
It's perhaps fair to say that Switch 2 exclusive The Duskbloods has many FromSoftware fans feeling rather conflicted. The focus is very much on PvP gameplay, which isn't totally alien to players of Dark Souls and Elden Ring, but suggested to some that the game might not have the strong single-player focus and narrative we've come to admire in FromSoftware's titles.
In an interview with Nintendo, FromSoftware boss Hidetaka Miyazaki has moved to dampen these fears, pointing out that the mechanics will allow players who don't like PvP to still enjoy themselves:
The Duskbloods implements “Victory Points,” which are responsible for ultimately deciding the outcome of a match. To obtain Victory Points, direct combat is of course important, but it’s not the only way. Some players may prefer to earn points by avoiding direct combat and instead engaging in more opportunistic behavior. How you earn points is entirely up to you.
Miyazaki then goes on to outline the way variables within each match help keep things fresh:
Another important aspect is match variables, such as the event system. This system has the potential to alter the course of the match, such as special enemy spawns and additional objectives with accompanying bonus rewards.
In the trailer, you may have noticed a giant stone face looming in the sky. This is one example of the events that can occur in a match. In this case, the appearance of this stone face affects the environment and changes match rewards, which can have an immediate impact on player motivations and objectives.
These events don’t happen all the time, and I hope discovering them gives players some incentive to keep coming back.
The interviewer makes the observation that "even those who tend to shy away from PvP can still enjoy themselves," to which Miyazaki says:
That was the intention. I personally am not much of a PvP person, and I wanted to make something that’s satisfying even for players like me.
While the goal of a match is to obtain First Blood, there are personal objectives that provide separate rewards to the player as well, so I hope these add to the fun of each engagement.
[source nintendo.com]
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The thing is that people want to explore lonely, dangerous worlds filled with secrets and wonder in From Software games. Not play "matches."
I won't write this off entirely yet, but this feels like a VERY wasted opportunity for Nintendo to have its own cool Souls-like title.
So, it's a From Software game, but it's PvP? I'm out.
And the live service, mp movement claims its next victim....
I will let them cook but this seems like a odd choice.
Kinda disappointed Nintendo chose this as their FromSoftware exclusive when there was apparently other ideas put forward during the meeting.
They should do an offline mode so you can play solo against bots. Would make it easier to explore the new world they’ve made and also make it easier to practice
My excitement for this title has plummeted since I learned it's more focused on PvP, I just don't play that kind of game anymore, but I'm willing to give it a chance, it does seem quite unique if nothing else.
Funnily enough it being PvP means that I might eventually get this... if my friends get it in the first place, that is - regardless, the event system is quite reminiscent of City Trial from Kirby Air Ride which is great!
So, erm... yeah... what's PvP?
They managed to get me hyped for their newest game only for me to find out that it has PVP/multiplayer focus twice within less than half a year
@AshleyGamer64 Player versus player... rather than PvE, which is player versus enemies (i.e. single player or cooperative)
@mariomaster96 Same, dude... same. I might still be interested in this and Nightreign, but I'm definitely less enthused than I would have been for new single-player games.
So far it feels like invasions, which is a souls staple. How many underwear only, rolling invaders running around killing you while you are trying to survive? I think there is an audience for this because there is a subset of Souls players that basically do PvP all day. Granted, I don’t like most souls games in general but I had to turn off online features for games that had invasions because they are so popular for higher level players to come in and wreck you.
I think that just as usual people are getting angry and discarding something quite fast. As for saying that FromSoftware fans don't want to play PVP, you guys should know that it has always been a big part of the experience, regardless of how you feel about it. I was a fan since Demon's Souls (PS3). I understand that a lot of people simply prefer the single player experience and there will be Elden Ring for that, but at least wait some time before hating on something. The only thing that you will accomplish is to not experiment a potentially great game, maybe disuade others that succumb easily to other's opinions and to stop having this kind of unique projects on the console.
