Note: Having heard (finally!) about Pikmin 4, we've updated and added to this article (first published back in June). Enjoy!
The media cycle that exists around video games these days can be quite punishing. After all, if you announce a game before it's ready, and then realise that it needs a lot more work, and that release date you just told everyone definitely isn't going to happen, then what do you do?
Do you make another announcement, and risk making the same mistake with a new release date? Do you vaguely gesture at a release window and hope that people won't get annoyed? Or do you just stay quiet, and hope that no one notices until you're ready to share the news?
Plenty of studios take the first and second options, but plenty more take the last one, and stay in video game limbo until they're 100% ready to tell people when the game is coming out. Those are the games we're talking about today — from Hollow Knight: Silksong to Outer Wilds, here are all the games we haven't heard from in some time, and all the information we know about them so far.
Games We Haven't Heard From In A While...
Metroid Prime 4
What is it?
A sequel in the Metroid Prime series, the beloved action-adventure games starring everyone's favourite bounty hunter, Samus Aran.
What do we know so far?
Quite a lot, and somehow, nothing at all. We have a logo and a banner, and we know that it has been shuffled around from studio to studio, beginning at Bandai Namco, then being entirely scrapped and given to original Metroid Prime studio, Retro. Aside from that, it's all just speculation, formed around Retro's hiring practices, Switch Pro rumours, COVID delays, and blind hope.
Is it coming to Switch?
Well, you'd bloody hope so.
What's the release date?
We guessed at a 2022/2023 release, but the development has been pretty messy, with all the hiring and pandemic-ing and scrapping the entire project and starting over, so who knows?
Why should we be excited?
Because Metroid Prime is one of the greatest game serieses of all time, and because Metroid Dread was really, really good.
Anything else we should know?
- There are rumours that the environmental work has been outsourced
- The team includes an ex-DreamWorks artist, an ex-EA Art Director, an ex-Halo Character Modeller, and the lead designer of Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze — though who knows if they're all working on Metroid Prime 4
- In 2019, around half the development team from Metroid Prime 3 were still at Retro Studios
- Amazon "leaked" a release date for the game: 31st December 2019 (and also, 2030). We're assuming it's not either of those
- It's been over 1,200 days since the delay was announced
- Nintendo is still saying that the release date is "TBA" as recently as the 8th November, 2022
How likely is it to be released in 2023?
Goooooood question. If it's a 2023 release, it'll be post-Tears of the Kingdom, and if speculation is to be believed, perhaps that means it could come alongside new Switch hardware. Wouldn't Metroid Prime 4 look nice on a shiny new screen?
We'd put the likelihood of a Holiday 2023 launch at a 6/10.
Genshin Impact
What is it?
Genshin Impact is a hugely popular open-world action-RPG that was mostly compared to Breath of the Wild when it was first announced, but has made its own mark on games, with over $4 billion in revenue. It has a massive cast of characters, and a huge fan base, and it's free-to-play, making its money from in-game purchases.
What do we know so far?
Well, it's been "coming to Switch" since 2020, but it's been out on mobile, PC, and PS4 since 2020, and PS5 since 2021. The Switch release date is still TBA.
People were really upset about it being a Zelda: BOTW clone when it released, with one guy even smashing his PS4 in rage (weird choice). We weren't sure ourselves if it counted as inspiration or plagiarism... but does it matter, really? It's definitely spun off into its own thing by now!
The latest news is that it's "still coming to Switch," as of May 2022.
Is it coming to Switch?
Apparently.
What's the release date?
TBA.
Why should we be excited?
It's a BOTW-like game with a huge budget. Why wouldn't you be excited for it on Switch?
Anything else we should know?
- The game has over 60 million monthly players
- There are gacha mechanics, which have been labelled as "predatory" by a few critics
- It's hugely popular in China
- It's a party-based game, with four party slots for your choice of characters
How likely is it to be released in 2023?
We really haven't heard much about the Switch development of Genshin Impact, so your guess is as good as ours. Plus, they're making enough money off the other versions that they don't really need to rush it. But we can imagine that a port of such a massive game is going to take a while, and be really tricky.
We'll put this one at a 5/10.
Pikmin 4
What is it?
A fourth game in the cult-favourite series that's all about enslaving living onions and trying in vain to stop them being eaten and falling in lava.
What do we know so far?
Shigeru Miyamoto said it was "close to completion" in 2015(!) and again in 2016, he said "we're working on [Pikmin 4]" but that it kept getting bumped down on Nintendo's list of priorities. When grilled again in 2017, he simply said "it is progressing". In 2020, we wrote a bunch of theories on what had happened to it, five years after the announcement.
And then, finally, in September 2022, we got a confirmation from Miyamoto himself that Pikmin 4 is coming to the Nintendo Switch in 2023!
Is it coming to Switch?
It's probably only coming to Switch.
What's the release date?
2023! Probably later in the year, since the one teaser trailer didn't have much to show us.
Why should we be excited?
Do you really need a reason to be excited about Pikmin? They're tiny, cute, and stupid, and the games have wonderfully evocative music.
Anything else we should know?
You can buy Pikmin 4 merch at the Nintendo NYC Store.
How likely is it to be released in 2023?
We would say 10/10, but... well. Who knows. Something could go wrong! We'll say 9/10, just in case.
Outer Wilds
What is it?
A fantastically-successful, multi-award-winning game about [REDACTED] and [REDACTED]. It's a sort of... narrative Metroidvania? Sort of a timeloop? Sort of science fiction? All you need to know is that it's brilliant, and any more information might dip into spoiler territory.
What do we know so far?
Not a lot, really. Obviously, the game is out on other platforms, so we know the entire plot, we just don't know what's up with its Switch release. The Nintendo eShop page says "TBD" for now, and it hasn't even been ESRB rated yet. Worrying signs.
The latest news was in July 2022, in which Mobius Digital simply told us:
"You did not collectively hallucinate our announcement of Outer Wilds for the Nintendo Switch. It's possible that we were a bit over-optimistic on the time frame. At this point, it's possible that we just fundamentally misunderstand the Gregorian calendar."
