.
And for the games where they're ideal, I usually pick up my pro controller anyway.
This whole joy con debacle has put a real damper on my enjoyment of the system overall. The quality and stability of the Switch itself has been disappointing. Can't tell you how many times games have crashed on me, how many times the joy-cons will just disconnect while playing in handheld mode, etc.
Nintendo is the one to blame they sell the product as their own.
They had every chance to fix it the problem.
This is just pure lazines.
I wont support this lazines.
I had soo much drift problems with the joycons it was anoying never had it with sonys controllers or from MS or even cheaper third party controllers.
@Primarina
https://mynintendonews.com/2021/07/06/nintendo-confirms-switch-oled-joy-cons-are-same-as-the-current-ones/
According to Nintendo they are.
@Primarina Joy Con Drift is real you Yo-Yo!
Dang y’all it ain’t even out yet. Put the pitchforks down.
Let's get the GoT "Shame Lady" and march the OLED switch down the street.
Nintendo has been stubbornly trucking along with these joy con. The OLED model was the perfect opportunity to finally release new, improved ones. They aren't doing that. They're not going to bother unless these lawsuits really pluck them clean.
@Ryu_Niiyama You need help!
❗I've had my Switch since July 2020 and have had no issues however, I mainly use a (Custom Blue and White) Pro Controller (off Etsy).
@LeighDapa Does not disprove anything!
@GamingDude800 um, your response was very odd and there isn’t much context beyond you seem very angry. So I’m just gonna back away slowly and ask that you please calm down.
I sent in four joycons to Nintendo and they fixed them and sent them back. A bit annoying, but wasn't too bad.
@Pokester99
Very small sample size for statistics, but I'm still shocked! :V
@Ryu_Niiyama The OLED Switch joycons have drifting issues!
@james_squared Yeah for 100 dollars which is more than buying new Joyvons!
I do wonder how high the failure rate is if nothing has come out of this besides free repairs. Remember how Nintendo permanently moved away from stick spinning minigames in Mario Party because of the lawsuits against them?
@GamingDude800 Again, it isn’t out “officially” yet, and you made a blanket statement. It isn’t as if everyone has gotten joycon drift (I have it on two pair out of the six pair I have owned so I am not discounting those that get it) but you are reacting like there is a 100% failure rate on a product that is not in hand yet. And shouting down anyone else that says otherwise. We have no idea if Nintendo has made further changes to the joycons for the OLED model. So I circle back to my original post.
@Primarina I try to usually give a three strikes policy because sometimes people get excited and keyboard bang or are young.
Drift is certainly real, but for my joy-cons, a blast of contact cleaner resolves it for months. For my Pro controller I recalibrated and it's perfectly fine now.
@GamingDude800
They didn't charge me. They even sent out pre-paid UPS labels. My only cost was time and packaging the items and taking them down to the UPS store to be shipped out.
I still have to point out.
My day one Switch Joy Con: no drift.
My day one Switch lite: no drift.
The legend of Zelda JoyCon I bought this year: no drift.
My day one PS4 DS, broken buttons and drifts.
My day one XBOX ONE S controller had a broken power port.
Maybe I am just lucky. But I have yet to see a Switch controller, that is handled with care, "drift". Sure, if you start abusing it, it will break. Just like anything will, really.
@Pokester99 It is also a major issue with Sony's controllers as well. Targeting just Nintendo still isn't fixing the core issues. My PS4 controllers have had more drift issues than my joycons, and the dualsense is often getting drift issues as well.
Every company for some reason is ordering these 'broken parts' along with continuing to give the shabby manufacturer business.
@SMH88 I agree, I always trusted in Nintendo hardware for durability, but I've sent in the Switch for repair already because the micro card slot kept ejecting the card, sent in 4 pairs of joycons for repair and keep telling my son to be gentle with his switch because it feels way to fragile.
@Pod I wonder as well, what percentage of joy-cons sold, have had the drift problem. Even it it is a small number, of course it’s still unacceptable. It’s a curious issue where it doesn’t happen to all of them.
With other analogue stick controllers with no drift issue, shouldn’t it be easy to fix?
Really could do with more information.
Someone took apart the Skyward Sword joycons and noticed that Nintendo has placed a square piece of foam underneath the stick that is supposed to eliminate drift. Maybe the OLED joycons are the same.
