Pizza Tower Finally Dashes Onto Switch Today

Bout time.

Pizza Time.

LAUGH.

I really wanted the last reveal to be silksong..(dumb wish tbh)..buuutt I really really wanted to finally get to play pizza tower.

The developer of this game is a staunch racist, so no thanks.

@LadyCharlie wait, what

I've heard nothing but good things about the game (though what is that about the developer, heard nothing about this) but I kind of just can't look past the art style. Like I just genuinely think this game is unpleasant to look at.

Can´t wait to play this all night!

Yes! So glad to see developers embrace Wario Land's classic gameplay.

@LadyCharlie yeesh, that sucks. I bought the game last year on Steam and while I enjoyed it regardless, this does leave a bad aftertaste. I'll just stick with Antonblast.

Might get this one, it looks cool.

Pizza tower is a "Nintendo" level kind of game. It is complete, well done, and really fun.

Ugh, that is not the art style I ever want in anything. It should stay in the nineties.

@LadyCharlie Am i missing something here? One random twitter post proves one as a racist? That hardly seems fair.

@NintendoLife Any idea when we expect a review or performace review for Pizza Tower? - no wrong answer, just curious if you can say

So damn happy! Insta-purchase for me.

@LadyCharlie Good lord no he is not, and that “stereotype” is such a stretch.

About time the console release gets here.

Kind of biased because I'm in the credits, but it's a great game!

@N00BiSH They aren't racist, it's just Twitter being Twitter. Can't say 100% on the Indian thing, but the so called "Jewish" stereotype is more based on Mr Burns and Scourge. Poor taste, I can coincide to that, but racist? No.

Pretty tempted to double dip on this, but I found this game frustratingly difficult the first time around, let's see if the price is right!

@LadyCharlie did you even click the link? The perceived evidence isn’t there anymore. So it’s just one internet user’s opinion.

I was JOKING, Nintendo!

@Bigmanfan It’s really not fair, and didn’t he say sorry and that he looks back on it as distasteful?

@Snatcher Silksong is gonna be saved for the Switch Successor! Because the Switch cannot handle that power!

The Bosses of this game are Perfect, Powerful, Famous, Horrifying and Lovable! And what is our hero, some greasy, deranged Italian? Do I dare double-dip to play this at the laundromat on Saturdays?

"Yes.. I AM... PEPPINO!! ***** YOU! AH-HAHAHAHA!!!"

Sorry, had to reference the "Unexpectancy with Lyrics" video.

Yeah I'm not looking at a single Twitter post with a accusation that contains a dead link as a deciding factor for whether I buy this game or not. There's gotta be more than that. I've beaten the game on steam and it's pretty dang good. No offensive caricatures to be seen iirc. I'm not going to scour Twitter/the internet for dirt on devs before I play a game, because if I did that, there would be no games left to play

@treechenho The "racist" remark is meant to be a joke guide.

Dude nice! I have played a bit on my PC but fell off because of the inconvenience of gaming on that thing. It'll be nice to have it on a dedicated device I can bring with me.

@Snatcher I really don't know if he apologized, but I also just don't think there was anything to apologize for. This game was huge and I never heard of any of this before. Seems like Twitter being Twitter.

I AM DEFINITELY EXCITED TO PLAY THIS GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME!

@treechenho when digging into this whole thing I found this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pizza-tower-the-noise-update-new-game-released.826719/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AAF_-4dg9PrEWh5fphZX7Wo3515ZqtGJp10DD5rXMj8/edit

It has some excerpts from the Pizza Tower Discord, which seems to be where most of the controversy stems from.

@Bigmanfan Same, like I only heard about because of this comment section and did light like really light research and that’s what I found.

Either way I don’t think it’s cool just to throw out the word racist at somebody even if what he said isn’t the most tasteful.

Sweet, I was waiting for this to come to console! This game has one of my favourite art styles of any game ever, it's seriously just right up my alley. Seriously can't wait to play this!

This is like Death's Door and Tunic, I just knew it'd come out on Switch! Excited to play!

Physical by Fangamer confirmed for next year.

Peppino is the true Wario Land 9

As someone who loves pizza and loved wario land 4 this is right up my alley.

