Going into Splatoon 2 after the excellent first entry in the series, expectations were high; arguably too high to be properly realised. The original showed an incredible level of ingenuity, clever design, and almost boundless creativity, so could the sequel match up or suffer from a case of the Final Fantasy IIs?
First off, let’s talk about the single player, which we’ve already covered in detail in our preview. If the original had one significant drawback it was the fact that although Hero Mode was good, it didn’t fully stand up to the quality of the multiplayer. It largely felt like the developers had somewhat struggled to fully integrate the mechanics of the stellar multiplayer into a solo experience, but somehow managed to make it just about work, leaving a game mode that was enjoyable with some incredible stand-out moments, but had a lack of refinement and variety in certain instances, and wasn’t as long as many had hoped.
Luckily almost every single complaint about the single-player has been resolved; it still isn’t gigantic in scope, but every level is now notably longer, larger, and is much more varied. Splatoon 2’s Hero Mode is also much tougher as well, despite the inclusion of a more typical replenishing shield system that’s so common in modern shooters. The supposedly evil Octarians have much better AI, there are new foes to contend with, and most importantly they more often than not serve as an obstacle to be overcome rather than a necessary method of progression. This in turn helps to make things feel more organic and grants the user more choice.
The single player on the whole offers roughly 6 to 10 hours of content as a rough estimate, but thanks to the new weapon system you could probably quite easily add a zero onto the end of both those numbers. As you progress Sheldon will gift you a number of weapons to be used, with one of the many being mandatory the first time you complete each stage. However, once you’ve completed a level, you can then go back and replay it with any weapon available to you, and to any Splatoon aficionado that should be music to your ears. The weapons all vary so much that playing through one level with a Roller will feel completely different if you switch up to the Charger, or the Slosher, or the Dualies.
By playing through levels with different weapons the game logs your progress and should you complete a stage with every weapon the game offers you unlock a superbly powerful Crusty Sean Ticket that provides bonuses online - but more on those later. If you’re even more dedicated and you play through every level with one of the many weapons you unlock that weapon for use online. They don't appear to offer any different effects to the basic versions of the weapons they emulate, but as far as bragging rights go, it’s pretty hard to top.
The only notable criticism we hold in regards to the single player is the fact that in each Sector you have to find each stage individually. This seems like a good idea on paper, but it can often be frustrating when you’ve got just one level to find, you don’t even know where to begin searching, and all you want to do is take on one of the many fantastic bosses. Thankfully, once you’ve found each level you can quickly super jump to them whenever you feel like it, so it’s not too bitter a pill to swallow.
Now let’s move on to the brand new ‘horde mode’, called Salmon Run. You’re tasked with teaming up in a group of four and taking on wave after wave of relentless Salmonids who want to fry you up into squid rings. You’re not there to just lay waste, however; you’re there to take out oversized and overpowered Boss Salmonids and steal their golden eggs to be deposited and forwarded onto your employer Mr Grizz, who is basically the Nintendo equivalent of the Elusive Man from Mass Effect.
To begin with, each wave feels fairly straightforward. The Salmonids arrive from somewhere on the shore, Boss Salmonids show their heads, you kill them, steal their eggs, deliver them, rinse and repeat. However, shortly after rising through the ranks (known as pay grades) things rapidly became more difficult. Salmonids arrive in greater numbers, but then at the start of another wave the tide changes, growing or shrinking the landmass. Then fog falls, making it difficult to see anything at all, while on another wave night descends and enemies move at double or possibly even triple speed. It’s an exciting wrinkle to the formula that keeps you on your toes.
Salmon Run has an excellent way of lulling you into a false sense of security, and then immediately changing things up to make your life ten times harder than it was. As a lover of severe challenge this really piqued this writer’s interest and made every successful run with the Salmon all the more satisfying and rewarding. Furthering the reward motif, each match will gift you with points towards your next ‘bonus’. These bonuses take various forms, such as Crusty Sean Tickets, Ability Chunks, hard cash, and even unique gear, meaning working for Grizzco can easily give you an edge in the main multiplayer mode.
There are three different ways to play Salmon Run. You can matchmake with other random players online, band together with a group of friends over the internet, or play to your heart’s content over local wireless. Speaking of matchmaking, there is one additional option we unfortunately were unable to test prior to press time for this review: Nintendo’s Online Lobby. This lobby is the method through which Splatoon 2 interacts with the yet-unreleased smartphone app for voice chat. In theory, the app will let you organise a party and communicate with them through your phone. We’re told the app will be made available at launch, and we’ll update in a separate post with a rundown of how it works once we can test it.
Returning to Salmon Run, it initially seems strange that this mode is limited to select hours at a time, but after playing it extensively it became clear that although it’s tough, wonderfully enjoyable and very rewarding, it could easily be forgotten when paired side-by-side with the standard online multiplayer. By restricting the times you can play it it becomes more of an event when it is online - much like a Splatfest - and giving players more reason to make the most of what it has to offer. It’s also possible that its reward system could be abused by players farming from it constantly, so that’s another good reason for limiting its availability. It would still be nice to have the option to play just for fun with friends online much like the local wireless, but unfortunately that’s not something the game offers.
So what about the main event? Well, the online multiplayer is probably fairly well known among those that played the recent Splatfest and Testfire demos, but they only showed a fraction of what the full game has to offer. Much remains the same as the original, but it's the small details and refinements that show how closely Nintendo has been listening to its fans. Gone are the myriad different Special Weapons that provide invulnerability, gone is the need to use a second screen; instead, everything has been streamlined so that your focus is never away from the action.
Some of the weapon changes may at first seem overpowered, such as the Charger weapons allowing users to maintain a charge for a short time when in squid form, but the real balancing comes from the new stage design. There’s an awful lot more cover for people to make use of, there’s less verticality for the most part (with exceptions such as Moray Towers), and overall allows people to be a little bit less aware of exactly where the entire enemy team is. It does result in levels that are arguably a little bit more vanilla and straightforward than Arowana Mall and Walleye Warehouse, but the end result is a scope of maps that do not favour any one kind of weapon, which is no mean feat. The trade off is worth it, and although some of the stages aren’t perhaps as iconic, they’re much more suited to the hardcore, serious gameplay that Nintendo is clearly trying to push with Splatoon 2.
What’s more, the level rotation is now every two hours instead of every four, providing a much greater variety and allowing almost dangerously long play sessions to happen without becoming fatigued with the same maps and game modes repeatedly. And yes, when this rotation occurs you will be booted from any party or group you may be in, but instead of being shown the arguably tedious newsflash with the arguably wonderful Squid Sisters, you’re just thrown back to the Lobby ready to start all over again without missing a beat. We do despair at the fact that you still can’t change weapons between matches in Regular Battle without exiting the lobby - an oversight that is genuinely frustrating, if only for how simple a fix it would be.
Speaking of game modes, the classic three ranked modes are back once again. Splat Zones remains essentially unchanged, but Rainmaker now sports a new kind of titular objective, which now shoots an explosive projectile rather than a giant whirlwind of ink. It’s not clear why this change was made but it seems to work well and doesn’t interfere too much with the mode’s dynamic. Tower Control has probably changed the most, now requiring those on the tower to hold off at various checkpoints before they can progress to the final objective. This is a very welcome addition as it forces more defensive strategies from teams rather than just attempting to charge through as quickly as possible, but it still feels very much like Tower Control.
There’s also an interesting new addition courtesy of the footwear guru Crusty Sean, who has shut up his shoe shop in favour of flaunting freshly fried foodstuffs. By exchanging a ticket you can receive a buff that increases your experience or coins earned in online battles, as well as increasing the likelihood of grabbing the sub ability you want for your gear. The nice thing is that this applies to 20 battles and as far as we can tell does not expire at any time, meaning you can use these bonuses without worrying that you might waste them.
You’ll also want to talk to Spike’s replacement Murch, who does pretty much everything Spike did and then some. You can now save up Ability Chunks in order to apply a specific ability onto a specific item of clothing, meaning you’re no longer constantly rolling the dice on what you want from a particular bit of gear. This is by no means a quick and easy thing to do, however it is reliable, which is more than can be said for the original reliance on random number generation.
As far as performance goes it’s difficult to find anything to complain about, everything just sort of works. Everything’s displayed in a gorgeous 1080p resolution for the most part, occasionally stepping down seamlessly during high-pressure moments in order to maintain 60fps at all times, which it does absolutely flawlessly. We didn’t experience a single drop in frame rate at any time online or offline, and considering how good the game looks that’s a chuffing impressive feat. Naturally, when played in portable mode the visuals drop to 720p, but the silky-smooth performance remains.