My mother in law's joy con sticks I've had to replace 3 times. Really easy cheap fix. I have put some thermal pads behind them (instead of card like the hack suggested) and have been working amazingly. I know we shouldn't have to do this but for me it's not the end of the world.
Just as an alternative opinion: Nintendo fixes this for free and has an incredibly fast turnaround - and much better than a home fix. I know it shouldn’t be a problem in the first place but they’re doing their due diligence, at least to a degree.
@sanderev what do you describe as ‘abusing it’?
in all honestly (and i got my joy con back in less than a week), i have no idea how Nintendo has gotten away with this at all. can you imagine if Microsoft controllers had this high of a fail rate, or even PlayStation? we'd be screaming bloody murder, regardless of their willingness to fix the issue. we'd be demanding a total redesign of the controllers at the very least lol
Joy-Con drift, destroying the environment since immemorial times.
@Pokester99 You can say the same for others in this comment section who haven't experienced Joycon drift. Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft all use the same thumbstick manufacturer and all are susceptible to the drift problem. Nintendo are the primary target but all we do is shake our fingers at them and don't do anything else about it. This also let's every other company off the hook as it's easy to just say it's solely Nintendo's fault or a Nintendo issue.
Don't get me wrong though. Nintendo is not in a position to be defended over this. Just in my mind only targeting them won't solve the grand picture of the issue. All the companies need to be hit for working with the shoddy manufacturer and they all need to stop getting away with it as it ends up screwing every end user at some point.
In regards to my personal drift issues. My day 1 PS4 controller runs fine. My newer blue dualshock 4 lasted 13 months, just enough to get past warranty. My day 1 switch joycon (gray pair on launch day) doesn't suffer drift. I bought the Splatoon set (salmon and green) and that arrived out of the box with drift. Returned them and the replacement (knock on wood) function fine after two years. My skyward sword joycon also have yet to have any issues.
Not had any specific issues with Xbox one controllers so far, but they get used a lot less than PS4 and Switch. Oh also had bad drift with the Wii U gamepad.
@Pod,
This is the whole issue with this problem, as there are people like you and myself that have had no issues whatsoever, and then you will get some on here who have had multiple issues with their joycon, so of course the people with issues will feel it's very common, where you and I are not so sure.
It would be useful to see how many pairs as a percentage out of the whole are affected, but at the moment it's anyone's guess, and down to the individuals view, based on their own personal experience.
@Beermonkey was your mother in law “abusing it”?
As it seems, some people just can’t believe that joycon drift exist because it hasn’t happened to them…. Or you have to either be a rough playing kid or I dunno…throwing the joycon against the wall!?!
There’s just no way you can get joycon drift by just playing switch games as they were intended. 🙄
@armondo36 Dualshock 4 and Dualsense have a high drift failure rate. They use the same manufacturer and suffer the same problems over time.
The crux of the matter is finding what actually triggers the issues in the first place as everyone seems to regard the issues differently to them personally.
@Ulysses
Wireless Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac)(*)
Bluetooth 4.1
https://www.nintendo.com/switch/tech-specs/
...?
Although the environmental impact of Joy Con drift is probably a miniscule part of overall human impact, remember kids (and adults), the environment isn't something 'over there' that we can address or ignore at our leisure. It is in all of us. If 'the environment' gets corrupted enough, we can all say goodbye.
@Pokester99 Yeah I understand that it's awful all round. Until we can get a proper consensus on what actually triggers the drift issue it's hard to discern why the Joycons have a more public failure rate. Maybe it's due to its smaller shell? I've yet to have any problems with Pro cons but have heard they are not free from the issue either.
In my professional opinion,
*fart noise
Nintendo are selling faulty hardware to their consumers and they should be called out for it
@XenoShaun
I think it might be as simple as the potentiometers in controllers gets higher precision for each console generation, older sticks simply didn't read the tinniest neutral position variations as sticks gets looser over time with usage
@johnvboy That’s fair. But I usually find that people who often say they’ve never experienced drift with their day 1 Switch, usually end with saying that they hardly use the joy-con and use a pro controller instead, or have multiple joycons in rotation. So in my view, you have less chance of getting drift. As there’s strong proof that it’s the contact pads in the sticks getting worn down.
For all we know, Nintendo fixed the drift but didn't acknowledge it for legal reasons.