Is it coming to Switch?
Apparently! But it's already out on everything else, if you don't want to wait any longer.
What's the release date?
Your guess is as good as ours. But if they thought it would be ready for Summer 2021, it surely can't be that far off...? Right????????
Why should we be excited?
Because it's really, really good. And we want to be able to play it in bed.
Anything else we should know?
There's also DLC, called Echoes of the Eye, which we haven't played yet (because we're waiting for the Switch version, of course). Echoes of the Eye came out in September 2021, so we don't know if it'll be included with the Switch version or not.
How likely is it to be released in 2023?
Uhhhhhhh. Well... a year is a long time. But we thought it would definitely be out this year. We can only assume that they're wrangling with the Switch's tech... or waiting for an upgrade to the Switch Pro, maybe? Who knows. Let's say 6/10.
Hollow Knight: Silksong
What is it?
The much-awaited sequel to the beloved Hollow Knight, a Metroidvania-Soulslike with adorable bugs. In Silksong, you'll play as Hornet, the Princess-Protector of Hallownest.
What do we know so far?
It's packed with all-new content, of course — new lands, new powers, new bugs, new beasts, new secrets. And new protagonist, of course! We've even seen a sneak peek of some of the new characters, got a hint at the new healing mechanics, watched some gameplay, and we know it's been in the works since at least February 2019, when it was announced.
The latest news is that Team Cherry appear to have promised the big dogs at Xbox that it'll be out before the middle of 2023, because it was shown off at an Xbox showcase that said that all of the featured games would be out in the next 12 months. Except they promised that in June, so that means it'll be out within the next seven months. Exciting!
Is it coming to Switch?
Absolutely! It was a console exclusive! Although who knows if that's true any more!!!
What's the release date?
That's the million-Geo question, isn't it? It seems like it'll be before July 2023, but that's not much to go on.
Why should we be excited?
Hollow Knight got a 9/10 from us, and we said that it's "one of the finest adventures you can have on Nintendo Switch."
Anything else we should know?
In May 2022, Team Cherry said that "it can't be too much longer, surely!" We're trying not to get our hopes up, but it's definitely looking very polished.
How likely is it to be released in 2023?
Very. Unless it's released in December 2022, but we think that's unlikely. Let's say 9/10, because, well, we're too scared to get our hopes up again.
Advance Wars 1 + 2: Re-Boot Camp
What is it?
A two-in-one remake of the original Game Boy Advance turn-based strategy games, Advance Wars and Advance Wars 2.
What do we know so far?
- It's being made by Shantae developer WayForward
- It was originally due for release on December 3rd, 2021
- Then it was delayed to April 2022
- Then it was delayed indefinitely in March 2022 because of "recent world events" — i.e., Russia's invasion of Ukraine
- There was scheduled maintenance on the game in August 2022, which is odd, since the game is definitely not out
- It hasn't been cancelled, but the release date is still "TBA"
Is it coming to Switch?
Yep! ...Eventually!
What's the release date?
TBA. Maybe they're waiting for some kind of resolution to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, but that seems short-sighted.
Why should we be excited?
It's a classic strategy series we've been hoping to see return for years.
Anything else we should know?
It will have online support, with up to 4 players supported.
It's already fully playable — one lucky Switch player got to play the first few campaigns early, when their pre-loaded version of the game turned into the full game upon what was supposed to be the game's launch in April 2022. Of course, Nintendo shut that down faster than you could say "owned", and all footage has been taken down.
It's not the first time that Advance Wars has fallen foul of "world events", either. The original Advance Wars came out in North America on September 10, 2001 — the day before the 9/11 attacks. It was then delayed in Europe until January, 2022, which is still a much shorter time than this delay.
How likely is it to be released in 2023?
This one's hard to pin down. If Nintendo is waiting for world events to become less unprecedently awful, then they may be waiting indefinitely.
But the game is finished, and was a month out from release.
We'd put this one at an 8/10.
Grezzo's Mystery Medieval Game
What is it?
We literally only have the words "medieval" and "stylish" to go on. And maybe "action".
What do we know so far?
Grezzo is Nintendo's external Zelda-remake development studio — they were responsible for the Link's Awakening remake, and both Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask on 3DS. Apparently, now they're working on their own project. Here's how they described it on their careers site:
"The approach to the game’s design will be “medieval” and “stylish.” It won’t be photorealistic, but takes elements from reality and puts a design twist on them. The UI designer will be for HUD, menus, and such."
In the job description for a "Battle Planner", they go into more detail, stating that they want someone with "experience in creating action games" and "creating battles with enemies and bosses", which sounds like perhaps an action-RPG.
Is it coming to Switch?
No idea. It's relatively likely, though, given their close relationship with Nintendo.
What's the release date?
We don't even know the title, so... who knows!
Why should we be excited?
Grezzo has an excellent track record, even if most of their games are Nintendo remakes and ports. Their own creations include Ever Oasis and StreetPass Garden.
Anything else we should know?
Grezzo's last project was helping out with the planning and development for the Miitopia remake in 2021, and the studio itself is run by Mana series creator Koichi Ishii as the CEO. Their last full release was the Link's Awakening remake on Switch in 2019.
How likely is it to be released in 2023?
We'd say zero chance of that, given that we don't have a title. We might get an announcement in 2023, though!
Give us your theories, your rumours, your pessimistic and optimistic thoughts in the comments below!
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In order to keep myself from being depressed or one of those people in the comments whining about Metroid Prime 4, I'll expect literally none of these to be in the direct.
In fact, I'll take it a step further. I'm not expecting ANY of these to release EVER. That'll keep me from being disappointed.
I expect no first party Nintendo games at other showcases (Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope is technically a Ubisoft game) but third party games are fair game. As for a Direct, I'm starting to doubt there will be one.
I don't think we will see anything on both Silksong or Metroid Prime 4.
I really do hope I'm wrong though because the wait feels like an eternity.
