
There’s a good chance you’ve never considered the possibility of using first-party controllers on other platforms. Generally, you use the pad that comes with the console, and that's it. But what if you could break down boundaries and have total freedom of which controller to use? The Brook Wingman P5S may be the answer.
This is the latest in a line of converters from accessory manufacturer Brook, one that’s been designed specifically for the Switch 1 & 2, PS4/PS5, and PC. Previous versions have been particularly well-received in the fighting game community, with the Wingman FGC converter — which is designed for arcade sticks — winning the EVO Award for Best Product.
The P5S, priced at $79.99, will be more up your alley if you’re looking to play with more standard controllers on Switch and PlayStation.

From my experience, I’ve been playing Switch 2 games with a Dualsense, an official Xbox Series controller, and a Nacon Revolution pad for the PS4 that I managed to borrow for testing. All work flawlessly. You plug the converter into your Switch dock, then use the included cable to physically hook up your controller. Once you’ve established an initial connection, you can link your pad up wirelessly from then on.
What’s impressive is that the controllers I’ve used – which are registered by the Switch as Pro Controllers – are all instantly mapped correctly according to the standard Nintendo setup. So on the Xbox controller, for instance, ‘B’ is mapped to ‘A’ when using it on Switch 2 – there’s no need to fiddle around with the settings. Rumble functions and motion controls also work as intended.
Similarly, input lag is kept to a minimum, and I didn’t notice anything egregious whether playing wired or wireless. Frankly, the first time I started navigating the Switch 2 home screen with a Dualsense pad, I felt like I was doing something dodgy. Brook itself even states on its website: “It shouldn’t work – but it does”, and that’s my takeaway following my tests.
Of course, you can go the opposite way, too, and use the Wingman to hook your Pro Controller 2 up to your PS5. Again, it works like a charm with all of the inputs mapped correctly, and there’s no getting around the fact that the Pro Controller 2 runs rings around the Dualsense with its smooth-gliding analogue sticks.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of controllers I own are already compatible with Switch, so a lot of my tests involved using the PS5. That said, everything I tried works perfectly fine, whether it’s the 8BitDo Pro 3, the Gulikit TT Max, or the Mobapad Chitu2 HD. I'm sure there will be some that won't be compatible, but Brook has included a laundry list of devices that you'll be fine to use on its site, and it's pretty extensive.
It's also recently released a firmware update to allow the new Steam Controller to work on the Switch 2, so I’ll be testing that out as soon as I’m able. Similarly, for fighting enthusiasts, the company has stated its intention to allow compatibility with Sony’s upcoming Flexstrike arcade stick, due for launch on 6th August.

The target audience for the Wingman P5S is likely going to be pretty small. Even if you own more than one console, chances are that you're happy to use whichever controllers came with them as standard. But if you’re absolutely dead set on using one specific pad for all of your gaming needs, the P5S does a great job at enabling instant compatibility across multiple systems.
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Thanks to Brook for providing the sample used in this review.





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I had to re-read that headline about ten times to get my brain to understand that the device was called a P-5-S and not a “PlayStation 5” 🤣
Really would love this for the PS5 to use the NSO controllers I've got
Honestly I don't see this as that useful for the Switch 2 but boy howdy my PlayStations could use one. I guess that's the takeaway here, too lol
@Sonicka same here!
So if I get this right, in effect I could use the same set of controllers on all systems by moving the usb stick before next gaming session? That would be really useful! The only issue is the front of the ps5 is usb3 type c, and this has a type a connector, so would have to cable that a bit makeshift style. But I have a draw of controllers right now, would be nice to condense to 2-3 and play those three accross my steam deck, switch 2 and ps5, just by swapping the usb. I wonder how many controllers can be paired with this?
Tbh the price kind of makes up for it since it would save you money having to buy extra controllers when you may have extra controllers lying around for your playstation or something that you can now use and vice versa.
It's niche but if you own 2 consoles - seems like a good deal
That's a cool invention but I wouldn't wanna use anything other than a Switch 2 Pro controller since that's the most comfortable pad to me.
Made me look at my old Mayflash magic something adaptor which was a fifth of the price or something? And has USB throughput. This P5S thing is really expensive. Unless it can connect to multiple controllers at the same time but I’m guessing it can’t.
I was never impressed with these multi step things to achieve something so little.
Thanks for the review, not interested in this myself (at least for now, I'll keep it in mind if I ever need such a thing), but glad to hear it's great for those who are - cool idea and nice that they're releasing updates to further extend the compatibility!
Honestly, most people should just use the Switch 2 pro controller for the full feature set (HD Rumble 2 and console wake especially) and seamless ease of use with the console.