Damn I was so hyped during the announcement trailer and no there’s no chance I’ll be buying this. I hope he gets back to single player at some point
I wasn't interested in yet another From Software game anyway since once you've played one, you've played them all (courtesy of them reusing so many assets and the same combat system including the animations).
This being multiplayer only means I'm double not interested.
Now we can't even make the joke that's it's Bloodborne 2 for the Switch.
I think it's over for From Software. There's people like me who have got tired of their overused formula and realised they're the new Bethesda/Ubisoft early.
Then there's the new people introduced from Elden Ring who will not like this live service, Fortnite, multiplayer direction From Software is going with Nightreign and now this. And I think they'll rip From apart when they do make their next Elden Ring/Dark Souls and it's the exact same game right down to the same animations and combat. They'll be saying, several years for the same game?
God, even the walking animations shown in the trailer has that usual stiff walk animation that From has been using since Dark Souls 1.
@mariomaster96 fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice… well, I still feel like it’s shame on them because that trailer was ambiguous as hell
Can I just have a single-player campaign, please?
@roy130390 everybody knows the pvp invasions thing is part of their games.
Likewise many people know they don't enjoy mp focused games and particularly with randoms.
It may be the greatest game ever made, but I will never know first hand because it doesn't meet my interests.
That isn't hate as you out it, it is simply disappointment in what I thought was going to be the next big Fromsoft game.
Damn the hype and then the disappointment with this was massive.
@Medic_alert No, they don't. A lot of peole aren't familiar with the Souls games and even when they have played them, barely touch that part of the game and know how deep it goes.
As I said, I'm aware that a lot of people enjoy the single player experience and aren't interested on the online and that's valid. But going out and saying that it will be "bad", that they sold out or assuring that the community as a whole won't be interested is wrong. I also understand that they are free to have and communicate wathever opinion they want, but mark my words. They'll go out of their way to post how unhappy they are in every article instead of just moving on for the people that are actually interested.
The message is clearly talking about a certain kind of person. If you aren't them, then there's no reason to feel attacked.
@roy130390 I don't know which gaming forums you spend time on but anyone who has ever played one of these games knows about it, quite strange that you think they don't. There are literally tonnes of videos of this stuff online too.
Seems like you are trying to shut down opinions in a comment section online to me. I wish you luck with that.
@Medic_alert Not only it's literally impossible for everyone to know about something, but for example, a lot of people don't play online.Being literal tons of videos doesn't equal to them engaging with said content, and watching a few doesn't equal to understand how deep the pvp scene goes. Not to mention that a lot of people just play games and barely engage in forums or don't do it at all.
Seems to me that you are the one actually trying to shut down mine, as I didn't direct it to anyone unlike you. I'm aware that people will do it and there's no stopping that. I simply expressed why it's annoying and tiring for me and how it won't have any positive effects. And for some reason, that seemed to have offended you.
@Ralizah Exactly. A new Dark Souls / Bloodborne / Elden Ring I would have been the first in line, the exploration is what drives me in these games and makes me persevere to beat the bosses in order to continue exploring. Fights without exploration is not for me.
@roy130390 I didn't come on here telling people not to feel negativity about this game and not to talk about it. You didn't direct it at anyone you just decided to tell the whole forum.
I also never mentioned going deep with the mechanic, just awareness of it. Gamers know it is there, the games literally tell you.
I'm not offended by anything you said, I just replied to your comment with a counter point because I believe you are wrong.
I'm really not big on competitive games. If I can still have fun while actively avoiding other players or if they just let me jump into the arena by myself and beat up the npcs, then I might consider it. Some of those things still look like really fun fights.
@Medic_alert That's the point of forums. I can say how I feel, just as others. I didn't come here to tell anyone about not feeling negative though, I said that people should at least give them time and if they aren't interested on this that there's another product coming that they can check.