In order: Yes. No. No. No.
I don’t think Prime 4 will be a Switch game, or if it is it’ll be the Switch’s swan song game and launch alongside the Switch 2 version. Doesn’t have the same appeal as a Zelda but it’d still be a good poster child for the next system at launch especially if the visual upgrades are substantial. It’s taken this long for it to come they might as well save it.
Bayonetta 3 is a must surely. As for anything else, anything could happen.
Lmao that Bayonetta 3 bullet list is funny when you see all the updates over the years compiled together.
We will see these games whenever we see them. I've sort of stopped caring about them now due to them taking so long but that's not to say I'm not looking forward to them because I am.
Let's go Pikmin 4!
Here's my pessimistic prediction: Metroid Prime 4 and Retro Studios are in development hell and the studio will soon close along with the cancelled Prime 4.
Pikmin 4 will not release on Nintendo Switch given we already got Pikmin 3 Deluxe. Nintendo probably even fought against putting resources into porting it to Switch. I don't think the higher ups want to commit resources to what is essentially Miyamoto's obscure pet project, so it gets put on the back burner, and Miyamoto himself is busy with theme parks and movies.
We might get a Pikmin animation, but no games for the foreseeable future. I wish Pikmin was bigger, but it's unfortunately very, very niche.
Today's Xenoblade 3 trailer makes me more convinced there won't be a June Direct. The September 2017 Direct gave us a look at the different Titans in Xenoblade 2 in a somewhat similar way.
So I'd guess Outer Wilds and Sports Story ends up in either an Indie World or shadow drop announcement, Bayonetta 3 ends up being a standalone trailer around August, Prime 4 and Pikmin 4 end up being games used to market new Switch hardware and Grezzo's game appears in a September or February Direct.
Silksong I could see appear at a Geoff Keighley event, maybe Game Awards.
Metroid Prime easily wins the poll, but I have no expectations that we’ll see it. Literally none. It doesn’t even cross my mind anymore. It’ll get here when it gets here, and my money is on it being a “Switch 2” title regardless.
The one thing that I truly want for Switch is an achievements/trophy equivalent. Again, no chance at all but that’s what I want. I’m fresh out of current games that I want to play so I’d replay some if I had an incentive to do so. And before people say that fun should be the objective, I literally get fun out of the challenge of unlocking trophies. So… I’ll just nip that in the bud there 😂
I suppose we'll find out next week.
Did you say silksong? Silk song? SIIIIIIILKKK SOOOOONG! SIIIILLLK SOOONG! (You hear the voice run into the distance, screaming silk song)
We will see all of these, along with Mario Kart 9, a new Kid Icarus, new Hogan's Alley and Star Fox.
I would expect Metroid Prime HD or Trilogy before Metroid Prime 4.
The Bayonetta 3 bullet points was a telenovela worth of headlines, I was gripped the entire way through.
It's hard to know how these kinds of things will pan out until it happens (as boring of an answer as that is) but for my money, I'd say we'll get big bits of news of Bayonetta 3, Sports Story, Outer Wilds and maybe Pikmin 4 if we're lucky. We may get a re-reveal for MP4 but considering how the biggest bits of news surrounding that has been the hiring of staff, I'm not holding my breath.
I mean, whatever. Bayo 3 I'm looking forward to, but the footage they showed last time was, uh, rough, and not quite at the level of the spectacular Bayo 2. Not giving up on it, though: Bayo 2 and Astral Chain are my two Platinum games on Switch and they're both amazing.
Metroid Prime 4 I'm obviously looking forward to but, um, and this will sound sacrilegious coming from a guy with a Super Metroid avatar, but I never actually played the other Prime games. So maybe re-release those first?
I expect we'll get a date for Bayonetta 3 soon, regardless of whether there is a Direct or not.
To be perfectly honest, Pikmin 4 is the only one of these I'd likely buy at launch, but I've given up hoping to hear more about it.
I'm really hoping we get a new release date for Advance Wars soon.
I am not even looking for those games at all. 🤨
I found some upcoming kids games mostly from play-asia without E3 event or Nintendo Direct.
A proper Fire Emblem would be nice. Hint hint.
I’m wondering what happened to Finding Paradise, since it’s been out on steam for 5 years already?…
Pikmin 4. Yes. Letsa go. Yes
@Grumblevolcano Totally with you. I thought the XC3 trailer drop was basically confirmation there's no Direct. Otherwise, that would have been for the direct.
Of course that makes Nintendo the only main company not participating in #NotE3 in some way, unless twitter posts count as participation. (Plus Ubi who announced they'll do a show later in the year.)
@Beaucine GASP blasphemy!
Yeah, you should try the Prime games out once you get the chance. I’ve played through the first one a dozen times, such an amazing game, very atmospheric. Try it without a guide!
@KateGray Why didn't anyone tell me before now that this was a real Shin Megami Tensei game?!
I am going full-on pessimistic for this potential Nintendo Direct:
-There will be no MP4
-There will be no Mario
-There will be no Genshin
-There will be no Goldeneye
-There will be no Banjo
-There will be no Kazooie
-There will be no Red Bull Wings
-There will be no New Wave Race
-There will only be more N64 Controllers and Pokemon News (14 new games to announce but they're all Sword and Shield reskins)
That is all. Xbox wins baby.
Edit: There will be no Nintendon’t Direct
No. there is no silk song yo
Hollow Knight Silksong, Pikmin 4 e Metroid Prime 4 is a collective delirum, Bayonetta 3 is problaby the octobre release.
No. Probably. I dunno.
To modify what I consider a perfect line of poetry, "At this rate, we'll have more luck playing pick-up sticks with our butt cheeks than
we will getting a flight out of here by daybreakany of these games releasing this year."If you know what movie this is from, we can be friends.
I feel like Bayonetta 3 (most likely) followed by Silk Song
(could happen) are the only even slightly plausible ones from this list.
Starving to death in pikmin 3 already traumatized me enough, so I'm avoiding pikmin 4 even if it does magically come out.