Love pizza and love the art style. Might pick this up.

Owned the game on PC back in 2023, now going to play it again on Switch

@KimBread How is this like Deaths Door or Tunic? o.o

I just don't get the appeal of this.

Artstyle itself is obviously gonna be a preference thing, and I do kinda like the early 2000s cartoon vibes (the characters remind me of stuff like Oggy) but seeing the game in motion...Oof. The readability is actually awful with how messy the backdrops are and if this is just another "platform er like X but you constantly run" for Wario Land 4 /Shake Dimension (and let's be real, the others are nothing like those two) it's going to stay a hard pass for me.

Part of me still feels like the "hype" around Pizza Tower is all just memes tbh

@Bigmanfan a "staunch" racist no less. 😂

I thought the game looked great. I'll likely pick it up at some point.

Step 1: Deny, attack the source.
Step 2: When confronted with evidence, equivocate. "Well that's not technically racist."
Step 3: "Keep politics out of games."

@yohn777 I think they just mean popular Indy/steam games they wanted on the switch. This one included now.

@yohn777 I believe he was saying that he was sure this would come to Switch eventually, and he felt similarly about death's door and tunic.

@N00BiSH Thank you for posting that. Absolutely no one can read through some of these posts and come out of it honestly thinking that the guy isn't a racist, sexist, ableist POS.

I won't be supporting his game now.

@LadyCharlie Thank you for starting the conversation and raising awareness about that horrible guy. Just like I don't have time for bad games, I don't have respect and support for bad people.

EDIT: clearly I was wrong. There are some Olympic-level mental gymnasts in here putting on the leotard to make themselves feel better about supporting a bigot.

@burninmylight I read the comments, all of them - definitely some pretty lame, infantile attempts at online humour, but to label him a "racist POS" forever is pretty unfair, in my opinion. You literally don't know the guy at all.

I can’t, I just can’t.

It’s got to the point in the switch’s life cycle where my back log (and my wallet) just cannot take the sadistic abuse anymore.

This game just looks, there are no words, I must resist. My back log has become so gargantuan, it’s become sentient, it talks to me and pleads no more.

This whole direct was pretty rude tbh

@AG_Awesome @luke88 Oh I see lol, my bad. That's pretty apparent now that I reread the comment, I was thinking they meant the gameplay

@yohn777 Coincidentally the first time I read it I was confused for a second too! 😂🤣

@N00BiSH this is a lot better of controversy context then that one dead Twitter link. People are free to read that and do what they will in terms of how they feel about supporting the game. Seeing those discord messages does nothing to change my personal opinion about it though. As a matter of fact (and lambast me all y'all may cause idc) the messages remind me of stuff I say to my friends honestly. I've seen this level of speaking before because I do it, and you can tell there's mega sarcasm in most of those messages, so I'm still not convinced dude's a bigot or anything. Like I said: personal opinion.

@luke88 Read all of the comments from what source? Also, the amounts of gymnastics you're doing to cover up for a bigot is astounding.

You focused on me calling him a "racist POS" while leaving out all of the misogyny, ableism and other offensive remarks slattered all over his posts, to say nothing of the community he attracts and enables. And WTF are you talking about "forever"? Do you know him personally? Sounds to me like you're doing an awfully lot of projecting.

To quote @Purgatorium in #46:
Step 1: Deny, attack the source.
Step 2: When confronted with evidence, equivocate. "Well that's not technically racist."
Step 3: "Keep politics out of games."

If someone keeps making similarly themed jokes about a concept or subject, it probably says something about where that person's head is at. You all want to pretend like it's just fun and games when the humor doesn't do any harm to you personally. "It's just comedy man, geez, people can't joke about anything anymore"

I read the discord analysis posted by another user. I believe you replied to him also.

It was my intention to dismiss the claims of misogyny and ableism but, for the sake of brevity, I shortened the quote. I think they're all equally baseless.

As for "the community he attracts," is it fair to hold him accountable for things other people have said? I don't think it is.

I don't know him personally, I just don't think it's fair to make the claims you're making based on a few random discord posts from 2018. They're asinine, certainly, but all fairly tepid and the developer himself has said he regrets them.

The game seems fun. I just plan on enjoying it.