The art team have done a wonderful job of making the game visually stunning without hampering performance, something we didn’t fully appreciate when we first picked it up. It was only when we went back to the original we realised just how basic things look on the Wii U, and the various clever workarounds that were employed to make it look as good as possible without affecting how the game ran. The textures, bump mapping, lighting, the endless popping colours, it all boils down to a timeless art style much like the GameCube’s The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker. There’s also charm by the Slosher-load with each character having their own unique and likeable persona. Even the new Salmonids look as hideous and terrifying as they should do for a band of murderous mistakes of evolution.
Conclusion
Splatoon 2 is just about everything you could ask for from a sequel. It builds on everything the original set up and then some; almost every single major issue people had with the first game has been resolved, showing that Nintendo is genuinely listening and wants to deliver the absolute best experience possible. It maintains the freshness you’d expect and throws in countless big and small changes and additions, every one of them for the better. Anyone who says Nintendo can’t do online should be eating their words right now; Splatoon 2 is simply inkredible and continues Nintendo's trailblazing first year of Switch stunners.
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another 10?!?
not my kind of game
To be fair, it felt really sublime. They have inked another classic here!
Wow, I would have never expected a 10/10 from this game. An 8 or 9 MAYBE, but 10?
Well, hopefully by the time I pick it up I'll have decent, stable internet.
Hyyyyyype!
@AlexOlney Was it a bit strange I read this hearing your voice the whole way through lol!?
Nice job Nintendo!!
Well, when I buy a switch, I will surely get this one.
First splatoon game too, since I skipped the first one on Wii U :>
Please come through my door a day or two early. fingers crossed
Had I not played the global testfire this score would have surprise me, but I did and I could not stop playing it.
Friday cannot come soon enough.
Honestly this is the first game that has made me want a Switch. It is the first game besides Arms that I can't play on my Wii U or any other platform, and I am a huge Splatoon fan.
A 10 seems a bit much.
I've played Splatoon for 2000 hours, and I'm ready for more!
I wish the boys and girls and girls had all the same hair options - my only complaint from playing the Splatfest. Didn't have a WiiU so I'm really excited to finally play this!
10/10? Dang! Can't wait til my pre-order arrives!
Amazing. Sounds like this game is deeper and more satisfying on every level than the original Splatoon, which was already an incredibly fun and satisfying game.
One of the best years in gaming ever continues to impress. Can't wait to get my copy!
Nintendo's backwards approach of map rotation and limiting the Salmon Run guarantees this would not be a 10 from me.
Won't be getting the game until it's cheaper and has more content.
I can't give this a perfect score as long I continually open the map when I want to jump because I'm still too used to pressing X instead of B to jump.
Oh, boy. The hype is too real!
Friday cannot come soon enough!! Preordered a loooong time ago along with the Amiibos, Joy-Con Colors and Pro Controller Splatoon style.
Planned on playing the testifire for an hour and ended up playing 4 hours straight till my old *ss started getting a severe headache. lol
Can't wait for Friday.
Never douted it. Already preordered.
I'm surprised by the 10, or should I be at this point? That'll catch Nintendo's attention, again, and get the site some more publicity. No surprises for guessing which review they'll now use to promote this game.
It's the only perfect score on Metacritic and once more is above the average, again.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/splatoon-2/critic-reviews 84%
Not for the first time either. ARMS before it was given a 9 on this site. The average score was much lower.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/arms/critic-reviews 74%
Edit: The more I think about it, the more preposterous it is that this game was given a perfect score. NintendoLife is still the only site to have done so. It shouldn't be given a free pass for its short single player campaign or the various online issues. Which thankfully other sites have unbiasedly highlighted and is the reason why it's score is in the low-mid 80's.
Is it possible to put myself in the Shrine of Resurrection until Friday?? The hype is killing me!
The praise of the singleplayer has increased my interest; yet will wait a while before buying.
Unless a few friends end up buying it. I only enjoy playing multiplayer with friends.
YES!!! It's gonna be off the hook! Sorry, I'm excited. I had to.
@Spoony_Tech Whoa! Me too
Pre-oredered.
Are you kid, or are you a squid?
I LOVED hero mode in the first Splatoon. Reading that this one is longer and tougher is music to my ears.
Salmon Run looks like so much fun.
Even the first Splatoon was worthy of a 10/10 for me, one of the few games that made the Wii U worth owning. Glad they've improved on an already great formula, look forward to playing later this week. Hopefully my Internet behaves.
The original is one of my all time favourite games,I've never played a game as much as I played that one,well over 1000 hours.I burned myself out on it though and haven't gone back to it in nearly a year.Due to that,I wasn't really feeling the hype as much as I should have been but then I played the Splatfest and man am I hyped again..They've fixed the issues of the original,,it's bigger,has better graphics and can be played in so many different ways so it's well worth a 10/10 in my book.
BOTW 10/10
MK8D 10/10
ARMS 9/10
Splatoon 2 10/10
Mario Odyssey 10/10 (of course it will be)
Every one of those games well worthy of their scores.No console has ever been close to having a first year line up like that.
Thus far Only Nintendo Life has given it 10.
Otherwise it's getting solid eights.
Come on guys. You can't be this Switch-hype-full?
Bam.
It's what it is. Another masterpiece for Switch owners. TV or handheld.
I like you guys, I like your reviews, but I feel as if you're over doing it with the 10's for Nintendo Switch. Breath of the Wild fine, but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 are 9's at best.
@Timppis Alex has played an extensive amount of Splatoon.
If he didn't feel the sequel lived up to/surpassed his lofty expectations, he wouldn't have given it a 10.
Never played any Splatoon on my Wii U and I already pre-ordered this game awhile ago for the Switch so I'll be having tons of fun with it!
I am buying the squid outta this
Man I REALLY want a Switch... but money...
I absolutely loved the first game, this would be so boss to play on the go.
Without 2 player split screen, I can't consider this a 10. At very least they could have had a 2 player practice Salmon Run mode.
Having said that, this seems like a great game and arguing over an objective score that has no real meaning is pointless. I'm buying it and will play a lot of it with the kids
Friday can't come soon enough. I was hoping to be able to find my wife her own Switch by the release of this game so we could play online together, but apparently Nintendo doesn't know how to mass produce any product that sells well.
This game looks simply amazing. I can’t wait until Friday when we all get to spread some paint.
@Timppis Are you saying their opinion is false?
Salmon mode looks interesting, too bad it's not split screen. Will be interesting to see how the game performs online once the servers start filling up.
I certainly won't be "eating my words" about Nintendo's online performance, because for me almost every game I've played online has been a subpar experience compared to other platforms.
@RedMageLanakyn That's too bad, it may be your location. I haven't had a single bad experience with online yet.
@Eddyson This is an 8/10 on Polygon, GameSpot, GamesRadar and TheSixthAxis. I like this site but at this stage I think the review scores can largely be ignored.
@Timppis If by solid 8's, you mean a lot of 8s and a lot of 9s, then sure... This is still one writer's opinion on a game. Honestly, what is the difference between a 9 and 10? Isn't the end result essentially the same? It's an outstanding game that if you have any interest in, you should buy it.
As @Kalmaro mentions, it's an opinion - an opinion of a single writer. Just like the one 70 on metacritic isn't suddenly invalidated for being 10% off the average score, neither is @AlexOlney's rating of a 10 - it simply means he likes the game more than other critics. Feel free to read the other reviews (Even the really low ones!) to see what other people did or didn't like.
EDIT: @dystome First paragraph applies to you as well. There are a bunch of 90+ ratings out there too, and at that point, is it so hard to believe that someone else may personally like the game 5% more (or less) than someone else? Once we're talking scores of 90+, the end result is effectively the same - It's a great game you should buy if you have any interest in it whatsoever.
I had so much fun with Splatoon 1 that I'm a bit upset that I didn't enjoy the Splatoon 2 demos more than I did. I think Splatoon is, for me, just played out.
Edit: Hoo, boy. And already we have the "No, you're not allowed to have your opinion because other people have a different opinion" nonsense about the review score.
My body is ready for Friday!!!
@Dr_Corndog I'm in the same boat. I enjoyed Splatoon, but 2 felt like more of the same. That could be good or bad, depending on who you ask, but for me, I have enough other games to keep me busy for the time being. Feels odd passing on such a high profile (And highly rated) game, but I'm just not feeling it this go around.
LITERALLY no game can actually be a perfect 10. It's scientifically provable that there's always enough criticism to make 10/10 a fallacy. A perfect 10 can never, ever, ever be more than a political point. Science!! LOL!
@roadrunner343 No, absolutely - of course some people like some games more than others. I'm not asking for all reviewers to meld their minds and all release the same review; opinion is inherently subjective.
It's just with this site... they just seem to love everything Nintendo is pushing a bit more than every other site. It's too consistently in that direction to be coincidence at this stage.
