I doubt that we are looking at significantly higher Switch 2 prices because of tariffs. Nintendo already does a lot of their manufacturing in Vietnam, as well as China, as a result of previous trade wars, and they've yet to be mentioned in connection with proposed tariffs. Just ship those units to the US for sale instead of Chinese-made ones, and it's all good.
If the worst came to the worst, and Vietnam attracted heavy tariffs too, they could set up a final production line in the US similar to how Sony have one for the PS5 in Japan; it's basically built out of components that are shipped in as kits and pretty much entirely by robots to keep costs down. Sure, prices would still go up, but not by nearly as much as the tariffs suggest.
The main issue is that it would take months to set up and the US effectively gets locked out of the market in the meantime, unless people are prepared to pay sky-high prices. I suspect that's why Nintendo might want to be waiting until the dust has settled to launch the console.
The possibility that it might all just be hot air from a guy who would say anything to get elected has crossed my mind too. Still, take it seriously but not literally, as the saying goes.
Will it be a few years before Switch 2 production moves entirely out of China and into Vietnam if they don’t have expensive tariffs imposed onto them too?
As for the “final production line in the US” part, is it like where the kits with all the parts get shipped into the US and then they just build them with robots? It appears that they would need to find a plant to open their US final production plant.
@Matt_Barber The tariff is on anything outside of the U.S., so they would need to open up a U.S. manufacturing plant. And it wouldn't matter if they ship the components separately and assemble them in the U.S., the components would be subject to the tariffs too. So I don't see any way around the tariff issue, the U.S. might just be screwed here.
@Matt_Barber The tariff is on anything outside of the U.S., so they would need to open up a U.S. manufacturing plant. And it wouldn't matter if they ship the components separately and assemble them in the U.S., the components would be subject to the tariffs too. So I don't see any way around the tariff issue, the U.S. might just be screwed here.
At that point one may just end up importing from Canada if it’s cheaper there than in the US
But we’re still not sure how they will end up implementing tariffs
For what it's worth, tariffs were mentioned for Canada. Vietnam still looks like a better bet.
I just can't take what's been said at face value as it seems incoherent, pointless and the numbers and affected countries change with every speech. As before, you can take it seriously but you shouldn't be taking it literally.
Ironically the failure of the Wii U was one of the most important periods for Nintendo. With 3rd party support all but abandoned they learned to become self sufficient. Look at the quality of Wii U ports that have found success today, these are games developed over a decade ago! The lessons learned from Wii U should go a long way toward them nailing the marketing, hardware launch and launch software lineup for the Switch 2.
I believe the Switch has provided Nintendo with an unprecedented amount of consumer data. The portable nature of the Switch has allowed them to better track our gaming habits, locations, preferences (docked vs undocked), the Switch can detect other devices in the home such as cell phones, home consoles. They’ve collected massive data on our gaming habits at home and abroad. I think this will hopefully be integrated into the Switch 2 ecosystem. Yes , Switch 2 will be more powerful but I think Nintendo will put heavy emphasis into reinforcing this is a VIDEO GAME console pure and simple. If you want to open Notepad , download Windows and spend 30 mins adjusting sliders before you even start a game …then there’s lots of options there. If you just want a system that delivers nothing but games , on the go or on your TV, with games like Mario Kart, Pokémon, Zelda …offered exclusively in an ecosystem of fun and joy for you and your family!! That’s the Switch appeal. That’s a lot of value and it’s the most cost friendly of all the consoles. You see those Nintendo commercials, they aren’t selling specs and explosions , they’re selling gaming moments for you and the fam. This is a big reason why Nintendo isn’t competing with the handheld PC market, there’s no one else offering that kind of value proposition.
@Ryu_Niiyama
lol…aren’t we all?? I give Switch 2 one month on the market before we start hearing “Switch 2 was originally delayed to launch with 2 SKUs, only for Nintendo to cancel the higher end “Pro” system due to manufacturer dispute over parts” and we’ll all be reading it all right here on NL for the years to come.
@Rainz I'd give it half a month before they start passing around rumors that there's a Switch 3- or a Switch 2 OLED model being released in 2026 or something like that.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
@VoidofLight
Great points that they absolutely need to nail with Switch successor launch. The one thing Nintendo will never do is sell their hardware at a loss. It’s just not in their DNA and it’s not in their business model. With that in mind, they’re working with NVIDIA…I’d imagine NVIDIA will give Nintendo a great deal on chip costs. I’m sure NVIDIA are laughing to the bank seeing how many units Nintendo sold using their chip from 2014. I do hope we get a decently powered Nintendo system that should run most current gen games . Imagine if somehow scaled down it could actually run GTA6! 🤯
I’d say it’s almost a guarantee Nintendo will offer multiple versions of the Switch 2. I’d say a Lite version will be released within 2 years of Switch 2 launch. Switch Lite! The Switch that doesn’t switch!
@Rainz I mean Nintendo has taken a loss on hardware in the past. When the 3DS sold poorly for the first year or so, Nintendo permanently reduced the price of the console- eating a massive loss in hardware sales in order to get more people on-board and buying their software.
Most companies eat pretty huge losses on console manufacturing, since they hope by offering a cheaper price than what it takes to manufacture- they will in turn make that money back by selling software. It's why so many companies don't just make consoles- but also make games alongside consoles.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
3DS was definitely a special case. Japan had just been rocked by a massive earthquake which impacted a lot of the operations in Japan. It was priced too high and Nintendo learned why…Launch software! Once they dropped the price and with Mario Kart 7 the system too off and became a best seller. The never planned to sell at a loss but the conditions required them too. They will never plan to take a loss on their hardware is how I should have phrased it. It’s really a massive part of their profits. The fact Switch hasn’t seen a price cut is criminal but astute business management on Nintendo’s part.