*Edited to remove an unnecessary jibe about word choice, sorry.

Looks cool. As for the drama, I go by "Separate the art from the artist".

@LadyCharlie @N00BiSH

Thank you both for bringing this to my attention and explaining the situation! I had planned on buying Pizza Tower as soon as it hit Switch, but I had no idea about any of this, and I can't in good conscience support the game or its developers. And that sucks. :/

@yohn777 The situation is the same. I didn't buy any of those three games on Steam because I knew they'd eventually be on Switch.

@luke88 If it was your intention to dismiss the claims of misogyny and ableism, then you failed. Hard. All you said in your post to me is " to label him a "racist POS" forever is pretty unfair" in your opinion, conveniently ignoring all of derogatory posts toward "woman" (sic) and liberal use of the R-word. It very much read like, "Yeah, he may be a chauvinist pig who thinks women aren't equal and doesn't respect the developmentally disabled, but he's definitely not racist because he said he's sorry!"

Yes, it is fair to hold him accountable for what others have said. He's a mod in his Discord channel. Want to know who holds people accountable for what they say? Mods on every other social site, like this one we're on right now. The fact that he is perfectly tolerable and even indulgent in the messed up things others post says just as much about him.

If you plan on enjoying the game, then just enjoy it without trying to play defense for the bigot. If you have the ability to play it without this context behind it in mind, good for you. It's pretty clear from your posts that denying facts looking you in the eye comes pretty natural. But my life experiences and advocacy for others won't allow me to do the same.

@treechenho

I think a lot of people aren't aware of the casual bigotry in every day conversation. They don't believe themselves to be racists and wouldn't outwardly be racist but unknowingly engage in racism. Are you racist for saying things like that? Not necessarily. But are those things racist? Absolutely. Should you know this already? Yeah, probably.

Those comments, plus a few other red flags here make it clear to me. Awful people like this aren't always going to go to rallies and out themselves easily. A major MO of theirs is plausible deniability, which a lot of people are willing to grant them, unfortunately. You gotta make an informed opinion.

@burninmylight I don't think that creators should be fully exempt from consequences for actions or words from their personal life, but I think everybody's level of what they will or won't tolerate varies.

I don't like what McPig said in those Discord screenshots and would certainly call a friend out if they said something like that to me, but these are 6-year old comments from a dude in his 20s, in a forum where there was probably an expectation to be "funny" and provocative. Personally, I grew up quite a bit over that course of my life and I'd like to extend the same benefit of the doubt to others. I don't really see how I'm making the world a worse place by buying this game - there's no evidence that my money's going to get funneled into regressive social causes or anything like that. Inversely, I don't really see how I'm advancing the cause of social justice or equity by declining to play this game.

Trust me, there are a lot of games I don't play for reasons that are convoluted and probably only make sense to me. I'm never going to judge somebody for not wanting to play a game for personal reasons unrelated to the game. But some of this rhetoric is overheated and (IMO) doesn't really fit the crime here.

@N00BiSH idk it just feels ***** to dog on someone for something they did or say... 6~ years ago now? This "drama" is old. mcpig commented on it basically saying he's grown past that. This should be over with, but as seen here and in that ResetEra thread, people just... can't let go of him being cringey weirdo in the past, especially in a time where many fell into that edgy-pipeline.

I mean if this was something done and said like, recently, like the whole Scott Cawthon donations when that was discovered, I feel it'd mean something more a lot more. But like I said these were old messages dug from the grave for the sake of a "gotcha".

This same thing happened with the Ninjamuffin when FNF got big too. I'm not sure what's really being accomplished by digging up old info about these people that clearly aren't indicative of who they are today.

@N00BiSH as much disgust it would be I'm curious as to what he has said 😨😨

@Ade117 from what I've played so far during the tutorial I didn't have much patience or fun? any day of the week I will play the OG wario land games but this? It just strips the essence which makes a wario game and turns it into to mind numbing button pressing, no thought to it at all imo, just not for me I guess

@Greatluigi naaaah, not even close 🤣🤣🤣

@jefferson7 I appreciate your level-headed post, but with all due respect, you sound like the type of person who labels everyone who thinks like me a strawman SJW that is ready to rally a mob to burn it all down over every offense on the Internet. All I said was that I won't be getting the game.