@DaniPooo you've replaced you're girlfriend once? Shame on you 😂
They’re call joy-con drift before it’s even been released? Do we know they’re having the same problems yet?
I had drift issues with my original joy con's that came with the console but any of the new colours they have brought out over the last two years have been fine for me.... So far
@IronMan30
I actually think so. It doesn't seem to be as wide-spread as in 2017-2019. They also didn't ever mention that they actually fixed the bad antennas in the left joy cons. They just did a quite revision that was spotted by folks doing teardowns of newer joy-cons.
I purposely used my Switch Pro Controller to avoid drift issues with my joycons. Using Joycons as minimum as possible is not a great solution but what else can we do?
My Joy Cons never had the drift problem and I got the OG switch on release day in 2017. But ironically, the Pro Controller I also got had serious drift issues and Nintendo made me pay for a replacement. So, did I get a bad controller or does this extend to other controllers Nintendo is making as well?
I accept the fact that joy con drift is real but I haven't had any issues with my switch lite that ive had for over a year now.
Yeah… ALONG WITH NO PERFORMANCE UPGRADES😂
Three out of four for me. Electric WD-40 does the trick for me. I have to apply it about every 4 months. Irritating every time drift comes around.
Nintendo can get raked across the coals as much as possible on this one if I’d have my way. Apologize to their investors??! Ha! Apologize to the consumers and the fans you weenies!!
Hate to say but Nintendo have handled this terribly and they’re so tight they don’t want to spend any money fixing the issue or even properly admitting it’s real.
I have had 4 pairs that have experienced drift....
@Outspoken,
I do use mine a lot though, but this still does not clear the matter up.
@sanderev yeah you are just getting “lucky.” I know more people with a Switch who experienced joycon drift than not.
It is definitely a problem, and people claiming their joy cons works fine hurts the entire argument that Nintendo needs to fix this.
@ZeldaGoat hurts the argument? That comment actually hurts more than helps, I’ve had my day one launch joycons. One drifts while the other doesn’t, I’ve gone through like 5 Xbox remotes for random reasons(sticks break, crappy usb a charge port) not everyone has the issue. If everyone truly had the issue it would’ve been a huge deal, none of my family has mentioned drifts, there are more broken switches than broken joycons in my family 😂
Such shameful capitalist bs. It's so obviously a monetary decision. The profit outweighed the legal fees and exchanges etc, so they just decided not to invest in a solution. Companies do this disgusting stuff every day
I use a pro controller for my OG Switch on the TV now. I have not experienced any drift on my Switch lite. I never liked the Joycons. Both mine and my brother’s drift and we sent them to Nintendo. They started drifting a year later. As for the OLED only time will tell. We shall see.
@IronMan30 That makes sense, considering I had 5 joy-cons getting drift up until early 2020. Nothing since then.
@XenoShaun dualshock failure rates are NOWHERE NEAR the Switch lol
@Pod Still on my Day 1's, but I use my Pro controller whenever possible. For the past year however, I started(?) getting lazy and have been playing in bed, LOL. They're still holding up. But back at the Switch Preview Event in January 2017, I felt those Joy-Con thumbsticks and I was like, "Nope!" And I made it a point to pick up the Pro Controller ASAP, which happened one week after release.
@Pokester99 it's so weird. Nintendo is somehow the only company that would get this free pass. and i LOVE my Switch. it's like, "We can't stay mad at you, Nintendo"...lol remember, initially Nintendo wasn't planning to do ANYTHING to fix this, THEN they were charging people!
@XenoShaun Nah Nintendo deserve the heat they get because they're the ones selling them and doing nothing about it.
My day 1joycons were driving me mad with the drift on the left one. Though I bought a proper controller, I decided to try that cardboard trick from a few months ago, and the drift got fixed! So, try the fix before disposing the joycon or buying a new one.
I wonder if the universe would stop existing if someone doesn't mention joy con drift for more than 24 hours.
Ps5 controller has same issue, they'll never fix this problem
I have already purchased 4 pairs of joy con. All drifted after 2 to 3 months of use. Shame. Unplayable. Even eshop navigation is a struggle now, joy on drift always interfering witch touch controls.
As much as I love Nintendo - Euroconsumers are absolutely right. Nintendo not caring about Joycon Drift is disrespect to their customers at it's highest.
Can't hate Nintendo but they deserve it. It's heartbreaking behavior.