My recent forays into the world of 3rd party joy cons with the Mobapad M12 HDs (which I regret buying) has taught me the simple joy of sticking to the official controllers.
The price! Just get a Switch 2 Pro Controller. Its lovely, relatively cheap (in EU) and gets you all the features you need for Switch 2.
I know you say that you don't have to remap the buttons, but does it let you remap the buttons? Some controllers like the NSO controllers don't let you.
"Brook Wingman" sounds likes a Fox News anchor. Awful, awful name.
Why on earth would anyone want to use any other controllers than what Nintendo has made and designed to perfection for Nintendo consoles. On the other hand, I completely understand Playstation, Xbox and PC players dying for to get to use Nintendo controllers.
If this was cheaper it might be interesting for multiplayer sessions using an old controller. For this price you could better just buy a new controller tho. Also curious if this is really that much better than the much cheaper 8bitdo USB Wireless Adapter 2 🤔
@olliemar28 Do you know if I can use analog triggers for racing games on Switch using an XB/PS controller?
@Switching Official first party controllers all the way on all platforms. Why give up HD Rumble 2 on Switch 2? Why dive up dual sense features on PS5?
@RBRTMNZ Nope, Switch software doesn't support it. So you just get physical analogue travel for digital inputs.
Pretty neat but honestly the pro controller is probably in my top 3 controllers of all time.
Don't see much appeal in the other companies, especially the playstation ones...
Though one flaw I'd give the pro controller would be it's D-pad, that and it's drift.
@NerdyPaul @Switching So many reasons. Better durability, HAL/TMR, swappable magnetic buttons, swappable analog sticks, extra programmable buttons and triggers, extreme compatibility, better battery...
An 8BitDo Pro 3 goes for about 50 USD, charging dock included. Honestly, first-party controllers are a scam by this point. It's unbelievable that people are asked 65 to 100 USD for a controller with no HAL/TMR. And that's coming from someone who really liked the DualSense's ergonomics.
Besides, the cost-benefit difference is even greater in other countries. Where I live, a Dualsense or Switch Pro Controller 2 (which, again, features no HAL or TMR) costs three times as much as an 8BitDo Pro 3, meaning you could get three of them for the price of one first-party controller.
Isn't the 8bitdo adapter much, much cheaper and do the same thing?
I use mine with my old Wii U pro pad and my Xbox pads.
Can controllers wake the console through this?
I occasionally use the Pro Controller 2 when I don't need accurate movement, but the d-pad's false inputs and the analog stick snapback make it unsuitable for most of the games I play. I have an Elves 2 and a TT Max from Gulikit which are both excellent.
@Switching Some people want “Analog triggers” particularly for driving games. I’m happy with the pro controller too personally
@shake_zula no Switch 2 communication protocol = no console wake. Just one more feature you sacrifice
@DiamondJim Analog triggers on a controller for Switch 2 is useless because the games can't use them.
@olliemar28 I'd love to see input lag tests of this thing.
I remember - somewhat surprisingly - any controller connected to the Switch 1's USB port had inherent input lag. Significantly more than wireless controllers.
Hopefully the Switch 2 is improved in that regard.
I've been using the Gulikit Elves 2 and it's much better than I expected, better input lag than any other controller, and HE sticks. Crazy for the price.
So... this is a standard feature on Switch 1. I've already used PS controllers on it. Is it not standard on S2?
@cvrator Just what im thinking as sure enough a pro2 controller would work better on almost* any game on a ps5.
*thats not astro bot with it's haptic feedback.
My trusty old wingman XE2 is still working great on Switch 2 after a firmware update.
But I am started to get PS5 games that dont support PS4 controllers, which is annoying...
Does it work with this controller? I think it would be great on Mario Kart.
Seems like there are 3 proprietary protocols; Switch, Xbox and Playstation but any of those controllers will work over bluetooth on pc, android, ios and mac but not cross compatible over the consoles themselves as each console manufacturer only wants their single protocol supported on third party controllers. This seems far too expensive for what it is and also is it officially licensed if console manufacturers don't allow joypads to have more than one protocol?
I just want maximum battery life no matter what system I'm using. If I can get better battery life than the Pro Controller 2 then I would buy that controller.
I'd bite for about half that price.
May as well just get the Pro controller for a little more
This looks good but luckily my favourite controller of all, the S2 pro controller already works! lol
Switch 2 Pro Controller is great so I don't see a need for other controllers on Switch 2, but for Xbox, that I would like since the offers on Xbox aren't that good and Microsoft's own controllers are really poor quality and loud. GameSir is great but wired and durability is around 2 years.