I doubt Nintendo is gonna do a showcase, maybe in a week or two.
If they do, my one and single hope is a new Switch. I love my OLED model, but man, the hardware limitations are starting to have too much of an impact.
It’s like anything that’s not 2D just runs so poorly on the system, that I can play it better on my phone.
It sucks! Gives us a new version already.
No word we are getting a new Direct yet.
Nintendo is probably not doing anything this month. We might need to wait until September for another direct. I don't think they have anything else to announce for the summer. Bayonetta is likely Q4 if I had to guess or delayed to next year.
Can we just move past from the pandemic already.
Otherwise, E3 has been canned since this thing began in 2020. Are we going to have an E3 in 2023 or even at all in-person anymore?
I think all the pessimistic comments forgot one of the most pessimistic outlooks-there will be no direct. On a serious note I hope Nintendo gives us something new to look forward to.
@ChromaticDracula didn’t even have to look up the quote. Planes trains and automobiles. Great movie.
I'm wondering when we're going to hear about Advance Wars 1+2 Re-boot Camp again.
Pure Vaporware as far as im concern, with only 2 or 3 exceptions
@JGruns Took your advice! I will send you 5 Vbucks as a reward in your inbox. You should receive it between the times of now and never.
Xbox Cloud wins baby!!
I saw this headline and hastily assumed Nintendo actually announced an incoming Direct! Ah well… 😔
Hopefully they give us something, in the ol’ E3 spirit. There’s far too many games to play already for me to be overly concerned, though.
@NEStalgia So this is what it's come to has it, guessing what might be in a Direct, if we get a Direct? OMG
If Metroid Prime 4 has reasons to explore other than missile upgrades and health and ammo i don't need then that's what I'm most excited for. It needs better rewards or completely new weapons that aren't the arm cannon. For a 3d game it feels like a sci fi Kings Field only you have the same weapon all game, no leveling up, no magic and no inventory. I've tried all 3 and finished 2 of them, I really want to like them too.
@TexanBanjo But there's the mobile pikmin game, I have a feeling that one will make more money than any other pikmin, so it looks to me that Nintendo really care about pikmin and happily put money and resources into the franchise. Maybe they don't need a pikmin 4 if the mobile game is there? We want a pikmin 4 but it might not make sense to Nintendo to make it just yet.
I have a confession to make - I never cared for Hollow Knight, no matter how many people told me how good it is. I just didnt. But looking at that Hornet girl knitting around with her silk really makes me wanna play that sequel. Looks outstanding.
So does Bayonetta 3, sadly I cant get myself to pick Bayonetta 2 back up because that child with his crazy necklace was just too annoying for me to handle, but I think theres a good chance we will get a lot closer to Bayonetta 3 and Silksong with this upcoming direct.
Also, didnt Retro Studios say Metroid Prime HD Collection is ready to go and Nintendo is just holding it back for whenever? I think now is the time to get people back in the mood for the franchise.
Edit: Screw it, I am switching my profile picture to Hornet.
All I need is some Bushiden news and then I'll be good.
@rjejr Yup. We don't even need bingo cards anymore. We'll just burn them in protest.
looks like there is not gonna be any Nintendo Direct.
The only game I am interested in out of this list is Pikmin 4. Starting to think it has completely restarted development at this point though. It was teased by Miyamoto years ago as being pretty far in development and I haven't heard anything about it since.
I expect bayo and silksong news... But not in a direct
Hopefully they give us something, in the ol’ E3 spirit.
@Teksetter Well-put. There is a certain carnival atmosphere to proper multi-platform events that I feel is worth preserving, even experienced remotely.
I'm beginning to wonder if Nintendo is naturally disinclined to hold events during E3, if they were always doing this out of obligation. They do like to announce things in their own way and time. Of course, one should then ask if they have the same perspective on the Tokyo Game Show.
We'll find out soon, one way or the other. I do imagine, though, that things will grow rather angst-ridden and unpleasant around here if they "snub" our June expectations...
I’m one of the few that wants to see Sports Story most of out of this bunch (if only because I don’t believe we’ll see Prime 4 or Pikmin 4 soon). Loved Golf Story. 9.5/10 game for me.
That said, I’ll acknowledge Silksong too. After all, I feel like Hollow Knight is a 10/10. (Fun fact for me too: it’s the only video game I’ve ever completed while flying in an airplane) For some strange reason, I’ve just had so little hype for the game. I don’t know if it’s the delays or if I just have this feeling that it won’t live up to the first game or what, but I’ve been somewhat cautious with the game. Of course, I felt the same about Axiom Verge 2 and I actually liked the second one better, so I could be wrong, but that’s how I feel.
I'm not banking on any of em to be honest. So it'll be a nice surprise if we see any of them 😉
Although Silksong was officially announced just over 3 years ago (Feb 2019) we’ve actually been waiting much much longer. Initially this was a Kickstarter tier reward to the original Kickstarter campaign way back in 2014 and was meant to be DLC.
It has been my most anticipated game for SO long now. Wishing Team Cherry well on getting over the line. Hopefully an update soon.
Kid Icarus... 😭 Please, please... 🥺
I expect Nintendo to announce the closure of Retro Studios, without any mention of Metroid, Starfox, or F-Zero; allowing those franchises to remain forgotten. I’m serious. Retro hasn’t done anything in over 7 years. They are not the same studio from the year 2002. StarFox’s on-rails gameplay is not in-fashion and needs major reinventing. F-Zero while beloved has been replaced by MarioKart.
There's no Direct! Stop spreading lies, nintendolife!!
I never thought a Direct would happen so close before an upcoming release, which would be Strikers this week...but after, I think that's possible. I've been thinking next week would be the Direct, either Tuesday the 14th or Thursday the 16th. I would like to see Metroid Prime 4 since Retro teased with their updated banner, but after whatever is being done with previous entries in the Prime Series...whether that be just Prime remade or a remaster of the Trilogy.
That logo of MP 4 is obviously not the final design.