Now everyone, please support this game!! It is easily one of the best IPs Nintendo has created in years. Believe the hype. This is good old fashioned Nintendo magic at work.
I will somewhat miss a splatscreen (don't see my bro playing this anyway) but the rest sounds incredible. Yes I wrote it with a C. This is no Mortal Kombat
Nice to hear that change in Tower Control, sometimes matches ended in a flash. Salmon Rush seems to be fun and a bigger single player is always welcome.
@Kalmaro Could be, haven't really been able to nail it down. Lots of disconnects from lobbies/games in MK8, SSB4, and the few hours I played the original splatoon, it would take upwards of 5 minutes to get into a game. Just haven't experienced those types of problems on other platforms, so it really stands out to me.
@NinChocolate It depends on what the review score is seen as being.
If it's supposed to be a measure of how perfect a game is then, no, it's not possible for any game to be a '10'.
If it's supposed to be a measure of how well does a game measure up to its stated objectives (and a judgement of whether those stated objectives are sufficiently ambitious) then there's no reason why lots of games can't be a '10'.
Personally I don't particularly put too much weight onto review scores. It simply means that one reviewer likes/dislikes a game. In some cases I'll be swayed to buy or not buy a game based on reviews but they don't affect at all my enjoyment of the games I do buy in the slightest.
Very rarely do I pre-order, but I had to for Splatoon 2 - even avoided the Splatfest at the weekend to save myself for Friday. I'm actually more excited for this than Mario Odyssey, which is saying something.
You get a 10! And you! And you too! 10 10 10 10!!!
@dystome I will agree that they do rate games higher sometimes, but on the same note, I likely would too. The problem with being a Nintendo focused sight is that you also likely tend to attract Nintendo biased staff. I just take that into account when reading their reviews.
I somewhat wish they would go the Rock, Paper, Shotgun route and and leave scores off altogether. Maybe even dropping to a 5 point scale would help. It would result in more 5 star scores, but I don't really think there is much different between an 8.5, 9, 10, etc... anyway. It all comes down to personal opinion of the game. I know I've enjoyed from 70 rated games more than I have other 90-100 games.
The first Splatoon felt like a bit of an experiment, so I could forgive the way it was setup to be played online. This sequel had the opportunity to give us more customisation and options for multiplayer (on or offline), to put it in the same league as Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros.
Instead we're once again dictated to by servers and schedules. It'll be a fun time while it lasts, but if they can just find a way to give it that extra push off the cliff, maybe we can go all the way to 11/10.
Yeap day one purchase for me.
@NinChocolate If a 10/10 is unawardable, then we're basically working with a system ranked out of 9, in which case we may as well just call it 9/9. But then we have the same problem, and so on until we have no review system whatsoever.
There's no point losing a decent chunk of your reviewing system just to make a point about perfect games being 'impossible'. If you like, you can think of 10/10 as everything that 95/100 and above would round up to if transferred to the less finely grained n/10 system.
Wow, congrats Nintendo! I have to say though, when playing the Splatfest, the presence of the gamepad screen was sorely missed (I never thought I would be saying that).
@dorkeybubblehead
I am sure that he has played Splatoon a plenty. But reading from the review and looking at the other reviews there are a lot of things that modern online shooters and modern online competitive games have as a standard and this does not have them.
@Kalmaro
Yes. That is what I am saying. It is a false opinion. It is false and not true. It is in fact not an opinion at all. It is a non-opinion. It is a dead opinion. It has ceased to be an opinion.
@roadrunner343
It might be a great game, but it seems that this review blatantly overlooks the standards of competitive online games and competitive shooters. I am personally still on the fence on whether or not to get it. Never really liked the single player in the first one and dunno if I have the time and stamina to put hours into the multiplayer like I did with the first one (ie. having two kids nowadays instead of one baby under six months).
@Exy exactly. The map kept coming up. I loved the gamepad for splatoon. Worked great
@RedMageLanakyn " for me almost every game I've played online has been a subpar experience compared to other platforms."
I can't disagree with you there,it hasn't been great overall but have you played ARMS?The online set up in that is great,feels very modern and is really quick in finding matches,especially for ranked matches.You can finish one fight and be fighting a new challenger in under 20 seconds..I've had a couple of communication errors when playing in party mode which has up to 8 players but it's pretty rare and could have just been my iffy internet.Ranked mode though has been flawless.It's a good sign of things to come I think.
I really want to love Splatoon, but both demo sessions left me a little underwhelmed. Probably just because I need more time to click with it. But as it stands, I'm interested enough to be keeping an eye out for a deal, but not won over enough to pre-order.
@Maxz I'm all for 10's. I was just spoofing comments that contradict a review score
@Timppis I think you fail to understand what an opinion is. It is impossible for an opinion to be false as they do not make claims other than what the person is feeling.
Therefore, an opinion can only be false if the person is lying about what they felt, which you are going to have a very difficult time proving.
Is there offline multiplayer?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE The general critique is that it's a refinement rather than innovation sequel. I can absolutely live with that.
@Kalmaro
Really? You don't say? It is in fact not the same as factual informative theory verifiable via scientific method? It is not in fact empirically observable? It is not objective in every perceivable manner?
You must be wrong.
@Timppis I was wrong about taking you seriously, that's for sure. When your scientific method allows you to tell exactly what he was thinking, get back with me.
I'm gutted that there's no split screen multiplayer.
@AlexOlney About offline local play. Just to clarify: no bots on turf war, right? So we're stuck with Salmon Run unless EIGHT switches are gathered? I just wish I could play with my brother without a whole party going.
This is another Switch game I've very little interest in. I've no interest in ARMS either. Still waiting for the first must-have on Switch which will be Super Mario Odyssey. I played the original Splatoon on Wii U to death, so this isn't very exciting, more a remix.
@OorWullie I've played arms, but not online, only local fights. I've watched a friend play and in two of the three fights, an opponent would disconnect in the middle of the match. Whether it was rage quit or an actual disconnect, can't be sure, but it was present.
It will be interesting to see what direction Nintendo takes next year, once more switches start rolling out, more online games come out, higher server load, etc. Hopefully the paid for service allows for some upgrades on their end.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I believe you are in the minority here but then, it is your opinion so I can't argue with it. Hopefully, for your sake, the Switch comes out for something that interests you.
Not gonna re-buy Splatoon as I pretty quickly lost interest in the first game.
@gspro15198 Same here. Well I did play a few hundred hours first.
It was either this or ARMS as money is tight. Good to hear this improves on the original. Will probably be close to a day one purchase for me
I'm really looking forward to this, but a 10? Really? Come on.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
I have a little bit of the same problem right now.
Luckily there is already a must have game. That's Zelda.
ARMS I have no interest in after the demo weekends. Spla2oon I am still on the fence.
Have to wait until August 29th when the Rabbids arrive. After that it's almost too many games in the following months. FIFA, WWE2K18, Odyssey, great indies hopefully with Stardew Valley, Golf Story, and who knows maybe even XC2 and Steep this year.
Oh I really wish they manage to get the Steep to Switch.
Without the gamepad. Splatoon 2 just doesn't seem that good. Played a lot of splatoon and 2 will take a lot to get use to. Maybe give a button mapping option will help
Can't wait for Friday. The original had one of my favorite final bosses, so I can't wait to see how this single player ends.
@Kalmaro Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 should be those games. Splatoon was alright but I got bored of it after a while. The sequel will be great for those fresh to the experience but it's not for me.
Friday can't come soon enough.
A 10? I don't believe you.
Now if I can find those Joycons Friday I'll be set.
Buying this zelda and Mario keep me busy until i have some money.. Add me if you want to play splatoon or mariokart
Ot: the switch has such good games. Its on par with the Ps4 for me. Zelda is above horizon right now.
I still find Nintendo's approach to online questionable at best. The map rotation system, while thankfully not as bad, is still a big black eye when compared to more modern games in a similar genre. For an online-focused title I find it exceptionally jarring that Nintendo is placing such restrictions on it. Voice chat is finally here but once again Nintendo takes the ass-backwards approach by making us use an app for that which seems counter intuitive for a system meant to be taken on the go as well as played at home.
10/10 review is surprising but hardly shocking on a Nintendo site but I do wish reviewers would start calling Nintendo out on their lackluster online. They may have listened to the fans with the items but the online has barely been improved and for 2017 frankly that isn't good enough.
I understand Nintendo fans may not mind too much but sadly it's because they've become accustomed to less. As a longtime Nintendo fan I wish Nintendo would start embracing online.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Both look low solid games, can't argue with you there!