The same company offers the XE2 which also works for Switch 2, and is cheaper, in fact it works on the same consoles than this model minus the PS5, but it does support PS3 which this converter doesn’t for whatever reason.
@Krlozgod I’ve got the XE2 to use a Dualsense on my PS3, works flawlessly, didn’t know it’s compatible with the Switch 2!
I've got 2 Switch 2 Pro Controllers, a Gamecube, N64 and SNES NSO controllers, so using a Dualsense is just an inferior experience at this point
@IllusiveMan I also bought it for the DualSense on my PS3, but I wouldn’t say it works flawlessly, sometimes (rarely) it disconnects and everytime I power on the console it must be connected wired to register.
I was surprised it also works on the Switch 2, and it works better on Switch 2 than on PS3 on my opinion.
@NerdyPaul @RBRTMNZ @DiamondJim games absolutely can and do use analogue triggers on the Switch, unfortunately this is limited to the Gamecube controller, NSO or og with its adaptor. So as these controllers through the Brook Wingman are registered as Pro Controllers, the analogue triggers won't work for compatible games
I've used brook converters for years and years on a slew of different consoles, and can confirm that they are excellent! As stated in the article, my uses were mostly related to fight sticks, but they worked great for everything I threw at them. I've even daisy chained multiple together without any noticeable lag. Great products from this company!
I need this for my fight sticks. I don’t like the hori hrap switch stick as much but I am too lazy to mod it. I am building my hobby space back up so that may change.
I’d get the wingman NS though.
Edit: sigh guess I am not buying soil tomorrow.
They are not cheap, but I have two Brook adapters and what I can say is that they are reliable and updated regularly. I have one for using Xbox controllers on PS4 and Switch and another one for using PS contro.., wait, I'd never do that, a PS Mad Catz fighting stick on Xbox. The last Nintendo pro controller I bought was the Wii U pro controller. I've been using Xbox controllers since then.
80 bucks lol
At that cash just grab a Switch 2 Pro controller bro
My 8bitDo dongle for the original Switch was like $20
What now, RAM prices affecting dongles too?😂
A joke in my eyes.
Way too expensive for me. If I was in a situation of frequently playing multi player games, owned different consoles, and friends didn't bring their controllers, I'd definitely consider the P5S. Yes, the name is very confusing!
Currently, I own a PS4 (rarely play it), so it's encouraging that the controllers on that older console work with this device. I also own an Xbox Series controller for general use for games on phones and even my ancient PC.
WiiU Pro isn't listed in the compatibility list.
Surely it's supported?
@NerdyPaul GRID Autosport and Legends are compatible with analogue triggers. And Trials Legends and the NSO GameCube games. Maybe Smash Bros. Ultimate? Think that’s all the games
@Switching Lol. Yeah ive never heard of a single PC player wanting to use joycons, ever. Even when emulating.
@Switching Is that sarcasm?
@NerdyPaul
Why didn't you like Mobapad's new joycons? I was thinkig about getting them. I had their previous iteration for the Switch and they were really solid in terms of sticks, buttons and the way they attached to the tablet.
@Bydlak The connection to the console is extremely janky as it took ages for them to register on the console and I even had them disconnect in the middle of the game.
If you are looking at the Mobapad M12, my advice is avoid the HD variant and go for the S variant. The S ones use the Switch 2 protocol so the connection should be more robust and you get a proper chat button (the HDs use macro nonsense) and proper GL/GR buttons. You do sacrifice NFC and HD Rumble but then the HDs have rumble from the Switch 1, not Switch 2.
@NerdyPaul
I see, thanks for the exhaustive info!
Brook makes amazing products. Love the comments saying just use a 100 dollar nintendo controller that will drift and still has a crappy d-pad and layout.
I'm considering the upcoming 8BitDo Ultimate 3E Controller for my Xbox and Switch (with the appropriate adapter): TMR sticks, swappable membrane/micro-switch ABXY module, SNES/MD swappable D-pad, charging dock and case.
Nice. I prefer SegaSaturn-kind controller to play my Fighting Games. I have the 8bitdo "sega saturn" controller, and the playstation street fighter special edition (sega saturn format).
@NerdyPaul I didn’t like how Moba pad split the features across the M12S and HD versions.
After looking at reviews on YouTube by a channel called 128KB, I decided to get in a set of NYXI Hyperion 3 Joy cons.
They wake up the Switch 2 but only have Hall sticks not TMR. The buttons are great though and the d-pad is excellent for fighting games. I do find that the handles on them are rather large though.
I was desperate for a nice responsive, clicky d-pad for 2D games.
Is it this expensive because it's the first on the market? I'm sure 8bitdo did one for the switch that was around £20.
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