Removed - trolling/baiting
The joke's gonna end up being on us when they decide to not do a Direct any time in the next week
Delay it until later in the summer like they did in 2020.
Maybe Silksong, if we’re lucky.
Turns out non-events don’t get me hyped like events do :/
I’m convinced their won’t be one around not-E3/SGF they have a pretty solid line up for 2022 already assuming no slippage; Xenonlade 3, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, New Pokémon. I think we’ll get one later in the year to promote those.
I won't hold my breath to hear anything about Metroid Prime 4, but it's high time, if you ask me
@Drydoctor That’s WAY out of proportion. I too think they are being too quiet at the moment (and the Zelda delay really hurts in that regard). To me it all points to them preparing for the next system. They want to avoid ever launching a console without a steady stream of games again, but as a result towards the end of Switch‘s life cycle software support begins to be anaemic. I too hate it, but Nintendo is not “on life support” by any means. Switch keeps selling with still a good chance to become their bestselling system, the catalog keeps selling. Any good game they put out eventually hits 10m, which are astonishing numbers, way higher than in the Wii days.
I think there will be a direct soonish but I think the big announcements will be a Zelda rerelease and Game Boy games added to NSO. They've been trying to release a Zelda related game every year, BOTW2 has been delayed, porting over Wind Waker or Twilight Princess HD would be an easy way to keep up the yearly release schedule. As for the Game Boy games, we've only got one more previously announced N64 game to go and to be totally honest that system didn't have a particularly massive library so, while I expect we'll continue to get occasional N64 drops, I think bringing in Game Boy and GBA games would be an easier way to stretch out the drip feed. I think Pokemon Snap will be added to N64 NSO, and then they'll bring in the Game Boy games.
I'm probably in the minority here, but I hope Metroid Prime 4, the next Grezzo game and Pikmin 4 are for the next Nintendo console. I still have so many Switch games to play and at this point the console really is starting to creak. Pikmin and Metroid Prime 4 are both games that would heavily benefit from more advanced hardware.
@HotGoomba you're playing 4D reverse psychology chess, I like it
@NEStalgia There's now even more fuel to the fire of no June Direct, Nintendo revealed a Three Hopes trailer with demo shadow drop.
@Grumblevolcano I thought it was pretty apparent last week when the new Pokemon trailer dropped that we weren't getting a direct. I honestly think the reasoning is because they are currently in the midst of a hostile takeover via Elon Musk.
@Grumblevolcano Yeah. I mean, it's Nintendo, whenever you think they'll zig, they unzip the background and do a can-can. But short of Nintendo trolling us, they're pretty much going out of their way to tell us there's no Direct. They're taking E3 week to just make a bunch of twitter drops.
It's the most depressing possible outcome short of Nintendo being bought by Comcast.
Sony's at war with E3. Nintendo's at war with Keighley. Can we get anyone that these companies aren't at political war with to actually coordinate an event with all of them? Maybe China can host it. All the companies love China!
One thing is for sure, we will get new hardware announced. Possibly a mention of next gen.
@Jokerwolf OLED Lite HAS to drop soon.
Not new hardware overall. They're not going to replace OLED less than a year into it's well-selling life, or announce 2023 hardware before holiday sales of current models. But OLED Lite is so obvious and conspicuously missing.
@NEStalgia I think they are going to announce a next gen system and that it will be fully backwards compatible with no re-lease date. That makes way more sense and will instill confidence to the board and investors without hurting any seasonal sales. They have done this in the past and have lied about the length of console generations since the NES.
@NEStalgia Nintendo is not being bought by Comcast. Best case scenario is a bidding war between Tencent and PIF. 🤑
@Jokerwolf Announcing a "no release date" next gen system now will risk sales though. If they're doing 2023, and I'm still thinking that's too soon for them, but if they are they won't announce until 2023. They're selling well, they're not in a position requiring defensiveness to the board. It's not a WiiU to "NX" situation they had to reveal their hand early even at the cost of current hardware sales. They control the narrative, not the investors right now.
At the most they'll give an "Of course, we are always working on the next hardware iteration with a focus on providing unique Nintendo-like surprises, but have nothing to announce at this time." response to remind investors they're working on new hardware but not in a business cycle to put it forward. That's more for the AGM later in the month than anything public facing, now.
Saying anything now will cannibalize their commanding holiday sales as people wait for a "Switch 2" or buy a PSXB "in the mean-time." Announcing new product announces the end of the current product. That's why Apple still does the "Available today!" thing.
@rjejr Sony should buy Nintendo!
@NEStalgia People who are still waiting to get a Switch are likely never getting one, it will not hurt sales in any meaningful way.
@Jokerwolf if you don't think announcing a product is obsolete months before the holiday rush hurts sales, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Whether or not they're doing 2023 switch 2, they're not announcing it in 2022. That's just plain stupidity, and Nintendo isn't that stupid. And I still find it unlikely they're not going to milk an OLED Lite. It's money on the table. Nintendo doesn't leave money on the table. So you might get the monkey's paw version of your "new hardware" this summer in that form. But if you're holding out for a switch 2 announcement in the next 6 months, I think you'll be disappointed. You were expecting one in 2021, too....
@NEStalgia I wasn't expecting anything in 2021, you have mistaken me for someone else lol. 6 years is a realistic lifespan for the switch and the final 1.5 - 2 years we will see many cross gen titles. It is likely why Prime 4 has been delayed so much and same for BotW 2, they want next gen system sellers.
@NEStalgia Sony won't buy Nintendo, Sony is only interested in the Western market these days, not Japan.
So, I just went down a list of the top 50 video game companies in the world looking for a western 1 for Sony to buy and all that's left is Sony, Nintendo and MS and all the ones it owns. 🤑
@rjejr There's always Embracer....