Ok, so they know about invasions happening. Good, I guess? That doesn't equal knowing how big it is, which is from my original comment that you replied to. Never said anything about people not knowing that there's online. Ok, so they know it has online features...
Good to know that you aren't offended. Personally I think that, based on what you said about me saying that people shouldn't feel negative towards the game that is nowhere in my comments, you misunderstood me. I just said that people should give it a chance before discarding it and giving it hate. You thought that meant any kind of negativity and then I clarified what I meant by it but you keep insisting on it.
I prefer 1 player offline experiences
Yeah, we see how it goes and I will try the game once its out but my initial hype for this is barely still standing…
Interested in finding out how this will play. I'm getting Elden Ring for Switch 2, which we already know is good, so if this turns out poorly I won't mind so much.
So is not a story driven open world exploration game. Is a PvP focused game.....meaning multiplayer focus. You play "matches" and there could be events "during a match"....where's the exploration? where's the open world? is there even a story? This reminds me of Titan Fall and their attempt to multiplayer only game where the story was during a match. I don't know, I'll keep my eye on it but it won't be a day 1 buy for me
So this is not a proper From Software game in the style of their usual releases. That is disappointing as I have no great interest in multi player focused games. At least there is still the Elden Ring port, just hope it runs well.
make it pay2win too! At least that would clear out the all day playing crowd
Ugh! I'm just learning about this for the first time. This was the BEST THING in the Direct for me, and now I find out it is something I have absolutely NO interest in. All Miyazaki reassurances did is assure me that this is something I want no part of. I'm the type of gamer that has never played Demon's Souls or Dark Souls online because I want to avoid this stuff. It not just about not liking PvP. I just want to play an RPG and explore a well-crafted world ALONE! I've been a fan of From since the King's Field days. This is SO disappointing!
If there's no single player mode then I'm not playing this, simple as that. I'll write it off like I did with that Déraciné game he made as it required PSVR to play. He's one of my favourite game directors of all time, but it doesn't mean I need to play absolutely EVERY game he'll ever make.
Honestly, the thing I now find most disappointing about all this is that it means we might be waiting until at least 2027 to get a new game directed by him... that ISN'T Duskbloods. I sincerely hope it isn't the only game he's been working on because the wait will be so long otherwise.
"Another important aspect is match variables, such as the event system. This system has the potential to alter the course of the match"
Looks like the game is what I feared, this is a experimental Fromsoft game where they dip their toes in multiplayer. I have no interest in having a match with anyone after I see the Fromsoftware logo 🫤
Terrible trailer, totally unclear this was a PvP game. That said, I actually subscribe to NSO because it is priced fairly, compared to PlayStation’s extremely overpriced online service, so there is at least a chance that I’d actually play this game. But we need more concrete details ASAP, because I am confused… Love you Miyazaki, but WTF!!!
Edit: Just read the interview with Miyazaki that Nintendo posted… 🤦🏻♂️ This actually sounds pretty cool, and like it’s bringing some fun ideas to the table. Willing to give it a shot!
Not interested. The pathetic attempt to convince people that people who dislike PVP will like it is sad. I guess they are finally done with making good games.
Wait, didn't they say this was PvPvE?
So it's Nightborn but with pvp as well. Gotta say I'm really bummed this isn't a new action rpg. I'll see what it's about before I make a final judgement but so far it doesn't sound good
@TruestoryYep brother you're on a site dedicated to a company that reuses Goombas and a million other things a million times like their lives depend on it, please sit down. Sekiro wasn't Bloodborne, neither of which were Elden Ring. Just say you couldn't get past the first boss in any of them 🙏
I'm very selective with the games I play online. Splatoon 3, Monster Hunter Rise, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, etc.
At first I thought nah, this won't be for me but as I learned more about it I realized it actually does appeal to me quite a bit.
Yeah, I would want to play offline, singleplayer
So your enemy might be easier to defeat because your enemy could be me?
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