Random: Someone 3D Printed The Rumoured 'Switch 2' Design

it`s NOT FINAL SWITCH 2 DESIGN !!!

This happened a ton before Switch was announced.

Anyone remember the one where the JoySticks were inside the screen?

It just Switch OLED replica with 8 inc monitor size.

I know it's not final or official, but DAYUM that's a BIG BOY.

That looks a lot bigger in comparison! I really hope we get colored buttons like the Super Famicom/SNES in Europe, that would look really cool!

I get it’s just leaked but if it turns out to be this big that would be awesome!

I prefer playing my switch docked but the bigger size would be handy, wondering though if the screen will be 1080p

Someone stole a switch 2 home and claimed it's 3d printing, we are truly in the future of leaks

Geez, this looks like it's gonna be a behemoth in size, lol. I know some people have expressed concern that it won't be as convenient to take on the go, but larger size at least means that playing with a singular Joy-Con will be much more comfortable in the hands for those who play in tabletop mode. A larger size may have also been a necessity to fit all the chip components or whatever in there to make it as powerful as it appears to be.

At the end of the day, this being a significantly more powerful version of the Switch that can stand toe-to-toe with PlayStation and Xbox fidelity is the most important thing, so I can't be too upset. But I was really hoping for like a retractable second screen or something to make it more compatible with DS/3DS games as well as to recreate the asymmetrical multiplayer of Wii U games if one of the screens can be detached and put in the dock while the other syncs up wirelessly and acts as a standalone controller. I even saw one person propose the idea that you could but these two screens back-to-back with each other for some really interesting tabletop play like a game of Battleshio, and I think that could've been awesome.

I had also really hoped the IR cameras would be moved to the top of the controller and that an IR sensor would be in the dock for Wii-level precision pointing. Maybe they've improved gyro enough that it no longer drifts or something. That would be amazing, but I'm probably just coping.

The whole thing with the OG Switch was being a "Swiss army knife" of all of Nintendo's past iterations and just hitting all that DNA into one system. I'd like to have seen them expand upon that. DS' dual screen approach and an included stylus, Wii pointer controls, Wii U asymmetrical gameplay, and even 3DS' stereoscopic 3D. The latter one is a complete pipe dream, but I thought it was such a great effect and not jusy a gimmick. I would pay extra for a 3D handheld.

But, again, while I wish there were more belle and whistles, we're at least getting the essentials. I'd rather there be no gimmicks than for Nintendo to invent some new, crappy ones that nobody cares about. I do hope that they improve upon HD rumble and make it more like the DualSense controller, though! And I'd also like the Joy-Con to be a glossy instead of matte finish and for the colors to actually match this time.

Last two things of note--it's a bummer that it presumably won't be compatible with current Joy-Con or other alternatives. I own several different colors as well as a Hori Split Pad Pro, a GameCube replica split controller, and probably more that I'm forgetting. What about charging the NES replica controllers that don't have a USB port? But I am very happy that it has a built-in microphone, which will be good for porting DS games and also presumably can be used for voice chat.

@premko1 It all sounded like gibberish to me.

Frankly now that I see it I'm even more doubtful. It looks too much like the exact same system, just bigger. I feel like even if Nintendo went with an essentially very similar concept for the switch 2 (which I hope they do) they would make a few more changes and tweaks than this.

I wouldn’t mind if it ends up being iterative like this, but I still wonder if they’re brewing something crazy different (still a hybrid). I’d still be quite happy with the Switchi, 3DSwitch, 3DSwitch XL, New Switch, and so on, though.

If it truly is just bigger and better, that’s fine. It was never meant to be a pocket console like the GBA SP or the DS Lite. The original Switch fits just fine in my backpack and this new one will too.