@Jokerwolf Maybe, I could have sworn it was you Anyway, yeah, maybe 6 years is enough, at least for normal tech companies, but for Nintendo, I'm still not sure they've milked all they can from this one, so it would seem strange for them to change now. The OLED isn't even a year old, and sales are still very strong while their competition is more hamstrung by chip shortages and logistics issues. The chip shortage should go on into 2024 according to Intel, so launching a new hardware platform while their old platform is selling so well, at a time when their competitors are still hamstrung on supply (and would be in a position to eclipse them in supply if Nintendo plunges in during the shortages). If this were the before times, then sure they'd have launched something now. But currently, there's atypical forces in play that make it non-ideal to launch even if the original plan was to do so. Whether they do or not, I still say there's a 0% chance of an announcement beyond "we're always looking at the next hardware" before 12/26/2022. You can tag me and laugh at me publicly if I'm wrong, but I'm putting that one in writing now.
@NintendoWife
Hopefully they have learned their lesson which is launch with something major,have a great first year of releases slated and keep engaging and promoting 3rd party partners. As you said Wii really didn’t move huge units of very many titles, by comparison Switch is a goldmine for publishers.
@IronMan30
Ahh Hogans Ally…..that was one of a handful of arcade games I could do some serious damage on with one quarter when I was a kid. Given the current environment I wouldn’t expect any gun games from Nintendo anytime soon….hell we may never get Advance Wars unless Vlad keels over…..if those are the new PC rules in gaming we may never see a new COD game again.
@QuickSilver88
I think Nintendo have learned that lesson. That’s why they never even considered a Mario Odyssey 2 or next Mario Kart for Switch. With Wii they made the mistake to „waste“ everything on the outgoing platform, leaving them empty handed for Wii U. Skyward Sword was a huge mistake - not the game, I love it, but still releasing it on Wii. It didn’t sell because Wii was practically dead at that point and should have been used to attract people to Wii U instead. Actually a very good counter-example to the damn quote of „a delayed game being good eventually“! Yeah good game, but there is such a thing as „too late“.
I’m sure the above (and many more) games are all lined up already for whenever the next system needs to launch. They know they‘ll need Mario at launch and Mario Kart within the first year. Zelda with its notorious delays is turning into a curious case again: Nintendo surely wishes they’d never announced BOTW2 for Switch, in the first place. Would be a no-brainer as a system seller.
@NEStalgia "Embracer"
I expect a lot from you, but even for you that's good. 👍
I think it's more likely that PIF buys Sony though. And you know I'm right. 🤑
@CANOEberry
I do imagine, though, that things will grow rather angst-ridden and unpleasant around here if they "snub" our June expectations...
No doubt there! I think disappointment too easily turns to anger on this lovely internet we share.
Staying silent next week really would be a break with tradition, though, and a huge letdown for us millions of fans in the West.
I sincerely hope Monday they'll announce a Direct for later in the week and set peoples' minds at ease.
As for the Tokyo Game Show, I'm no scholar on that topic, but Nintendo cancelling out of that would seem outrageous - they'd probably have to cancel the show if the undisputed king of the hill didn't show up! I imagine the hancho's in Kyoto would feel like they are betraying their many loyal fans in Japan.
I need to try golf story again. I bought it cuz of the hype & it was really boring. I deleted it to make room on my microSD card, but I need go redownload it, & give it another try.
I hate all the "console exclusive" talk for silk song. At least be honest & put "timed exclusive" in there. I fell for that & bought the 1st on switch, & was pissed when it came to game pass shortly after i started it (i didn't get around to playing it for a long time, which would likely be the case with the sequel, so I'll wait for a game pass release, maybe).
Anyone who pushed a switch pro (at all), or a switch successor in 2022, should never be trusted again, IMO. Remember who said that, so u know who is trustworthy. 😜
I just want a port of Wildermyth.
Metroid prime 4: I think we will get what is known as a 'sizzle reel' like some minor gameplay footage with a summer 2024 release window
BOTW 2: another sizzle reel with a winter 2023 release window
Pikmin 4: they will announce it is in development, but no release date
What I am most interested in seeing in the not E3 E3 direct is more info possibly release dates for many of the titles revealed in last year's not E3 E3 direct like portal 1 and 2, no man's sky, advance wars 1+2 reboot camp, the strong rumored wind waker HD remake, an announcement of Mario Odyssey 2.
And from my personal wishlist of I hope they will say it but it's nearly impossible are the reveals of fallout 3, fallout New Vegas, Madden coming to switch, the switch has no professional football (NFL) titles outside of retro bowl), I would also adore if it was announced that titles from the marvel vs Capcom fighting series and titles like eternal darkness and killer instinct being ported to switch.
@NEStalgia No I would never tag you or laugh or anything like that I'm way cooler and nicer than that lol.
I just know that Nintendo's lied every single console generation they've had since the first Nintendo about how long their generations gonna last and how long are they gonna continue to support the old systems. As long as the next generation system is fully backwards compatible I don't think many people will be that upset about them announcing something. Honestly them announcing the fact that it's backwards compatible is all that they need to do to sell it.
I'm wondering what happened to the localization of Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2 on Switch...
I mean the last time we heard something about Sports Story was December of 2019. 2019!!! That's three years ago, and we FINALLY get a release coming very soon. Point being, don't give up hope on any of these games.
Let's not forget Beyond Good & Evil 2: https://www.nintendolife.com/games/nintendo-switch/beyond_good_and_evil_2
I saw some development footage a couple years ago and was so excited it would come to Switch, I even told a buddy of mine to keep an eye out for it because it's likely to be really good.
Then it just vanished.
@KateGray You could add the Lara Croft double pack to that list...
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/10/tomb-raider-will-finally-make-its-switch-debut-with-two-lara-croft-titles-in-2022
There is also detective Pikachu 2
Still waiting on Yo-Kai Watch 4...
As for why Genshin on the Switch is MIA, I'm going to say that the two main reasons are as followed;
1: Genshin is built on Unity, which while easy to port to many systems, good luck on optimizing it! If the PS4 has trouble running it at times, heaven forbid the Switch would have a good time with it!