The original Splatoon was brilliant (a solid 10 in my book), so really great to hear Big N has improved upon it. Friday can't come soon enough!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Ill wait till i try it on friday! 10 seem little to much! Clearly nintendo life love's that publicly... ive lost litte confidence in NL reviews long time ago.
Bought arms after seeing 9/10 score only to realise that game clearly deserve 7/10
I bought the fantastic implosion and NL handed it average score of 7/10 which i think deserves far higher score.
With out going on score rant think best just play it yourself and see what you think!
@JpGamerGuy90 I agree. A game that so predominantly is played online and is gimped in a few ways, voice chat, course selection rotation, limited access to Salmon Run, they weren't able to test out Nintendo's Online Lobby and a few other niggles but it gets a 10? Sorry, that doesn't wash. It's still the only perfect score on Metacritic from 50+ reviews. It seems more like a refinement than adding anything really substantially new apart from the aforementioned Salmon Run.
@electrolite77 If you mean this sites Switch reviews then yes. But if you mean Splatoon 2 's review scores in general, then no, it's the only one.
@AlexOlney Can you play 2-4 players locally with one Switch?
As ever, being a fan site NL is the most generous reviewer of a first-party game.
Overall though, looking at Metacritic, the majority of reviews are very positive and it's averaging 84% (the 15th Switch game with an 80+ average, stats fans) so this is another feather in the Switch's very feathery cap.
This is Nintendo homer site. I never believe their reviews. I tend to go more with this
https://www.polygon.com/2017/7/18/15989698/splatoon-2-review
WOW!!! 10/10?! Freaking 10 out of 10?!!! HYPEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
I load the comments and 10% of them disappear; someone must be mad Alex doesn't think "SCamiibo" is clever.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE NintendoLife has a different opinion than the average. The world is falling, everybody panic!!
Is just a matter of taste.
@Hikingguy Yeah, I'll likely wait until the Selects range where it'll hopefully be closer to a £25 price point (and assuming the player base is still alive) or if the content justifies it, I'll get it somepoint next year
@dregs78 That may be, but a Nintendo fan site is likely to have primarily Nintendo homers as readers, so above-the-average scores might very well be more in line with their readers' opinions than a more neutral site's. Plus we get to watch trolls have fun, and they deserve content every bit as much as we do.
@PanurgeJr Blocking someone and then continuing to talk trash about them? Does that make you feel good knowing they can't see it? You're a superstar.
Never played the first,my Wii U was gone before that came out,played both of the test fires and pre-ordered last night,loved it.
@roadrunner343 Haha, it does feel odd. I had the game pre-ordered for a while, but if you just aren't that interested in the game, then why buy it? I have plenty of games to keep me busy, anyway.
I'm still playing Splatoon on the Wii U. I can't imagine playing without a second screen for Super Jumps.
I'll never understand why people find this game fun. I played the splatfest for an hour, was incredibly bored, then deleted the software
@RedMageLanakyn Actually NintendoLife blocked him for me. But yeah, I suspect my comment made me feel as good as yours did when you imagined you were calling me out and demonstrating your superior virtue.
@Biff_ARMStrong you're probably playing it wrong and bad at it
So ranked mode is more of the same, which is by no means a bad thing, but I would have liked to seen them add at least one new ranked mode.
Salmon mode is looking great, and will be lots of fun with friends. Single player seems like a well deserved improvement from the first game, and is the mode I'm most interested in.
The big problem for me is the rotation system. I don't like that Salmon Run and specific ranked modes are only available at certain times. If I'm in the mood for Tower Control and they only have Rain Maker available, then that sucks.
The 10 out of 10 score seems too high for this game. From what I've read so far, I would have likely gave it an 8, or maybe a 9.
@PanurgeJr I can admit I'm superior to you in terms of virtue, I doubt you'll admit you're nothing but a coward, especially considering you couldn't even block him yourself
@Biff_ARMStrong I felt exactly the same about ARMS. Played it for an hour, deleted the software. Different strokes, right?
Maybe I was just playing it wrong and bad at it!
I'm afraid that NL has been overinflating their scores...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Yeah especially given the way online is handled. Nintendo is still way behind on that front.
@RedMageLanakyn So is using the winky emoji the equivalent of saying "God bless your heart you're an idiot"?
My body is ready.
Totally gonna love it. The only issue I had with the first game was the horrible internet connection problems and maybe the single player campaign. And looks like both have been solved! Totally deserves that 10/10!!!
@PanurgeJr It's open to interpretation, i'll let you decide that one for yourself.
Super excited for this game. Competitive online games are my favorites.
@MisterMan Probably, but if I wanted to play a game where I`m geting sniped and blindsided constantly I`d go get an X-Bone and play a more bad ass version
@SecondServing
Well out of the first 25 reviews, this is the highest by far. Nintendo fans are going to score everything Nintendo higher...which is fine. Just like Sony fans will do the same. You just have to know where the review is coming from.
Overall, the average is looking like the lower 8s.
And for those who have friends and can make friends, the voice chat option sucks.
@Biff_ARMStrong or get a PS4 or PC and play good games?
I thought I was on IGN for a moment, seeing the brouhaha over review scores.
This will be one of the very few games I will buy digitally. My wife always wants me to play splatoon and I always am too lazy to switch the games out. Hehe.
Played it a bit during the splatfest, but I assume it's just not for me.
1 game worth buying a Switch for. Hopefully it's the beginning of many!
Is there a southpaw control option? If not, that's a deal breaker. Bought the first and barely played because of that.
@PanurgeJr I have no doubt this game isn't fun. I loved the first one but yeah 10/10. It probably isn't.
Scores are entirely subjective and shouldn't be what defines a review anyway. From what I can gather this seems like a bigger, better Splatoon. It doesn't matter if that means it's an 8, 9 or 10; I'm going to buy the game no matter what.
@RainbowGazelle I would argue ARMS was the start. Perhaps not an instant classic but it looks like a solid fighting game.
Yet again Nintendo life scores a Nintendo game higher than any other sites, I always check other sites for a true review, can't take NL seriously with reviews. NL are the only ones to give it a perfect score, it's 84 metacritic at moment
"Improved Singleplayer Experience" Was all I needed. Glad they went over and above.
No mention of zero split screen local multiplayer......... now i know its not up to much, but for a machine that boasts u can play WITH anyone........... erm, u clearly cant🤦♂️
Switch with its strong start, it's been an amazing console so far.
Never played Splatoon as it just didn't appeal to me until I tried Splatoon 2 Global Testfire back in March on the Switch and I had so much fun, loved it. Decided to get Splatoon for the WiiU right there and then and I've played over 60 hours on it so far, still playing it 4 months later and I have Splatoon 2 on preorder.
@EDF Well, they did give Splatoon 1 a 9/10, it's evident Splatoon 2 is a much better game, so no surprise really.
People, it's really simple: if this game has improved upon Splatoon 1 in almost every area or has even gone above and beyond that, then by all rights it should deserve a higher score than the original game.
And sure, they could also have made it a 9,5 because nobody or nothing is perfect, but still. All that whining and moaning, just because Alex's opinion isn't corroborated by other reviewers is extremely tiresome.
A 10 is a bit too much. I feel it's more of an 8 or a 8.5 game. Splatoon 2 still has some really disappointing decisions (like Salmon Run being a timed event, like Splatfest) and no normal map rotation. But the game is solid just because there are plenty of stuff refined and rebalanced. Plus, Splatoon on the go is the best
@Malcrash If this game truly is better than the original, which scored a 9 on NLife, then the staff would be hard-pressed to explain to any logical thinking person how they could possibly give this sequel a lower score...
There's definitely a lot of whining here. It's completely fine to disagree with their opinion that it's a 10/10. I probably would have given it a 9/10 or a 9.5/10 myself, because there are some issues from the first game that carried over to the second one that Nintendo decided not to fix for whatever reason, and thus I don't think it deserves a 10/10, great as the game will probably be. But does the fact that they gave the game a 10 REALLY impact you in any way?
Maybe you should just...get over it?
Splatoon was a 10/10 for me. Not because of the graphics or the 'mechanics' or the design or framerate and resolution. It was 10/10 for the months of pure enjoyment I had playing the game. Nintendo made playing the game an event. I can't wait for Splatoon 2. I can't wait for the coming weeks of dlc and splatfests. As a third person territorial invasion game, there aren't many out there better.
Eh, the first game was ok, seeing it's more of the same I'm probably gonna pass this time.
@Biff_ARMStrong, yep good idea judge the game on one mode that you are replaying over and over, where the goal is to just paint, with the same music playing over and over. Because that's all the game offers right...there isn't ranked and all it's various modes etc...there isn't anything else...right?
@Zingo Calm down there soldier...
You know what, despite the high scores this game deserves, some are still bickering about the exact scores, so I hereby invoke the power of the name... DUNKEY. There, now your own tastes are all that matters and none enforced upon others. Enjoy the game.