Nah... I call fake... its too similar and too Un-Nintendo .... I don't think they want another WiiU situation

This looks like a "Mommy, can you buy me a Switch 2? No, we already have a Switch 2 at home" situation

Wow I was not expecting to be so entertained by that video! She has great energy and funny humor. And she posited a very interesting theory about the Switch 2 containing an external camera, with the mysterious second button on the right Joycon actually serving as the camera button. Good theory on her part, and it would tie into improved motion controls, which is fun to imagine.

@tseliot Turn on the CC button in the video! She provides full English subtitles.

I miss the clamshell design of the old Nintendo handhelds… 😞

Okay, now I’m starting to get itchy for news.

Up until now I had been perfectly happy waiting but all the recent activity is starting to get to me

@Koffeeking0407 I do too! I actually hope that Nintendo makes the mini design for Switch 2 a clamshell shape rather than repeating the same Switch Lite form factor.

We're gonna need bigger pockets.

I truly hope the base model either has an OLED display or an OLED model is forthcoming. I’ve grown quite fond of the Switch OLED and, while the PlayStation Portal’s LCD display is fine, I often find myself wishing it were OLED.

@MSaturn I mean, we have no idea what to expect from the firmware yet. A lot of what sets Switch 2 apart might be tied more to its OS, especially because the substantial increase in power will likely let them get away with a more robust OS. And there's already a very substantial difference - you no longer slide in the Joy-Con from the top. They connect at the sides through a magnet mechanism. It presents some interesting questions for things like locking mechanisms for other peripherals and the reworked branding of the successor (which will at least need a substantially different take on the Switch click animation).

I can't help but suspect that I'm going to be underwhelmed by the design of the next console as it's likely to be more of the same. I'm far more interested in the games and its unique features/gimmicks.

I knew it was a fake the moment I saw it yesterday and the days before it.

@MSaturn if the 3ds > new 3ds transition is anything to go by, maybe the buttons or general colors will be diff? something the 3d model and this 3d print couldnt consider

its hard to tell most nintendo sequel consoles apart tbh, especially with obnoxious titles like NEW 3ds and wii U

@Koffeeking0407 Ha the old Nintendo handhelds aren't even clamshell and those clamshell design handhelds weren't discontinued until March 2024, that was only several months ago ending the legacy with the New 2DS LL. Those things weren't that old yet.

And what if all the leaks are just 3D printed mock ups by people with zero knowledge of the real thing?

With people being so fatigued by the diminishing returns of fidelity, if this thing hits PS4 levels of performance, it's going to shake things up. I'm more excited to get home and play games on my Dadstation Portal than I am to see anything running on the PS5 Pro.
I've always preferred handhelds, and I hope that the design of this console is pretty conservative when it comes to changes from the Switch.

@jorel262 Then we get to laugh at them. Win win.

@Lightsiyd It`s not : my uncle who works for Nintendo confirmed it !

If all of these rumors are correct then I'm not even made. A bigger, better Switch would be incredible.

@premko1 You can't fool me. My grandfather's sister's 3rd neighbour's ancestor said you'd try to pull a fast one on me.

big 'ol grain of salt taken while watching most of that. I'll admit it looks convincing with her talking points on why, etc. If they keep the same strategy of having an base unit, plus/oled and then lite, ya this could end up being close. I'm hoping they just go with OLED and not have an LCD as the base. it'll cost more, but I want the OLED model first. I've held out upgrading to the OLED version, but every time I see the screen it just begs me come home. It would be a nice surprise for my wife. She actually plays her Switch more than I play mine. Very much looking forward to the full reveal.

All of that said, after seeing the price of the PS5 Pro, I'm very concerned about what price S2 comes in at. I feel a bit of an ouch coming. The financial analysis was pretty convincing why they delayed the launch due to financing costs, etc. The change in the yen vs the dollar this month tho? - oh boy.

The Switch is already just big enough to not entirely be comfortable imo. I miss the form factor of the 3DS, that was far more comfortable and you could maximise screen space far more conveniently these days.