2: Sony and/or Tencent is stonewalling the port for as long as possible. Sony has invested heavily into the game, with them helping MiHoYo (HoyoVerse) to make a native port for the PS5 and allowing the developers to put Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn into the game as a free character. Meanwhile, Tencent has massive grudge against MiHoYo for turning down an offer to buy them. With the sucess of Honkai and Genshin, it's possible they are using their influence with Nintendo (Since they partnered to help release the Switch in Mainline China) to keep the game off the platform. (Last one is a bit tinfoiled hat of mine, but I feel like that's what's happening.)
Sword of the Vagrant could've been on this list, it only recently got an eShop page with a December 1st release date, and it was supposed to come out in June! I wonder what happened between then and now?
I'm still waiting on the Rage of the Dragons game which was suppose to be out by now. Genshin Impact was garbage and shouldn't even be mention here, Silksong is still coming, Metroid Prime 4 is vaporware, Outer Wilds is still coming, Pikmin 4 just recently got announced so not sure why that's even mention here, Advance Wars 1+2 may still be coming, not sure why Nintendo even bother since everyone would be happy enough for a new Advance Wars 3 instead. That Gollum game got delay and may not even be coming to Switch. Freedom Planet 2 got delay to 2023, Front Mission 2 & 3 are coming in 2023, the Dragon Quest III 2D HD remake still had not gotten a platform yet (may even not be coming to Switch probably), Gylt is coming to Switch next year and so are the 3 Intellivision Amico games (Dolphin Quest, Moon Patrol: The Milky Way Chronicle, Cloudy Mountain, no Cornhole though), that ugly and buggy Prince of Persia 2 remake is now cancelled and is not even plan for Switch anyways, Beyond Good and Evil 2 doesn't even exist, and the GoldenEye 007 remake is not coming, Nintendo fool us all. The newly revamped ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition for Switch which is 10 times better than the garbage ARK: Survival Evolved game from 2018 had been digitally released but the promised physical edition of that game of won't be out any time soon, likely never.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Advance Wars? I thought not. It's not a story Nintendo would tell you about. It's a player legend.
I wish Nintendo would just release Advance Wars 1+2. It was foolish of them to tie their delay to Russia/Ukraine, and nobody truly would have cared if they moved forward with the initial release, yes even despite Olaf and Blue Moon being a version of Russia.
Isn't Advance Wars 1 & 2 basically finished? Surely we see it in 2023? I'm also going for Genshin and Silksong in 2023. But that is all.
They are handling these for the successor to the Switch.
Mark my words.
They will launch WHENEVER THEY DO in the next year or so with a full house of games + backwards compatibility.
boOOOOOoom.
Time to update the Silksong info? It's coming to Xbox Game Pass day one it was announced this Summer, and also, the Xbox showcase only showed games that would release in the coming 12 months, so unless something happens, it WILL be out before July 2023.
I am so sick of Nintendo's games around Advance Wars. Just let me buy the fracking game!
Advance wars would think that would come out next year as it is all ready completed
Metroid 4 is a no way that's coming out next year.
With the new zelda coming out early next year they might push some other games back.
Pikmin 4 not sure when that will be out.
@Serpenterror Well... Rage of the Dragons can be released in 202... 2024, at minimum. Why? Well... I can explain reasons in 4 words - QUByte Interactive, Breakers Collection.
Genshin impact on my ps5 feels great to play at 60fps with nearly instant load times the switch version wouldn't run anywhere near as well
At a guess all mentioned games are looking to a avoid being cyber-mon’ed.
Well... Where are these missing games? - Braid: Anniversary Edition(scheduled for release in 2021, still no news about it), Alien Hominid Invasion(announced in 2020, release date - TBA), Home Sweet Home(horror game; announced in 2018! Nintendo Switch version is not even mentioned on the game's official site!)...
I was waiting for Evil Dead: The Game to come out on switch. After it was delayed, and waiting a few months, I went ahead and bought a PS5 and bought the game on sale as well.
I’ve given up on MP4. Dread was a beautiful consolation prize without us knowing that that’s what it was, which didn’t detract from how good it ended up being, but in the end, I think MP4 is dead in the water.
Would be ironic if it gets the Dread treatment sixteen years later.
I'd add one more game to that list, Monolith Soft's fantasy game they've been teasing since just after XC2. I was pretty sure that was going to come out before XC3 but clearly that wasn't the case. Since it's never officially been revealed (only concept art), it's likely going to release on the Switch successor console instead
tried out genshin impact for a bit. my impression was very positive at first. It is similar to botw in some respects but it unique enough to stand on its own. Plays a bit like an anime show which is great imo. However, my phone started to heat up pretty fast and I gave up after a few days in. From what I have seen tho, the game is very predatory in regard to its gacha system. While it has a pity system that does carry over, it seems to take ages to gather in-game currency as the game is pretty stingy. NGL I don't want to play a game and maybe pull an ultra rare unit once every few months, lmao.
Genshin barely worked on PS4 and you can notice the dramatic performance upgrade on PS5, so that probably answers all the questions regarding the Switch port.
Another one m.i.a. is that Kingdom Come:Deliverance port. It probably would’ve looked like garbage given the Switch’s GPU and RAM limitations but it would be nice to have handheld nonetheless.
They should just tweak the Advanced Wars Reboot. Instead of using people use Mutants and Robots for opposing forces and maybe set the time period in the future or the setting on a different planet. That way it won't be touching on current events.
Hey you forgot about the Switch port of Kingdom Come Deliverance!
That was announced almost 18 months ago
Feel like Advance Wars won’t ever come out and will be one of those interesting lost and cancelled games that we see a full version of in the future.
I still really want Genshin on Switch, because even if the hardware can’t fully handle it, it’ll be better than mobile (probably). I feel like when it is released, it won’t be announced, it’ll just be an “oh by the way” alongside some big update.
Also I like how you can choose all 7 on the poll.
Of the two, Metroid Prime 4 and Genshin Impact are the ones I am looking forward to the most. And while I can see the similarities of Genshin Impact to Breath of the Wild, I personally think it's better than BOTW, if not the entire Zelda series as a whole.