@Honelith
Yep, the first Splatoon didn't deserve a 9, I enjoyed it for a short while. I ain't bothered that this game got a perfect score, afterall I look elsewhere for reviews, it will no doubt be a good game but perfect I very much doubt it, hope ppl enjoy it though
Splatoon was already a 9.5/10 game for me. If this is improved Splatoon, I think it certainly deserves a 10.
I think the reason this game is only sitting at 84% is what I'm gonna call the Pokemon Emerald effect for lack of a better name, in reference to Pokemon Emerald having a score 6 points lower than Ruby/Sapphire despite being almost objectively better. In other words, because it's just an improved version of the original as opposed to a brand new, completely unique game, people rather unfairly rate it lower even if it's technically better.
"Gone is the need to use a second screen; instead, everything has been streamlined so that your focus is never away from the action." Wow, you guys can spin anything for Nintendo. That's not what you were saying last generation when you were having to push the Wii U Gamepad.
What about the online connection issues? Any of those?
I read some of the comments above and started laughing outload , the comments where people are saying the game should not get a 10 out of 10 cause other sites are giving it an 8 and the comments where people are saying the game is not their type of game . I can say I said the same thing about the first game when it got good reviews, I thought it looked silly and thought it would be a game only a little kid could like then I gave in and purchased a copy for my Wii U and proved myself so so so wrong, it instantly became one of my favorite Wii U titles . So I've been excited that we are getting a full fledged sequel this soon and from what I've seen, read about and played of Splatoon 2 so far I love. THANKS ALEX FOR THE GREAT REVIEW AND FOR GIVING THE TITLE A WELL DESERVED 10 . I remember reading a review for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on another site where they said the title was the very best Mario Kart ever and the best kart racing game ever as well but because it was an updated Wii U title they scored it lower than the original by a point giving the game an undeserving 8, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a 10 easy in my opinion., When it comes to Splatoon 2 an 84% so far on metacritic is AWESOME for a game especially a sequel., not to mention all the free DLC Nintendo is gonna add to the title and the fact it's PORTABLE that alone sets the bar higher this time around for me I can't wait to pick up my copy.
@Alex_Olney Do we know when the ONLINE APP is going to be available yet?
A lot of the other reviews say 8/10 but it's still day one for me
@Spoony_Tech Oh god, I wasn't the only one. Phew. @AlexOlney Your voice leaves too much of a lasting impression
Nintendo Switch Online app and Splatnet 2 launches 21st july also.
Still hate the controls but dealing with them is a small price to pay to enjoy one of the Nintendo's best games. Loved the original game, loved the splatfest last weekend. Consider me sold!
No idea how this can be a 10 but I loved Splatoon for Wii U so I'm excited. The Slamon Run limitations are ridiculous though and you still can't change weapons without exiting so doesn't seem like any more than an 8 or maybe a 9 to me.
im shock it got a 10/10. i expected a 8-9/10.
either way, i loved playing the original. cant wait to tried the sequel.
Looks great, I can't wait!
havent played it yet so cant score it but truth is they havent got a rubust online setup. Its actually a basic system with rotating maps every couple of hours for stupid reasons which quite frankly show Nintendo need to evolve. The main draw to this game for me was a horde mode, which i now hear i cant play until Nintendo decide its time for me to play. Really off putting as it looks like a great mode, but how will they know when i want to switch it on and play. I wanted to actually play that mode offline with bots i dont care about the rewards if its a good mode i would play it but that isnt allowed because they want to control when these "events" #lowbase all on the same thing as they dont have enough players online at the same time to justify a real infrastructure for online.
However im sure its a 8 to 9 easy , just lets face the music you cant even chnage weapon without leaving a lobby. Thats an actual joke, plus if i want a session maybe an hour and a half i want to play other maps hate the idea of forced map rotation with limited numbers.
@Haywired such a good point quite annoying when you think about it
Looking forward to Friday!! Just hope it doesn't have online problems like the Wii U version, could not play online for the fist 3 months on that game very frustrating ever time I got in to a game it would kick me out!! Fingers X
@Malcrash the 6 to 10 hour on the go mode , have i missed if there is anything else you can do offline? Salmon Run Locked, Online -Duh. What is the Experience on the go? Basic one player mode?
Pre-ordered several weeks ago. Splatoon was probably the best game on Wii U and is Nintendo's best original IP in over a decade. This will likely be one of the best games on the Switch for years. If not period.
@Mooj738 Other people who have Switches, have Splatoon 2, and have local multiplayer turf wars and Salmon Run (and the only way you actually can play the mode on demand)
@CreamyDream Map rotation is needed to fit your weapons and gear with the current stages.
For some reason trying to play ARMS and Splatoon online causes constant disconnections even when I'm right next to my router. I can't justify buying games that require heavily on online play when I can't even play online.
Judging from every single other review it would seem that you have over rated Splatoon 2. Day one for me though
I definitely agree 10/10 is extreme, however an overall average rating of 84% still means it's an awesome game!
I honestly thought Splatoon was the title that defined the Wii U for me, and honestly, I think even the original game was a 10/10. Now it's back and even better and people refuse to believe someone could think it's a 10? All I can say is this:
Who. Cares.
Love the game, refuse to think it's a 10, find it mediocre, hate it; I couldn't care less. I'm hyped for this, and I'm confident I'll view this as a 10/10 as well. I don't see why everyone's so hung up on Alex giving his opinion...... On a review.... Which is an opinion.
Heaven forbid someone have a dissenting perspective on a game, be it on the positive or negative end of the spectrum; everyone loses their dang minds.
Why do people seem to demand uniformity in review scores? Every game is either a 10/10 and we need to burn the witches who disagree, or it could never be a 10, and anyone who thinks so is posting clickbait, a fanboy, or is being paid off. Man, slap a number on something and all reasoning goes out the window for some folks.
10 come on... its basically an online arena deathmatch shooter. If thats a 10 in 2017 then gaming has really decayed.
Its a good game for what it is but apart from the fanatics most people will get bored of this in a couple of months like cod. Its basically nintendos cod.
8 at best maybe 8.5. Thus site is so unobjective and a product of starry eyed fan bias lately.
The time limited map rotation is a serious problem in my view and cant receive a 10 for that alone.
" could the sequel match up or suffer from a case of the Final Fantasy IIs?"
Not true. Splatoon 2 is not garbage following garbage like in the FF case Alex said here.
Secondly Alex is a Splatoon fan. It's obvious in the review. He does not even hide the fact. Well at least he is honest, that's a good thing.
I give the game so far, a 8/10. There's just too many little niggling issues to score the game better.
Nintendo being an ass about drop outs,
No way to customise the controls (as far as I know)
No easy way to see what the controls actually are in game (as far as I know)
No way to change weapon sets in the lobby
No lobby mini game in the splatfest. I hope this returns, as it was in the WiiU game.
The multiplayer has little variety in your main objective.
The MMR in the splatfest was broken. Is Nintendo even using a proper MMR in Splatoon?
No way to have mixed teams in the Splatfest. Not counting towards the splatfest score, just better to get people into a game quickly.
Popularity has to much of an importance in the overall splatfest result. The least popular side has to win both team and solo battles to win the splatfest. This makes the splatfest end result rather worthless for anything apart from a fun thing. The most popular side can easily beat the most skilled side.
There are more issues too.
That's why I give the game so far an 8/10. Still a very good game, I have pre-ordered it. Totally not worth a 10/10 though.
I do wish Alex would review objectively and not based on personal fan bias. Alex is better than this. We know Alex can do better reviews than this. I'd like to know why the review is so biased.
@ThanosReXXX
I dunno, i think Splatoon 1 was good, and yes 9 good. But part of that rating i believe is due to it's originality. It's no longer original which downgrades it automatically.
Most of the changes in 2 are things that should've been in the original. This game is a solid 9, not a 9.5. based on what i've seen so far, that may change come Friday.
Put 1,000 hours into the original Splatoon. Can't wait for Friday to come and start fresh again! So so so excited for this!!!!
I just hope the gyro lag from the Splatfest and Testfire won't pop up here. Got used to it quickly, but it could cause trouble with more skilled opponents and more accurate weapons.
@dystome
I don't visit the other sites but you have to add 2 to any Nintendo review GameSpot does.
I like all the focus on the number given to the review not the actual content of the review. Ahh well.
The one thing holding me back is the disappointing lack of 1v1 couch co-op multiplayer for most of the modes. I'm not a big online multiplayer gamer.
@Inu I guess it will all fall into place for some of us, if we play it ourselves. Maybe those test fires were a decent indication of things to come in some ways, but they still weren't the full experience.