Do people really want all their portable devices to grow in size? Ok..
Not really relevant for me cause I only play docked.

Take a look.
Why there is a square capture button on the Right Joycon for 8 inches Switch 2?
Looks fake to me.

Just wait for Nintendo to say something. Folks are so impatient.

I'm serious. If this is all Switch 2 is, I think Nintendo is in trouble in the upcoming gen. I might be wrong, but that's what I think about just a 1.5 version of the same machine that's already in the hands of the most likely customers.

If this is the final design it's Wii U all over again. It doesn't feel new enough. Some people won't realize it's a completely new system.

If anything it gives a good indication of the size if the 8" screen size is true, just to put it in perspective with Switch and Deck

@Earl_Grey It could be very confusing, they'd need to slap a great big number 2 on the box and all marketing at least. Dont go for anything fancy naming wise if this is an accurate representation of what we'll get

NL readers: Yeah, I knew it was fake all along.
deletes any comments where it seems like they fell for it

@NintendoWife All their portable devices? No. But the Switch - yes! Current Switch is already too big to fit in a pocket. Moving to an 8" screen would be more comfortable to use, and not make any difference to portability.

I don't believe this is the next console for one reason. A huge element of why the Wii U failed was because it looked so similar to the Wii, which itself had already fizzled out in popularity by 2012.

I don't believe they will do the same with the next console. They will want to make sure people know it's something completely new based on its design and features so that they can enjoy another eight years of success.

@chardir Ok, I see. I don't expect them to make it much larger though, because a significant part of their customers is children. With their tiny little hands and weak little arms.

Just don't buy it. Whilst I expect the Switch 2 to retain a high degree of the OGs concept, I'm expecting something that looks different and not something that just looks like a pro model. It's Nintendo so we should expect the element of surprise ...... Hopefully in a good way

I'm more interested in seeing the new dock at this point. Even fake ones. Roll on late January...

Oh just reveal the damn thing already Nintendo! I'm sick of hearing about all these dumb rumors that knowing Nintendo are probably way off.

That new magnetic 'click' Switch animation was a nice touch.

This is just like when someone 3D printed a mockup of what we believed the Switch's design to be before it was officially revealed. For those who remember, the NX (as the Switch was called back then) was believed to be shaped like an oval, with the entire front of the system being the screen, and two joysticks poking out from the front. This is based on a patent that Nintendo filed.

Ultimately, as we all know, the Switch looks wildly different than that mockup. It could very well stand to reason that the same would be the case here. We won't know, however, until Nintendo reveals the successor to the Switch (I won't call it Switch 2, because we simply don't know what Nintendo is going to call it).

I think the C shape on the square button is supposed to be a moon icon for sleep mode - put the console to sleep

@Serpenterror it may have been discontinued recently but they are still old design concepts from systems that Nintendo’s most recent example, which is very much so a clamshell design (Google it), released back in 2011 if we aren’t counting the 2DS XL which is still pretty much the same system based on the 2011 model. But hey, tomatoes tomotoes. That’s pretty old and this is coming from a dude in his 40’s…

I really hope Switch 2 will be more creative than this.

mark my words: if the "switch 2" looks this much like the first switch, it will be considered a failure and will tarnish the entire Switch endeavor, much the way Wii U ruined everything for them after building a world beating platform with Wii.

also wtf I'm 6'3" and that thing looks too big too be comfortable to me.

@-wc- @Yoshi3 Wii U had far more problems than just looking like a Wii. Barely an improvement on PS3/360 level hardware when the PS4/Xbox One were around the corner, weak third party support, a required tablet controller that wasn’t appealing to most people and added expense to the unit, terrible branding and marketing that confused even Nintendo fans, huge gaps between first party games…the list goes on.

The fact is most people don’t want huge gimmicks. It can work (DS and Wii) but it can also fail miserably when trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist (Wii U). Other companies like Sony and Apple have proven time and time again that “same but better” is enough and they avoid confusion through clear marketing and naming conventions. Nintendo have one of the best selling consoles of all time- a better version of it with appealing exclusives is all they need.