@Pod I’ve personally replaced sticks because of drift on 8 separate joycons. Both of mine, all 4 of my nephews and 2 of his best friends.
My joycons were less than 2 years old and hadn’t been used much, relative to my other console controllers (less than 500 hours according to games played times)
On the flipside I have only had drift on 2 other analogue sticks over 20 years and 10 consoles. Each of those were over 5 years old.
It’s a much worse problem.
Yeap joycon drift is real but so are the other drift from other consoles. Sometimes you just had to find your own fix for it. Even if Nintendo does fix it, there's no guaranteed the drift will be solve. As technology evolve and more features are implemented, so will the issues that came with them.
I finished Hollow Knight in handheld mode and I got drift in left thumbstick
Nintendo really deserves to pay for this, still selling a faulty joy-con design after FOUR years.
I've had my Switch since launch, and have 2 left cons that are drifting BAD. The skyward ones are still going strong though
How are we still allowing this from Nintendo?
@XenoShaun My Xbox360 controller lasted 8 years before failing. My first joycon failed in 6 months. If it's the manufacturer, then something has changed, recently.
48 HOURS!!!!……
is what it takes to send your problematic Joy-Con to Nintendo and receive a refurbished one!
fast, easy, convenient!
I owned my 3 pairs since 2017 and sent them for repair just this year so I’m a happy customer to have fully functional Joy-Cons
I have had 3 joycons drift and my fan stopped working. My original Gameboy, Gameboy pocket, Gameboy color, DS fat, DS Light, 3DS, 3DS XL, and 2DS XL all still work fine.
Just keep sending them to Nintendo to fix whenever it happens. They're paying for it in the amount of repairs they have to do for this one issue. Rest assured that when Nintendo eventually do stop support for the Switch, the stick modules are very cheap and reasonably easy to replace.
This is uncalled for and just laziness on Nintendo's part. I have 30+ year old NES controllers that still work so it's not like they can't make a quality controller. This would have been the perfect time to redesign the Joy-con and fix the problems. Shame on you Nintendo shame on you.
@Oish this works for their joy cons in the US at least but not their pro controllers which also get drift.
@WallyWest So it is fine for Sony and other controller sellers to do it? They are all equally at fault and should all be put under fire. Not just pick and choose, that won't solve anything.
@BloodNinja It certainly seems to be a more common thing since the Wii U / PS4 / Xbox One gen. Couldn't say what may or may not of changed, but thumbstick quality has gone down the pooper it seems across the board.
@armondo36 I have had more faults with Dualshock 4's than Switch. It's all about what you hear from who and who screams the loudest. Switch and Nintendo are top of the list due to the sheer unpredicted popularity of the Switch.
Again though, Nintendo are at fault, but so are Sony, and whoever else sells us crap from that manufacturer.
By joy-cons used to work nicely but now it’s almost unusable. I bought a wired controller for 20$ and it works but it be so much nicer to just have working controllers especially when they’ve been maintained.
@Pokester99 One of my Joy-Con had the Nintendo repair over a year ago and it has yet to start drifting again.
@XenoShaun Yeah, people are always talking about drift with the PS and Xbox controllers. Everyone is always talking about how they had to replace those controllers multiple times just like the Joycons...right?
No, I didn't think so. The Joycons are objectively worse.
@Pod I've 3 pairs...2 of which came with gen1 NSWs bnew, and the 3rd pair was a replacement. My 2 original pairs had significant drift issue on both left joycons, with slight drift in one of the right joycons. The 3rd newer pair is still running good. As pointed out, just using my own experience, that's a good number.
To add, I have 2 procons bought at the same time I got the NSWs so wear and tear is already immediately distributed...My kid use the joycons. Even with workload distribution (and I play more hrs on the NSW), still got the drift on the joycons.
You're very lucky with your joycons.
@Zag_Man I like what you said on making parts modular! I'm game with that.
I like the idea of buying an easily swappable component that's going to fail eventually due to normal wear and tear. Like batteries.
@RasandeRose I'm talking about Joy-Con controllers, which are still sitting at Bluetooth 3.0. I have yet to see specific specs of the OLED Joy-Cons but I am assuming it is the same.
After reading a bit, there are many lucky joycon owners without issues and I'm happy you're joycons are perfectly working.
