Topic: Pokémon Sun & Moon - Discussion & Speculation

... Isn't Groudon always a ground type?

Minor correction, Groudon is always a ground type, it just gains the fire type after becoming Primal Groudon.

Yeah, made a typo/small mistake. But basically, Groudon goes from being Ground to Fire/Ground when it goes Primal. So perhaps Solgaleo and Lunala could get a type switch too.

Groudon was the pokemon that I always felt should have been fire type. It's just that a fire / ground dual type would have gotten stomped even worse by Kyogre.

So have we seen any conclusive evidence that Pokemon from previous generations will be able to be found in the wild before the post game?

Salamence and Gengar were seen in the trailer. However, those two were clearly wild battles due to the lack of a trainer in the background, and I sincerely doubt you can find those two in the wild. I think it's more likely that they were used for the purposes of the trailer. It wouldn't be the first time they've done that.

@IceClimbers The recent trend has been a melting pot of previous generations, so I don't see why not. X&Y in particular had fantastic availability.

Gens 3 and 4 were really more of the exception in a way. Gen 2, 5 (at least in the sequels), and 6 all had pretty significant inclusions of previous generations.

As for wild Gengar and Salamence, I doubt that those would be wild battles, but that's happened before in Gengar's case. Gen 4 allowed you to find wild Gengar in the Rotom house if you had a GBA Pokemon title in your DS.

We don't really know if every battle will have the trainer visible, but we do know that those videos were likely just dev trickery... They usually put these impossible battle scenarios in their trailers.

@IceClimbers I think it was in one of the starter reveal videos, where GameExplain spotted a Meowth in the overworld.

It may not be conclusive evidence that they can be found in the wild but I would say it's safe to assume so.

@IceClimbers We've seen plenty of ''old-gen'' Pokémon in the trailers by now; Meowth was in it, Slowpoke, Luvdisc and Corsola were in the latest trailer. That hotel from the concept art was decorated with ''old-gen'' water Pokémon. Therefore I think it's safe to assume that you can find older Pokémon as well. The Pokédex is split up in four parts this time, so I really doubt they're able to fill all of that with just new Pokémon.

There was also horsea statues in the first trailer.

Here's a picture of the supposed leaked final evolution of the starters. Keep in mind that they could be fake though, many claim the same thing already and are probably fake too.

http://imgur.com/WepUN4u

Those look well made.

Although the fire and water ones look a bit too gendered, for starter Pokemon.

The internet would have a field day with that Water starter. But we do kinda need a mermaid Pokemon.

@roy130390 Those are fake.

Those look terrible to me. I am willing to put money down that those are fake.

Yeah, I'm not buying that those are real. Too much like an attempt to be 'cool' rather than something Game Freak would make.

@Meowpheel Yeah, I thought the same about them, however mega swampert and meganium also look a bit gendered in my opinion, not as much as this water type though.

@Octane They probably are but I can't assure anything.

@DefHalan I think the grass type looks great and while the others aren't appealing to me they are good designs in my opinion. The fire type reminds me of mega swampert because of the body and as Meowpheel said, the water one is too gendered for my taste.

@roy130390 I think ot is mostly the Fire evolution that I have a problem with. It seems really lazy. Just throw on some muscles and make it bigger. Reminds me a lot of Embor, who I also didn't like that much lol

Not to mention it's yet another fire fighting starter

About meganium, I don't really see it being too gendered.

@DefHalan I also dislike emboar, but his shiny colors are quite good in my opinion though. Then again, with charizard X you get the awesome blue flames with black skin, but I prefer charizard Y specially in his shiny version. So much contradiction lol.

@Meowpheel Maybe it's because of the tone of green and pink they used with meganium, but in comparison wi.th the other grass starters I do see it gendered. However, this water starter is in a whole new level similar to lopunny and milotic. I just wish the final evolution of the owl ends looking similar to this, I really liked it lol.