'Barely an improvement on PS3/360 level hardware when the PS4/Xbox One were around the corner,"

arguably this could be said of the Switch and likely its successor as well

"a required tablet controller that wasn’t appealing to most people and added expense to the unit,"

the Switch Joycons and screen ("tablet controller") certainly adds expense to the unit while being not entirely appealing to me lol (there are dozens of us!)

"The fact is most people don’t want huge gimmicks. It can work (DS and Wii) but it can also fail miserably when trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist (Wii U)"

i disagree with almost everything you said lol but especially this. playing portable "console games" on the couch and freeing up the tv makes the wii u one of the most ahead-of-its-time consoles ever made in my opinion. ✌️

Straight iteration was only cool for nintendo the first time, with SNES. if it werent for "blue ocean strategy" i dont believe we would have Wii, Wii U, Or Switch. The idea that Nintendo finally "did it" with Switch so they are done innovating and this is all we get now is so depressing to me I can hardly stand it.

If the next system is going to be a slightly bigger Switch then that is really boring to be frank and I'll be saving money by not upgrading.

A lot of you guys don't remember why the Wii U was a failure (it's not because it "looked physically similar" to the Wii lol).

@larryisaman Yeah I mean if consumers can tell and understand the difference between an iPhone 14 and 15, a Samsung Galaxy S21 to S22, PS4 to PS5, etc. they can understand the difference between a Switch and Switch 2. This was never a problem for the Game Boys and DS/3DS.

@-wc-

arguably this could be said of the Switch and likely its successor as well

But the Switch (and presumably the next console) is predominantly a handheld and occupies a different space in the market to the other consoles. It’s not a traditional home console while the Wii U very much was and being so underpowered compared to its competitors releasing just a year later was a blow for third party support and how people perceived the system.

Straight iteration was only cool for nintendo the first time, with SNES. if it werent for "blue ocean strategy" i dont believe we would have Wii, Wii U, Or Switch. The idea that Nintendo finally "did it" with Switch so they are done innovating and this is all we get now is so depressing to me I can hardly stand it.

3DS? GBA? Even their more iterative systems like N64 and GameCube failed in comparison to their contemporaries not just because they were iterative but because they failed to adopt new technology like CDs, DVDs, online play etc. at times where they were groundbreaking. Things could have been very different if they’d had the foresight at those times.

Regardless, oftentimes “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is all that needs to be said. If there’s a great idea and it has a chance of being huge then great, but they shouldn’t do something different just for the sake of it. That’s how we ended up with the Wii U. Besides, just because the hardware might fundamentally be the same thing doesn’t mean that they can’t innovate with software features.

@larryisaman we can argue all day, but at the end there’s only this: I know this is a fake and the next console will have something that will make it stand out from the regular Switch. If not, I’ll eat my hat. You can save this comment.

3DS wasn’t iterative …. It’s even in the name…. Some games were even designed to work around its main feature …3D, and it was something new that hasn’t been replicated again either.
N64 wasn’t iterative either, you had the advantage of polygonal 3D graphics and the joystick, which at the time were new things.
GameCube may have been iterative but you could immediately distinguish a Gamecube from a N64.
Same case with the GBA and the Gameboy.

This just being bigger isn’t appealing to anyone and looking at history is so un-Nintendo. So yeah, I’m calling it clearly a fake.

I honestly don't care if this is the exact opposite of the final design. She was really through yet engaging in her explanation so props to her

@larryisaman

EDIT - I reread your comment and I think I get what you mean. I dont totally agree but I decided to hack down my point for point. 😊👍

@Yoshi3 Fair point on N64. As for 3DS, the 3D feature ended up being so underutilized and unused by so many people that they removed it in the 2DS. It was cool but not essential- you could even turn it off on original models anyway which at that point really turned it into a souped up DS.