To some extent, I suppose you've got a point about things that should already have been in there in the first place, but on the other hand, you also have to take into account that making a shooter was something entirely new for Nintendo, so they were treading on unknown territory.
And they still made it an entirely unique, Nintendo-esque experience regardless, so that is quite a feat if you ask me.
And even though I can understand your point, personally, I'd like to look at things from the glass half full perspective. So to me, saying things like "that should have already been in there in the first place" sounds decidedly glass half empty...
But of course, anyone is welcome to their own opinion, and I respect that.
Personally, I just go by two rules of thumb where games are concerned: does it look better than the previous one and are there improvements gameplay-wise. If both of these can be answered with a definite yes, then I don't mind and fully understand people giving it a better score than the previous one, even if the changes are only subtle and in this case, if the impact of the game isn't really as big as the first installment, because of the series now being "known".
But having said all that, I'm also quite content with it scoring a 9 as an average, which would still be a fantastic score. After all, I'm not the reviewer that gave it a 10...
I played one game during the splatfest and was hooked as I never played the first one but went out today just for a 64gig sd card and eshop cards to buy it and to have space for more eshop games as well
@dorkeybubblehead Like his reaction to Sonic Forces? The same video which has an overwhelming amount of dislikes as he vented about the game by pointlessly comparing it to 06 and saying Colors and Generations was better, when Forces is more of the same? Experience does not denote a good review, that's a logical fallocy.
I think this game should get an 8 at most, as other reviewers seems to agree. Nothing in the game screams that it couldn't have been an overhaul to the old Splatoon. "If it an broken, don't fix it" doesn't mean you can slightly improve a good game and not be criticized for not doing more. Fans of the older games will like this, newcomers will really like this, but those like me to played Splatoon in the past and got sick of their matchmaking and rotation mechanic won't be incentivized to buy this game. Same applies to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, aside from constant disconnect problems that others have been complaining about.
I don't know if I can trust Alex's opinions, especially when he said he would have given Star Fox Zero a 9 instead of an 8 because of "objective" reasons. Writing can have some objectivity in relation to statistics, but his "objectiveness" doesn't exist. Unless he's telling me my College English Composition textbook is lying to me. Every piece of work has a voice.
Rant aside, this seems like a fine game, but I'm not going to rush out to buy this one. Only if my friends gets it, as playing with randoms is never fun.
@Exy I'm really struggling with the controls. I keep looking down (test fire and Splatfest) when I get inked to assess the map...nothing to see. I really miss the gamepad and button layout. Still excited for the game.
@the8thark Objective reviews do not exist, unless you are listing off statistics without an agenda or specific message meant behind it. "A scientific paper might be written in an objective style, but that doesn’t mean it will have no voice" is what my "Writing: Ten Core Concepts" textbook says, along with every evaluative piece having a bias that needs to be evaluated.
This long quote says a lot about this bias:
"It is important to understand that all sources are biased in
some way. We tend to think of some kinds of source material,
such as encyclopedias and other kinds of reference works, as
objective or neutral. But even a venerable reference such as
the Encyclopedia Britannica can be said to have certain biases.
For example, the kind of information that is considered
appropriate for inclusion in Encyclopedia Britannica reflects a
set of beliefs about what kinds of knowledge or information are
relevant and important for its purposes. Although such a
reference work tries to be compre- hensive, it inevitably
excludes some kinds of information and privileges others. For
instance, extremely technical information about the rhythms of
Hip Hop music might be excluded from an encyclopedia, even
though more general information about that musical form
might be included. The decisions the editors make about what
to include and what to exclude in the encyclopedia represent a
bias, no matter how open-minded the editors might be. Bias,
then, is not necessarily a negative quality in a source, but it is
essential to recognize bias in any source you consult so that
you can evaluate the usefulness of information from that
source. Some kinds of sources are transparent about their
biases."
So therefore, as Alex has his own voice and bias, you can't say he or any other reviewers has an objective review. He will lean towards one way of thinking that others will disagree with.
I'm sure the game is even better, but again the visuals are lacking compared to the WiiU installment. WiiU truly has the best shading (or shaders if you prefer) of any console ever.
Cannot believe a 10!!! Surely a great game but not a 10.
Hyped!! I purposely stayed away from test fires, demos etc. I wanted to play the full version game right off the bat. Online play will be the bread and butter of this game but I really, really like what I have seen of the single player campaign, too. 3 days!
Unlikely I'll get this. Unless I missed it, where's the 4 player split screen mode? I'm not interested in online and the single player doesn't seem to offer enough. NL are getting carried away with 10s too. Both this and MK8D have obvious features missing (MK8D is too easy for experienced players, and lacks any real single player mode or features like a random character and kart selection) so a 9 would be the highest I'd give - especially for a sequel.
@LemonSlice
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-how-does-splatoon-2-tech-improve-over-wii-u?page=comments
Okay, Nintendo.
May Splatoon 2 boost Nintendo Switch sales so drastically.
I wasn't expecting a 10 out of this at all... I passed on Splatoon on the Wii U, but I'm probably getting this when I can manage it.
I've read over the Metacritic reviews earlier today, and some of them had me shaking my head at the comments. You think it deserves just an 8 and not a 10? That's fine...that's your personal opinion. But basing on lowering the score because "it doesn't change enough from the original" or "feels like more of the same as the original Splatoon"? I can't exactly take those comments/opinions too seriously. Not when games like CoD have fairly frequent "sequels" that don't do much to change up the game hardly EVER with each iteration...but I bet those same places knocking Splatoon 2 for those reasons would give the next CoD a 9 or 10 because...CoD release! Splatoon 2 seems to have plenty of upgrades over the original game: 2 new game modes (I consider the new League games a new mode), upgraded graphics (easily able to see when putting it up against the original game), new weapons, new specials, new maps, map rotations are now only every 2 hours instead of 4, voice chat and out of game communications (however awkward a system it is), a longer, tighter Hero mode, promises of more maps/weapons/etc. DLC to come for a whole YEAR...which like the first game will also be completely free, and Splatfests for at least TWO years. And that's just all I can think of at the top of my tired head (its almost 2am now). So...if all that sounds like just a LITTLE upgrade to the first game...I think someone has a little bit of a screw loose!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
This game is far more on the side of a 10 than on the side of a 6 that some crap website decides to give in order to get attention,i believe there a couple on metacritic.......so yeah
I can't wait for Friday. Missed the first game because I didn't have a Wii U at the time it released but it was always a game I was interested in. Splatoon 2 seems awesome.
This is the moment when I finally stop trusting NL reviews and see their words for what they truly are... Biased hyperbole.
Wow! The Switch is just over 4 months old and it already has three 10 /10 games. Way to go Nintendo!
@PlayedNSlayed It's not a 6 but it's definitely not a 10. It's been given a free pass on all the online issues and that it's more of a refinement than introducing new ideas.
Wow!
I didn't think I'd be seeing a 10.
Ugh stop saying Alex's 10 isn't right. I mean a lot of people on here said that they would've given the original game a 10/10 me included. Yeah sure it had it's problems, but i still played it over 200 hours and a game that keeps me hooked for so long is definitely a 10/10. And if the first one was so good why the second one will certainly be better. I mean i read IGN's review and they gave the original an 8.6 and the new one an 8.3. I just don't get it because they never mentioned anything like "this is worse than in the first" in their review. They only stated improvements. Heck these review scores are so unnecessary. just read the review and stop complaining about a number
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I agree its not a 10 but i would certainly give it a 9.There are also plenty of other sequels that don't include half the new stuff this does. Splatoon 2 has also introduced a lot of new things and seems a lot more balanced. Overall its still the freshest (pun not intended) take on the shooter genre,although some may say Overwatch too.Either way its still worth a buy whether you played the original or are coming into it new,its still loads of fun and another great game on the Switch,and that's not even considering all the free updates and DLC to come
@LemonSlice ..................wow haha. I liked the WiiU too mate but come on....
The big question for me would be how they handle it post-release.
I loved the first game when it was released, but they just seemed to go overboard with all of the additions and balancing updates, and it just seemed to make it more unbalanced than when they started... some of the new weapons had a noticeable advantage over all of the existing ones, while some of the older ones got nerfed for stupid reasons, putting them at a disadvantage.
TBH, it has been a while since I last played, so they may have fixed this now, but the fact that it got to the point where I stopped playing as a result is why I'm concerned about the same thing happening again.
Wait what? A 10/10, really? Wow.
Love the first one! So hyped for Salmon run and also the new hairstyles! Bring on Friday!!!!!
@Gerbwmu They should've had two player online coop like MK8!!! Huge oversight.
Also Alex says there's less verticallity in the stages. Why would they do that! That was such a big part of the original levels' layout! They could've just ported the original stages with little changes.