I think there needs to be a way to be more objective with this drifting issue or any other defect issue with the joycons. "Abuse" use is too vague, "took care" of the joycons is too vague.
There needs to be an officially released data on the number of gaming hours the analog sticks on the joycons will work optimally before wear and tear starts to affect performance. This can then be the baseline to determine if everyone's joycons are really defective or not.
Let's say, hypothetically, we have the official data that the sticks are rated for 500hrs and/or 10k clicks whichever comes first...then we have a better way to determine defects. Any drifting under 500hrs with less the 10k clicks is a defect...joycons above 500hrs or more than 10k clicks of use are fair game.
@Outspoken For example; not using a case while transporting the Switch. Not connecting the Joy-Con to the console when not in use. Not placing the console (with Joy-Con) in the dock or case when not in used. Placing heavy objects on the cases or controllers when not in use.
My PS4 / XBOX ONE controllers where always on the couch or on a table with stuff around them when not in use, which meant they broke.
Also very aggressive movement of the sticks themselves increase wear and tear.
In the end I see it all as the user's fault. However, Nintendo should make it easier to replace the sticks. And sell replacement sticks.
99% of the Switch users don't complain about Joy-Con drift, it's the very vocal 1%. And people who don't have drift ofcourse rarely say that they don't. Well, I for one am trying to be that 0,0001% of the users.
@Crono1973 So because it's less common but still the same fault, it's fine? And yes I have known people complain about drift and returning and replacing Dualsenses.
I don't even know why people can even argue this. They all should be dealt with not just one part of it targeted. And the source should be in question. It shouldn't just be Nintendo because it's fault is more publicly spoken about (on a Nintendo focused site at that) and allow every other company that may to a lesser extent still get away with it. Nintendo shouldn't get a pass. Sony shouldn't get a pass. The terrible manufacturers that are allowed to produce these broken parts should not get a pass.
@UltimateOtaku91
What you never replaced a girlfriend!.
Haven't had a drift problem in at least 2 years since the last Joy-Cons I bought. These folk need to relax. There's MORE important ***** going on in the world than 'joy-con drift'.
@Outspoken honestly don't know my mother in law's playing style but not sure playing Animal Crossing is the most intense game on joy cons... Both my son and I have had no issues with our ones (but having said that we lost our first Switch consoles in a fire last year so his new one is about 1yr old and my one about 6months old.) The ones that were killed were both day 1, used a hell of a lot, my son's was second hand and both didn't drift. Luck of the draw really.
I have sent off my neon red left 3 times, my blue left 2 times and my right red once to be fixed (I bought new ones to cover me whilst the other one got fixed and so i could play 4 player Mario Party)
Good thing the Nintendo UK are fixing them for free, but they should have sorted this issue for this new iteration
@Crockin,
Some evidence please, as we still do not know how widespread the problem is, or what Nintendo has done, or their reasons behind it, you could be right, but with no data, we just do not know.
@DaniPooo
Also, replacing your girlfriend because of a console peripheral malfunctioning seems a bit drastic!
@Pokester99
Maybe it’s a hardware problem that’s hard to fix and they’re trying to fix it. You can blast them for not fixing it there are people who are as skilled as the hardware guys who try to fix it and can’t. And Nintendo will try to fix it for free if you send them your joy cons.
@JudgeMethos You heard him folks, JudgeMethos has had no problem so everyone needs to stop talking about this! After all, if the most important Nintendo customer has had no trouble with the Joycons, then the complaints are obviously not valid.
Two quick comments.
1. Personally, I have only had one negligible issue with drift other than once where it went away and may have been nothing more than a connection issue. Then again, I don't play much and only adults use my Switch.
2. There was an article yesterday where Nintendo noted it was making continual improvements on the Joy-Cons and those have been implemented in those packed in with the OLED, those being sold now, and those built into the Lite model. This would be very much in line with W. Edwards Deming's Total Quality Management which was embraced by post-war Japan in the early 1950s (but did not get noticed by American/Western enterprises until the mid/late 1980s).
The people who file these frivolous lawsuits are such entitled pieces of trash who are desperate to make whatever money they can. I have no respect for them.
@Crono1973 in 2 years, dude. I've had drift twice but not in 2 years. Get a grip. You obviously are a troll and disregarded the rest of my statement. Calm down🙄
@JudgeMethos Of course I am a troll, I disagree with you.
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