Said it before though- just looking like an older machine doesn’t matter. Do Apple struggle to sell new phones that look identical to the ones that came before them?

@larryisaman comparing Apple to Nintendo is the worst comparison you could ever make. So it’s really not a good argument.
(There’s only so much you can change on a yearly hardware revision… but if Apple only released new phones every 7-8 years then everybody would obviously expect something totally new)
And the one for 3DS it’s a matter of who you ask. In The 2DS it was removed because they wanted a cheaper model for people that couldn’t withstand the 3D because of headaches (or for little kids, you can clearly see it was marketed towards kids)…. If your argument had validity then later we wouldn’t have had the New 3DS which improved the 3D eye position recognition feature.

But in no way was the 3DS just a souped up DS. You had a similar clamshell design, yes, but it also brought a flat joystick to the table (something the DS never had)… it brought stereoscopic 3D gameplay, bigger screens, better graphics etc.

This “rumored” Switch doesn’t bring anything new to the table in the slightest. And from a 40 year experience playing Nintendo consoles, that is a serious sign that it’s a fake.

The only iterative console one could argue would be the SNES… but even at the time, having shoulder buttons, the added X & Y buttons, and a totally different console design, made it stand out and gave you new ways to play. It’s just that we are so accustomed to that, that we now see it as iterative, but if you lived in that era you would think otherwise.

Hell even the GBA was totally recognizable as the next Gameboy because of its horizontal design and later the clamshell design with the SP.

I really hope it’s nothing like that size! Switch lite for me is probably the biggest I would want to go or else it’s no longer a handheld and you may as well be playing on your TV.

@Yoshi3 100% agree. This would be dumb.

@Yoshi3 Agreed.

If this is real, then I'd say it's really not a good sign for Nintendo's next 5 or so years at all.

It's way, way too safe, too similar, and Nintendo likes to innovate too much – and give us new hardware inventiveness every generation. This kind of device is no longer unique, in fact it's become as common as muck - and would have little distinguishing it over tons of portable PCs that now exist and keep coming every month.

Sure it'd still have the joy-con thing – but many of us kinda hated the ergonomic of those things and use third party alternatives – so I'd expect them to be a least be more hand-ergonomic this time.

If this is it, no one will be interested after a few year max – because in essence they've had the same thing for 8 years already. This is a safe and boring 'bigger version'. I don't believe it – OR there will be an additional unique aspect to it that is as yet un-leaked.

A 'Pro' version isn't interesting enough as - proved multiple times by Sony.

Nintendo don't just do, basically, the same thing after 8 years. That's what other tech companies do. **Nintendo, first and foremost** have been very public that they are not much interested in tech for tech sake – they always say they want to give use new ways to play in interviews.

Sure, I want a more powerful, backwards compatible Switch so I can bring forwards over 200+ digital games. I personally don't want it bigger or heavier at all – but whatever – sign o' the times that people want that. But It'll be more than just this, or I'll eat my hat as well. I don't buy this as the full story of the hardware. It's at least in part false.

@brunojenso couldn't have said it better.

Way too big. Vita size would be perfect

@Ulysses exactly! It was nice being able to close it up with that satisfying click and just throw it in a bag without having to worry about scratching or breaking a screen.

@Yoshi3 I agree with you. Each time I see one of these leaked pictures even I have to look closely to see the difference. Iterative fine, but this is - if they see a difference - just a bigger switch. It will need something more than changes under the hood to convince people to buy a new one.

@premko1 it is.

@Doomcrow They'll launch a cute version after a year.

@brunojenso Nothing wrong with playing it safe. Nintendo didn't really 'innovate' or more accurately shift their focus to gimmicks until the DS and Wii, before then they made traditional hardware - this is Nintendo returning to their core business.