And how much content is there at launch? Because Splatoon 1 launched with a pretty lacking amount: too few stages, purchasable items, modes and weapons.
Another criticism I have is that Salmon Run is only for a limited time online, unless you have two-four Switches to play with locally.
@Highlar " 2 new game modes (I consider the new League games a new mode)" A slight, but valid change.
"upgraded graphics (easily able to see when putting it up against the original game)," barely any significant change
"new weapons, new specials, new maps" yes, so did the original splatoon with the bucket and machinegun-esk weapons
"map rotations are now only every 2 hours instead of 4" Simple UI change
"voice chat and out of game communications (however awkward a system it is)" Yes it is awkward. Also, you can use other means of communicating if you play with friends. So to a lot of people, this is worthless.
" a longer, tighter Hero mode" Which could have easily been added to the original.
"promises of more maps/weapons/etc. DLC to come for a whole YEAR...which like the first game will also be completely free" Yes, like the Original, almost exactly the same.
"Splatfests for at least TWO years" Like the last one.
All of these things could have been added to the original Wii U splatoon if the Wii U was a success and the Switch wasn't out. Nothing here screams significant.
Splatoon 2 isn't a bad game, but saying it should be a 9 or 10 because it does the same things slightly better, is not a cause for praise.
Also, corrolation does not means causation. Comparing this game to CoD is a logical fallocy, as those here on NintendoLife, or fans of Nintendo, as not necessarily fans of CoD. This is not a good excuse to write off other's impressions of the game.
Was expecting an 8 maybe a 9 but a 10 might have to get this straight away now.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE NintendoLife will never say something bad about Nintendo or any of it's 1st party games. This 10/10 was to be expected.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE reviews like this are the reason I've been checking this website less and less. I can deal with unprofessional journalism, but I can't stand puffing.
So this is the way it's going to be, I guess. NL will be good to Nintendo UK and Nintendo UK will reward them with promos, codes, exclusive interviews, access to events etc. We even ditched the old "score pending" for games with massive online components because this generation Nintendo has to do well or NL won't do well.
@FlameRunnerFast It doesn't really matter if Nintendo fans would buy CoD or not (and yes, some of us do...and even on Nintendo systems), because that has nothing to do with the comparison being valid. The point being that CoD games almost always get smashing scores every time...for very few upgrades to the previous games. They are pretty much iterations of the same game with maybe a few small gameplay differences. You might as well say that the zombie horde mode could have been patched into the previous versions of the game as an extra mode...so why bother coming out with a new game? Also, the graphical differences between Splatoon 1 and 2 are readily apparent if you are running the games side by side. Easily an upgrade in appearance. Just because they haven't changed the aesthetic of the game does not mean it isn't a jump in graphical fidelity. Its changes like these that ARE done in a sequel to a game, with the same game style and play kept in tact, but adding new features and things to it. Would it have been possible to patch ALL of the extras into Splatoon 1? Maybe. But it doesn't make them less valid in the sequel game.
Another example would be the Elder Scrolls games. They are basically each the same game...with slight game tweaks to change them up a little. But are they different games? No. All good games in my opinion...but each time you buy a new one its basically just for a new story...or maybe a new ability (the dragon shouts from Skyrim for example). Or racing games such as Forze. They aren't massively changed on each release...but they get great scores nonetheless. Why? Because they are still great games in their own right, if you like those kind of games.
The point is, not every game is going to be a major shakeup on an established formula...but that doesn't stop them from being very good and enjoyable experiences on their own...without being completely different from their predecessors.
So, is this any good? I'm confused. The review says one thing; people's reactions to the review say something else...
@Krillin_ In my opinion, it's a fantastic game.
People focus way too much on the number, just don't bother with that pointless discussion. If you have the time, check out some video reviews, gameplays and so on, that should be enough for you to make a decision on this game
@BornInNorway81 I thought my 1600+ hours were a lot. Kudos!
@DarkVortex I'd give the first Splatoon a 10/10 but I had a slight addiction to it. It is the first game I have loved in years. I can see why some would give it an 8 or 9 though.
"I should really stop looking at Nintendo Life's comments, they are toxic and the responses I give don't help in that regard."
fast forward 2 days
"You know, I'm curious, let's see what people are saying about Splatoon 2."
reads
"Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope"
I have amazing opinions on products I don't own. Fantastic opinions. Some of the best opinions in the world. You should see them. They're something else. True story.
@Highlar
Which reviewers have given Splatoon 2 a low score but a COD a high score? Without specific examples it's a meaningless comparison.
@FlameRunnerFast
"All of these things could have been added to the original Wii U splatoon if the Wii U was a success and the Switch wasn't out"
It wasn't though and they weren't. So it doesn't matter.
@MoonKnight7 lol you could, but i think it may still put in 2117 when everyone is already lvl 50
@electrolite77 Examples (even though my comments weren't on specific scores but more the reasoning behind scores)? Okay...let's see:
GamingTrendNov 5, 2015 "100" (For Black Ops 3)
How would I describe it in a single word? Fantastic! If this is the kind of work a three-year development cycle can give a AAA game, then I don’t want to see Black Ops 4 until 2018, and counting down the days to it’s release.
GamingTrendJul 18, 2017 "85" (For Splatoon 2)
Splatoon 2 adds some great new weapons and decent new modes, but an over-reliance on the its familiar formula keeps it from feeling like a full-blown sequel.
The Digital FixNov 18, 2016 "80" (CoD: Infinite Warefare)
Thrilling and polished, Infinite Warfare is a generously loaded game but one that does nothing new against its rivals.
The Digital Fix Nov 8, 2016 "90" (Modern Warfare Remastered)
Even now, Modern Warfare is pushing boundaries, just in newer ways. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered sets a standard that shames other so-called ‘remastered’ titles.
The Digital FixJul 18, 2017 "70" (Splatoon 2)
A few extra bells and whistles keeps Splatoon 2 relevant and fun on its new platform, but Nintendo plays it a little too safe for hardened Splatters.
VideoGamerNov 9, 2016 "90" (CoD: Infinite Warefare)
It's great - I can see myself playing it for months to come - but it is just Call of Duty with a fresh lick of paint, and with competition as stiff as it is, no one could blame you for sitting this year's game out. But to do so would be to miss out on one of the finest Call of Duty campaigns yet, and an online multiplayer that stands up with the best of them.
VideoGamerJul 18, 2017 "80" (Splatoon 2)
Despite imperfections, Splatoon 2 improves on the original, and is a colourful, joyous addition to the Switch.
The problem, of course, is in finding sites that have scored both a CoD game AND Splatoon 2 already...but as you can see, there are sites giving the "Splatoon 2 is more of the same...although great!" line...but not necessarily for CoD...or even if they DO...still rank it at a higher level because...CoD! And honestly, I have no problem with someone giving a game a higher or lower score based on personal opinion, as I said earlier, but its inconsistencies between franchises that I find hard to swallow.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Reviews have called the single player "competent single player mode". There are many games in the past where NL was actually below average. Each reviewer is different. If the Nintendo Life score would always be around the average, it would be completely boring, uninteresting and irrelevant.
@Highlar
Yeah but, unless you've specifically got the same reviewer (not the same site, same reviewer) doing that it's not a relevant comparison. And even then, it's still just an individual opinion.
@Eddyson I mean, it is NintendoLife after all.
To me, the most telling part of this review is the complete absence of any discussion revolving around the lack of a second screen experience (due to the nature of Switch vs. Wii U).
It really goes to show how irrelevant the dual screen gaming concept was.
Is there any local multiplayer to this game, hopefully better than what was in the original?
This comment section... Stay fresh people!
I hated the first Splatoon at first, was going to trade it in, but I got hooked and never looked back.
Hoping my Splatoon 2 Switch pre-order comes through. Not long now.
Can't get behind Splatoon with its gimped online system and customization. Nonetheless I am quite happy to see such a glowing review, and hope the game is as enjoyable for returning fans. Another hit game on the Switch goes a long way to drive sales and continued success.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "Reviews and review scores should be based on other people's reviews and scores"
10/10 yay!!! i know a review is just someone else's view and different people are going to like different games. but when you like a game as much as i like splatoon its nice to see it get a great score from others as well
@gatorboi352
I still use and enjoy my wii U gamepad.
It's nice not having to look at a tiny map on the gamepad, always wished you could bring up the map on the main screen in Splatoon 1.
I'm still not interested until there's a real deathmatch mode and a Joycon only motion control scheme.
@BornInNorway81 2000 hours?!! Sir, I am in awe!
PS. I wonder if they'll make the Salmon Run mode permanently accessible at some point? Hmm. Either way, I'm getting Splatoon 2 tomorrow (Friday) and I can't wait
I loved the original, and I can't wait to play the new one!