@NintendoDad
I’d say it’s almost a guarantee Nintendo will offer multiple versions of the Switch 2. I’d say a Lite version will be released within 2 years of Switch 2 launch. Switch Lite! The Switch that doesn’t switch!
I hope this is the case.
For me it sure is different than when I was anxiously reading up on rumours of the Nintendo NX.
For the NX rumours I was so ready for whatever was NeXt. I was playing the same games over and over again on the Wii U since I had already gotten all the Wii U games I thought we'd want. Back then I thought . . . whatever the NX ends up being, I'm ready to move on. LOL.
For the Switch 2, it's different for me . . . First, I'm not quite done with the Switch. Still a few games I want to finish, and a few games I want to get and play. And secondly, IMHO the Switch has been a Blockbuster platform for the Big N, like the Wii. I'm anxious to see what is next, and have my fingers crossed that it doesn't turn out like the Wii U, as far as units sold.
@Rainz I think the key thing about Switch Lite was that a brand new Pokemon generation was happening that didn't come to 3DS. If Pokemon Gen 10 is Switch 2 only, I think the Switch Lite variant of Switch 2 would arrive close to the release date of Gen 10.
For what it's worth, tariffs were mentioned for Canada. Vietnam still looks like a better bet.
I just can't take what's been said at face value as it seems incoherent, pointless and the numbers and affected countries change with every speech. As before, you can take it seriously but you shouldn't be taking it literally.
We might just have to wait until more news on tariffs comes up
@Grumblevolcano Pretty much a snowball's chance in hell that the Gen 10 games are coming to Switch 1. Game Freak seems to very much like using new generation titles to experiment with the new console's features, the new gen titles seem to be designed around whatever the new console does better (examples: GS were the first games in full color, DP heavily utilized the DS' touch screen, XY transitioned the series to 3D graphics, SwSh started making more open areas like the Wild Area and the two DLC areas). Gen 10 will most likely follow suit with this, it'll be something designed around the Switch 2's capabilities and utilize whatever features the Switch 2 has. Now Game Freak has broken a lot of patterns lately but this is one pattern I don't think will ever be broken because it has a logical reason to exist. The new generation is going to be much more appealing if it's on a new console (and indeed, the first new generation on the console sells better than the second, compare DP's sales to BW's, XY's sales to SM's sales, SwSh's sales to SV's, the first game always sells better), and in turn the new generation Pokemon game becomes a system seller for the new hardware. It's mutually beneficial to both Pokemon and Nintendo. I absolutely think Gen 10 will be Switch 2 exclusive and they'll try to make it feel like a convincing leap over SV and something that we can tell will only run on Switch 2 (they might not succeed because of the series' recent issues, but they'll certainly try).
This thing turns out to be what all the most recent leaks are showing: It's just a faster Switch 1.
And in this saturated market, we quickly find out, again, that all the great games in the world can't sell Nintendo hardware that blends into the crowd.
And in this saturated market, we quickly find out, again, that all the great games in the world can't sell Nintendo hardware that blends into the crowd.
I would be more concerned if it did blend in with the crowd. But fundamentally, the whole Switch family including Switch 2 will remain the most polished and well known portable console and hybrid for a while. Steam Deck is still niche and not as well known or polished. Whatever Sony is making doesn't exist yet. The other ones on the market currently are even less well known. Switch 2 won't have this advantage forever but hopefully they will sell as many as they can while they are still definitely not blending in with the crowd. I do worry about Nintendo keeping up momentum though if good competitors arise; perhaps the next generation will need to be shorter. Unless Nintendo manages to make the number of continuously selling evergreen games they did this gen.
This may prove unpopular here, but I genuinely do just want a more powerful Switch. I am still playing my Switch daily, have tons of games to still check out, love my Pro controller and N64 online pad, use my amiibos still, etc. I just want it to perform better, that's all I actually need. That, and full backwards compatibility, the games, controllers, amiibo, all that. It all needs to carry forward. If they do those two things correctly, and because I already know their first party output will be stellar, I'm all in, day one, full stop.
Whatever Sony is making doesn't exist yet. The other ones on the market currently are even less well known. Switch 2 won't have this advantage forever but hopefully they will sell as many as they can while they are still definitely not blending in with the crowd.
It’s also possible Sony scraps the idea of a handheld, which could make it an easier advantage for Nintendo in the handheld landscape, but it doesn’t look like Nintendo is trying to compete with the likes of Steam Deck, ROG Ally or even the upcoming Lenovo handheld if that. They’ll do fine for years before actual competition comes in.
@FishyS
My point is that it does seem to be blending in with the crowd, or at least well on the road to it.
I guess your description of the competitors is somewhat accurate, but we're forgetting the Switch 2 isn't even out yet. It might not be out until next Summer or Fall... what is the competition going to look like in 6 months' time? 9 months? Sony will be nearly a year closer to launching a true handheld again, and you know that sucker is gonna be more powerful than the Switch 2... so then we're only like 2 years in with the Switch 2 and already we're staring down the barrel of a Sony handheld that beats it in power.
Not a position I'd want to be in.
I think they're in serious danger of repeating the Wii cycle here. Just gotta say it.
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