The big issue is, how are Nintendo going to get the 130 million casual fans to upgrade? Only hardcore Nintendo fans bought Wii U - so we learnt from it that Nintendo's longterm fanbase had severely diminished to 13 million due to their lack of focus and refusal to get with the times.

Sony are facing the same issue with PS5, they've shipped 60-70 million consoles and have only sold 30 million to real customers. Why? Because their casual fans see no need to upgrade when the games they want to play online like fortnite play perfectly fine on PS4.

@Doomcrow Still play my Vita. It's damn-near mint. I just love that system to bits. Such a weird library. I don't think I could ever just go with a Vita an no other systems, even when it was current. Maybe if I jail broke it or something.

After the Switch Lite being based on DS naming, I'm convinced the new Switch will be called the Switch XL.

@JohnnyMind
Man, reading all these comments it can get a bit frustrating. But I also don't have the energy to correct everyone. Oh well...

The Switch Advance then?

Looks boring in the sense it's the same 7 year old system with a bigger casing and screen. I suppose it's genuinely playable software that matters, buh still....

It's a really interesting video although this must be the fastest language in the world. It's telling how influenced by other gaming handhelds this model is and I mean the massive difference in power between the already dated in 2017 tablet and this. I can't help wondering if Switch would stay for eight more years on the market if it wasn't for them. Kidding, kind of. I also consider a bit too late to try to emulate the Wii Remote properly and that's something that Switch should have done. Is Wii Sport scheduled for 2025, for a fourth time? Call me crazy but I'd still play the Wii version on Wii (U) with a Wii Remote if I feel like playing. I'm not sure how to feel about this. I haven't enjoyed Switch as much as the previous Nintendo consoles, including 3DS and Wii U, but mostly because of the software compared to their past catalogue, so I guess that it has become the most important part to improve when it comes to modern Nintendo, even more considering they used to have separate home and handheld development teams.

@Astronautwithanitch Switch XL or Switch XXXXXXL? 😜

If this is the real design and we’re getting more joy-con drift, I’m going to ignore this console’s existence entirely.

I just want a Switch successor with backwards compatibility, more storage space so I don't have to constantly archive my games, a better e-Shop with a filter system so I can filter out the shovelware & NO Joy-Con drift most of all.

@liveswired You make some strong points about the user-base situation. And I agree playing it safe works in some situations, but doesn't pay-off in many.

We'll see – maybe it will just be a spec-bump and still be successful, but I'm sceptical about both parts of that.

Regarding **'Nintendo didn't really 'innovate' ... before then they made traditional hardware'** I'm not sure I can fully agree with that – maybe in part. Most were incredibly innovative:

NES was the first console to use a D-pad, as well as mainstreaming in-game save progress, popularised interchangeable carts, and lightguns.

SNES introduced Mode 7, and the Super FX – Mario Kart, F-zero and later Star-Fox blew our minds! Effects like parallax 'mist' in LttPs lostwoods and its scaling Mode 7 map where mind-boggling. It was a huge leap in graphics and sound capabilities for the time, and the controller was a good step forward.

The N64 taught the world how 3D Platformers & Action RPG could work and control. Before that, we had no idea how it could be done! - it was seemingly miraculous they figured it out. Yes, 3D platformers came before the N64, but with an analog stick in a mainstream home console, it's hard to describe its impact unless you'd gone from the SNES to the N64 yourself. To me the N64 was the biggest leap in a generation for 'actual gameplay experience', that gaming will ever see – I'm not exaggerating at all. Even VR doesn't change things as much.

And all people tend to say about the N64 now is that the stick wasn't that great. It breaks my heart! That controller was, again, at the time, a total dream to use. I get giddy thinking of playing Pilotwings or later releases like Rogue Squadron on that controller. And Star Fox 64 introduced the world to rumble.