That being said, I have already read a few legitimate complaints from other reviews about the single player mode (still with the hard to find invisible stages?) online multiplayer (No improvement to the load-out in the lobby problem) and voice chat issues (wtf is going on there?)... That stuff alone makes me feel the 10/10 is a little misleading.
@BulbasaurusRex
Wait, there's no motion control built into the joycon? I'm confused...
@Ogre Ah, OK, it is an offered control scheme (which should've been mentioned in the review). The turf war basis is still a boring way to play a shooter, though.
Sadly, the label comes off after only 12 straight hours of kissing it.
Just picked mine up from GAME and cant wait to play it.............shame I think I'll have to wait until Sunday evening though
Just got it, plugged it in, 7 year old says "I'm so excited" then we realize there is no form of split screen in any way. Sure the game may be good but nintendos new portable platform that's supposed to be shared with family and friends fails on splatoon 2 miserably for my family. I'm not spending $350 on a 7 year old so we can both play.
I think this review, in regards to the others, sums up both Splatoon games. Some see that it's a good game, but don't get hooked (the 7 and 8's), while others get really hooked (the 9's and this 10).
As others have pointed out, I don't get the "more of the same" points that some reviewers point out either. EA releases FIFA every single year, and it seldom feels like a new game, more like updates to existing games. Yet, I don't see FIFA getting 6 and 7's each year.
Excellent review. However I have to disagree because the multiplayer with friends is very limited. You can't chose teams in online vs other people. Chat is not avialable either in friends play and co op salamon run which could take care of all that isn't there all the time. I don't have a room full of friends that own switches so making a lobby and doing matches isn't going to happen anytime soon. I tried yesterday with folks on this very site and nobody was even doing it. I'd say because the game as a whole 8/10. That's just my humble opinion.
I am not sure if I'll pick it up down the line. I am always just interested in the single-player. And while the single-player does look like fast fun (with crazy bosses) I have to admit I am just not a big fan of the "Japanese street-creddits" style splattered all over the game. Wich was of course also the case with the first title. I appreciate Nintendo doing new franchises, but maybe Splatoon is not for me.
As for that other new franchise: Arms looks amazing, but seems to have very little single-player content.
On a sidenote: You can bet Mario oddysey will also get a 10 and people on this site will love it, declaring it game of the year. However, when the Game of the year poll arrives on this site I hope people will remember Zelda! People tend to go for the newest title, but I can't see the new Mario being better then Breath of the wild (still, I won't play Mario this year. So I can't really judge). I am not blown away from what I have seen of the new Mario yet, but that's personal taste.
Hopefully people's awareness for that Zelda-title returns when the proper dlc arrives?
"Gone is the need to use a second screen; instead, everything has been streamlined so that your focus is never away from the action." This is what I was saying all along, when you lot were all pretending that a second screen was some amazing, game-changing innovation...! Grrr...
I know review scores are subjective, which is why many reviewers argue to get rid of them, but I respectfully disagree with your score on this one. This is practically a re-release of Splatoon 1 with a few minor improvements. However, it's what is missing that is the problem. The online chat is abysmal. It is an embarrassment that in 2017, Nintendo still can't figure out online at least to the level of Microsoft of 2007. Add to that the lack of couch co-op (unless you have multiple Switches and multiple copies of the same game), and this is inexcusable. The Switch has been touted as a couch co-op system. The #1 selling point has been how it comes with 2 controllers out of the box. Even the Wii U version had an offline multiplayer mode (even though it stunk). If we can play 4 player Mario Kart on one screen, why can't we at least have 2 player split screen for this game? Considering that this is basically the same thing as a 2 year old game with even less functionality, I would think NL's rating would have to go down instead of giving it a perfect 10.
Just waiting for my local video games store to make a discounted bundle...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE The thing is that all reviews by nature are subjective. They can give it whatever score they like. Whether they are being biased or unbiased doesn't really matter.
@bonham2 The main attraction of Splatoon has always been its online multiplayer, so Im not suprised that they didn't add a splitscreen option. Also, playing splitscreen in tabletop mode would be painfully hard since the screen size isn't very big, which was probably one factor they considered. When a Switch game is being developed, they think of how it will work with all configurations, not just one. Also, with the voice chat app, its still in a beta (or maybe even alpha..) stage right now and its free until next year. Can't really complain about something that is free. Once they put a price tag on it and still haven't made it better, then feel free to complain
Like some have said. I like this site and its enthusiasm towards Nintendo, but it is losing a some of its status with its review scores. I have always thought 'Edge' magazine really hard to please so when they gave Breath of the Wild a 10 I knew it meant something. Over the years they have given so few 10s that it really feels like an event. I tend to ignore the scores here as they are just not accurate. ARMS a 9 ??? There is a balance and everyone has a right to their opinion, but I fail to see how Splatoon is a 10. Especially as this review went up before the the servers had even been tested. If all these early games are 10s then where do we go from here ?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE ikr? They mentioned the mainly Single Player parts and glossed over the positive aspects of the game while barely covering the fact that it still has the same issues that the original game had.
I find it totally bizarre that Alex would dare score this a 10 when there are glaring issues with it.
1. The voice chat function is too convoluted and pointless and really sucks any enjoyment out of trying to voice chat with the Switch app.
2. The most basic of multiplayer systems does not feature in this game. The fact that you cannot play together with friends, on the same team, until you reach rank B- and level 10 is simply absurd. And even then you can only play together on the same team in League modes. Ridiculous.
So on both of these points Alex, Nintendo have not listened to the community and frankly I am surprised that not more of a fuss has been kicked up about how Nintendo are handling multiplayer considering Splatoon 2 is supposedly their big e-sport claim.
It really saddens me that for all the things Nintendo do right they fail on so many others that just negates all the positives.
I've been playing Splatoon 2 all weekend. It's very much more of the same, but everything just seems slicker and more refined. Personally I'm not interested in voice chat, although I would agree that the new voice app seems like a total omnishambles. I'd certainly rate Splatoon 2 highly, but at the moment I'd reserve my 10s for Breath of the Wild.
@drewber2635 I respectably disagree. I can complain about something that is free when it affects a game that is $59.99. The fact is that Nintendo took a step backwards with their online system and STILL can't catch up to Microsoft from 2007. The 360 came with a headset, friend lists (where you could actually talk to your friends), cross game communication, and online chat. The chat part was hidden behind a pay wall, but the rest was included for free. Nintendo can't get voice chat right 10 years later, and it affects a game that, as you put it, is online multplayer based.
About split screen, Mario Kart splits the screen in 4, which is ridiculously small when portable, but it works great on my HDTV. I don't think split screen is asking too much for a multiplayer game ESPECIALLY when it's the Switches #1 selling point. Nintendo promotes "couch co-op" more than anyone else. The main selling feature of the Switch is instant multiplayer. And then they don't include it at all. I can't play this game with anyone in my house unless I buy multiple Switches and multiple copies of Splatoon 2.
Why is stage rotation limited to just two stages at a time? Why not four? Why limit the stages available at all and just have all available all the time? I'm genuinely curious here, seems an odd and rather restrictive system. I've played a fair bit and can't say I've played most stages because they're never available when I play. I'm not familiar with the FPS online scene but this isn't the norm across the board is it? So does anyone know?
@Baker1000 although I've had the game from launch and enjoy it. Just thought I'd read the review and comments; I was literally thinking the same thing as what's in your post - I get a bit bored of the same old maps over and over and although I love this game it just pusheses it out from being a 10/10 to a 9 in my opinion. I think they did it like that to focus the multiplayer player base so that there's always enough players on the map servers to populate games. But I might be wrong?!?
@GZeus Not to rain on your parade buuuuuuut like half of what you said isn't true. You can join your friends in turf war no matter the level, and, you can't join your friends in ranked because the creators of splatoon don't want friends just farming off each other to get experience... also sorry for this comment being like 8 months late whoops :3
10?! I'll give it 100!
Just upgraded from Splatoon 1 a couple weeks ago. Is appallingly difficult to play this game on the same team as your friends. First, get to level 10 to unlock ranked mode. Play ranked with your friends like in Splatoon? No. Get to rank B- in one of the ranked modes, which all rank up individually now - obviously the rotation means it takes longer to rank up. Only once you’ve jumped through all those hoops can you use the option to play online on the same team as your friends, this option is now called league battle, an option that exists in the game that you’ve paid £50 for but which you aren’t allowed to use until you’ve spent however long playing the game. It’s immensely frustrating and has taken the joy out of ranked mode for me, for the time being - I’m just grinding it so I can play with my friends.
I feel as though Nintendo has absolutely no respect for our time
Why isn’t any of this in the review @AlexOlney ?
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