The reason why I say that is because there is so much more replay value than in Zelda. Once you beat a Zelda game, there's basically no reason to play it again. But Genshin Impact frequently comes out with new content, such as events and characters, to encourage people to come back to play.
Plus, with Sumeru now released, and the main part of it's corresponding Archon Quest also completely released, the game and it's map are almost halfway complete at this point. Teyvat will basically be bigger than BOTW's/Age of Calamity's Hyrule, and the story, lore, and character roster being far bigger for the latter game.
In many ways, I consider Genshin Impact to be the Oreo to Zelda's Hydrox. Both Oreo and Hydrox are similar cookies, but Oreo is the knockoff. Yet, being sweeter and better at absorbing milk than the Hydrox, Oreo became the more popular cookie, and now you find more packages of Oreos in the stores than you do Hydrox.
In the same way, there are many things that I think Genshin Impact does better than Zelda, especially Breath of the Wild. The replay value is certainly there, and the story is only halfway-finished, with the other half being set to release in the coming years.
Plus, there is an upcoming anime (made by Ufotable, the studio behind the Demon Slayer anime; and the visuals from the concept trailer are gorgeous), whereas the last animated Zelda series was from the 1980s, made by the now-defunct DIC Entertainment, and now the subject of ridicule for it's cheesy storytelling and characterization.
So for those who criticize Genshin Impact for being a knockoff of Zelda, I will vehemently disagree. I think it is so much better than Zelda. I never thought I would say it, since I grew up on Zelda, but I get more enjoyment out of Genshin Impact than most of the entire Zelda franchise at this point.
I can only hope that Tears of the Kingdom will scratch that itch that most other entries in the series fail to do. Only Twilight Princess was capable of that. But for now, Genshin Impact satisfies me in ways that Zelda cannot. Sorry if this offends people, but I truly do believe this.
This article is missing about five hundred million thousand promised M2 ports.
I don’t understand how Square-Enix had so much to show for Dragon Quest III 2D-HD when it was first announced yet here we sit 1.5 years later with zero updates and still not even a simple confirmation of what consoles it will even be on…
Genshin Impact wouldn't run well on the Switch, as I see other people have mentioned. On PS4 when you load the game in front of the Adventurer's Guild desk, it takes about 15 seconds for Katherine to pop up behind the desk, another few seconds for the textures to pop on the building, another few moments for the texture to pop up on the clothes of your character, and some more moments for the rest of the UI to finish loading on the screen. There are some occasional incidents with frame rate drops, the entire desk not appearing for 12 seconds, and the glider texture not finished rendering even after you've been playing for a few minutes.
Don't get me wrong I was loving Genshin Impact, the game is still very fun and still very playable, but take it from someone who has played on PS4 Pro for a year and half: You DON'T want to play this game on the Switch.
Every time I run across these little moments, which don't necessarily hurt the gameplay, it always reminds me that the Switch wouldn't be able to properly this game because the PS4 Pro can barely run this game. If the Switch is all you have then okay I understand, but if you have a choice play it on the PS4 or the PC. I love my Switch, but I don't want to see this game on it.
given how long Metroid Prime 4 is taking to develop, i expect the game to be a launch title for Switch sucessor, also Nintendo will wait for the conflict on Ukraine to end to release Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp.
I think/hope Metroid won’t be a Prime game anymore. With all the difficulties they’ve had, a fresh start in 3D would make more sense.
I gave up waiting for genshin for the switch (yall keep on forgetting you can play it on a phone why are you only bringing up ps4) i waited for so long that im getting a new laptop.
Silksong is without a doubt coming out in 2023
Surprised you think Advanced Wars will be out next year. Pootin' isn't going to admit defeat and get on with his day in that time frame. We can always hope he has an 'accident' though.
@msvt Your words are too dumb to mark. There will be no Switch 2 until at least 2024.
How about Good-Feel's Goemon-like medieval Japanese game? I've been waiting for that since it was first mentioned.
Come on Silksong, please, something news about it.
But Team Cherry has been so quiet, even on Twitter last thing was just a re-tweet in September saying Silksong is coming to Playstation (so much for a Switch exclusive). Last actual tweet was December 2019.
The virtue signaling and waiting pretty much lost Nintendo a sale from me. I just replayed the original versions of Advance Wars 1&2 instead. TBH the remake wasn't looking up to the standards of the originals anyway. I don't care about voice acting.
You forgot World End Phenomenon. Although we're supposed to finally get some news on it after New Years because there's been nothing but crickets since the original World End Syndrome released.
I'll tell you something you never believe. Game making actually takes time! Metroid Prime is one of the best games ever and I'm pretty sure Retro Studios wants to make the first HD entry one to remember. In other words it'll take 4-6 years to develop. Count from there, from the delay.
I think you'd be crazy to expect any of them besides Outerwilds and Silksong, maybe on an extremely slim chance Genshin Impact in 2023. The rest are coming later. Nintendo hasn't even shown off a trailer for Metroid Prime 4 yet it's probably releasing cross platform with whatever console replaces the Switch like Wii U owners got screwed waiting for Zelda Wii U aka Breath of the Wild
Golf Story 2 also : ( but it looks like that one might not come out. Shame since that's one of the best indies on Switch
I'm wondering where the Panzer Dragoon 2 and House of the Dead 2 remakes are ? especially the former as the remake of the first Panzer Dragoon came out quite a while ago now.
Remember on the original Switch release sizzle reel there was a game about a child and small dog. Whatever happened to that?
@Will808 it’s literally out in December - look up ‘Sports Story’
@Bunkerneath at e3 or some games event recently, I don’t know which, Microsoft confirmed Silksong is coming ‘in the next year’
@Archius9 !!! Thank you so much! I had no idea somehow missed the news that came out 2 weeks ago. Some people like me were starting to assume it sadly got cancelled I am so happy it's not! I look forward to it coming out next month
@Will808 no worries! I started again and finally finished GS recently so I’m so excited for the next one! I’ll likely bin off Pokémon by then and dive headfirst in
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