I owned a PSX a year before the N64 (Japan import) – it had GREAT 3D titles like Ridge Racer, Wipeout and Tekken early on – but non controlled in 3D in the mind-blowing new way Mario 64 and Pilotwings 64 did – later, OoT. PS didn't introduce analogs & rumble until a year later, and didn't really use the sticks effectively for a while. The N64 was genuinely revolutionary - people forget! I even owned an Atari Jaguar and it had nothing on the N64 (except Tempest 2000!)

Gameboy, and the Gameboy Advance where also huge leaps to what was around then. Sure the Game Gear was incredible one year after the GB. But whereas I took my GB everywhere and played it tons, the GG was too expensive to buy batteries for, was un-pocketable, and had a much smaller library. The GB was simpler, but it was the first practically-viable handheld with interchangeable games. Before that we just had G&W – great, but limited in ways the GB was not.

I'd say the only Nintendo system pre-DS that wasn't **particularly** innovative was the Gamecube, despite how fondly we like that console and it's beautiful games.

But generally, yeah Nintendo are always innovating, and I'll be surprised when that stops and we just get spec bumps per-generation.

But times change, and maybe their passion for innovation will wane.

@brunojenso Very nice comment I can relate to. Those were the days when I was in love with Nintendo: SNES, N64 and you are right, Gamecube wasn't that innovative, but it has some games that impressed me deeply. It was a perfect combination of top-notch hardware and controller (SNES, N64, Gamecube) and software what made Nintendo so special and that's their golden age. Wii is fun and has better controllers than Switch, but then Nintendo started to get greedier and commercial. The masterminds were not as involved in software development, new staff started making games, e.g., the awful New Super Mario Bros. 2 and Nintendo outsourced most of their projects. That's probably why I prefer 3DS and Wii U over Switch, because they are more connected to that glorious past. When I got the SNES Mini, I couldn't believe how comfortable that controller still is for 2D games, after all these years.

@Banjo- Thanks, and yeah unfortunately they definitely come across as greedier and more commercial these days. Subscriptions for games we've already paid for 3 times before, and they think giving screensavers and digital avatars is a generous rewards program! To be honest they come across as the least 'giving' company in gaming, and they kinda always were misers, despite the good point about the company.

I’m sure the new Switch 2 will be a sight and delight to hold and behold. Just have to be patient for a bit longer, I’d reckon.

Seems more like a tablet. if it is like this (specifically the size) it'd be a Nintablet.

I don't really get why so many commentators are convinced that leak was real. The photo of the actual hardware looked kinda scuffed, it's easily possible they are just mock ups, wouldn't take a genius.

Played through both of these on the Sega CD back in the day. Great games! Now, let’s get a re-release of Vay as well!

@brunojenso I mean't hardware, console in a box, I wasn't extending to their games, there's no doubting those mentioned.
What I meant was Nintendo used to go for straight up generational improvements in terms of graphics performance until Wii/DS arrived. NES, SNES, N64, GCN where all cutting edge, powerful pieces of kit on release, then out if necessity, Nintendo had to focus on gimmicks. The NES, SNES, N64 and GCN all had functional controller innovations but they weren't the selling point of the hardware, they were quality of life enhancements, they were in service of the hardware. The DS ushered in the gimmick focus approach - touch screen, Wii - Wiimotes, 3DS - glasses free 3D, Wii U - Gamepad, Switch - hybrid handheld.

So my point is, that a straight up Switch 2, with a logical tech upgrade including QoL improvements in terms of controller input/comfort is arguably a return to Nintendo's more clear cut generational leaps from yesteryear...

@liveswired yeah I can get most of that. I think I was also referring to hardware a lot as well - especially controller evolution, but I do get what your saying.

The leak does seem to be more likely with each passing day, but I still believe there will be a unknown aspect to the hardware to be revealed – that will be a gimmick of some sorts and gives people a reason to go Nintendo over other systems.

But then again, I'll admit, I'm guessing just like most of us. Anyway, all will be reveal in the next couple or two probably, with the thing available to buy in March or April as another guess.