People in their 20s are still adults. That's old enough to drink, vote, go to war, run for several public offices, develop video games, own a house, go to college and go out into the world acquire all sorts of life experiences. Please don't act like 20-somethings are still fledglings that don't know any better because they're still clutching their parent's legs for protection from a harsh world. I've grown a ton in that span as well, but I was still an adult that was expected to have some level of maturity, compassion, and at the very least, tolerance for people from other walks of life.

I said absolutely nothing about "advancing the cause of social justice or equity by declining to play this game." I'm not so full of myself as to believe that doing so would mean anything to anyone other than myself. I said I won't be supporting the game. Show me the part where I said that no else should either.

It makes me wonder if some of you feel the need to step up and defend this guy because you either see a bit of yourself in him, or you're feeling a little guilt knowing you're looking the other way while patronizing a reprehensible clod.

@literally_someone That's a fair assessment that I agree with, to an extent. From my understanding the issue in this case stems from the lack of proper acknowledgement from McPig other than "yeah all of that stunk and I regret saying it" and that's just not going to be enough for people.

@burninmylight I guess we just have different sensibilities, no hard feelings on my end. Though I can't help but feel that the world might be a better place if you and others like you were a little more charitable, and a little more understanding.

@luke88 I feel like the world would be a better place if people like you didn't run cover for people like him and enable that mindset.

@burninmylight I hear you, I just haven't seen enough evidence to label the fella all the ...-ists under the sun. If I knew that he was any of them, I wouldn't defend him. I'm just inclined to give someone the benefit of the doubt when we're talking about some dumb posts online from 2018, particularly when the poster has expressed regret.

@burninmylight To be clear, I'm really only commenting on this specific instance. There are plenty of situations where a creator has done something more egregious or with a more obvious level of scienter that would make me want to stay away from a game. I've always liked Jeremy Soule's compositions, but I would stay away from any future game he's involved in. Any sort of knee-jerk dismissal of all criticism of a creator as "SJW behavior" is reductive and lame.

I understand that as a society, we've set a legal and cultural standard that if you're 18, you're an adult, but there are a lot of people in their 20s who do unimaginably stupid things before they mature into well-adjusted people. The human brain doesn't stop developing until we hit our mid-to-late 20s. A lot of us spend our pre-adult years in pretty sheltered circumstances that don't really allow us to cultivate a sense of understanding and empathy for others. I've lived through my 20s and I can vouch that, at least for me, there's a big difference between 21 and 29.

As for your suggestion that I'm defending this guy because I "see a bit of myself in him"...I mean, yeah? Thankfully I'm old enough that there isn't a hard copy of every stupid thing I said when I was hanging out with my friends in college, but I know I probably said some edgelord stuff that I'm not aligned with anymore. I'd like to think that it mostly came from a place of ignorance and I've matured past that, and I generally try to give others the benefit of the doubt that they're capable of doing the same.

About time! PIZZA time! Insta-buy babyyyyy

I already had it on Steam, and of course it would come to Switch, but oh well, gonna get it here too!

Hell yeah I love pizza

@jefferson7 @luke88 You both have reached for such defenses as to say that I don't know the guy personally and a person in his 20s hasn't had enough life experience to be be held accountable for his toxic behavior. Do you know a thing about me personally? Do you know, or at least care, what life experiences have led me to where I am and how I think and feel today?

It's really easy to dismiss bigoted and hurtful comments and communities as "just a phase" when you're not in one of the groups being targeted. So yeah, when you see a bit of yourself in him, that's obvious: you want to protect your analog because posts like mine as an affront on you by proxy. So you can spout your rhetoric about empathy and understanding, but I've yet to see either of you express any amount of that for the minorities that were targeted in those posts and forums. Instead, you put on your helmets to protect the quarterback and say things like, "Well he can't control what others say" on his own Discord channel of which he is a mod, and "The brain isn't fully formed until the mid-to-late 20s" as if 20-somethings all over the world aren't out there doing big things to make the world a better place now. Why waste an ounce of effort trying to empathize with others from a different walk of life when you can put all of your energy into maintaining the status quo that personally benefits you?

Remember that metroidvania that launched earlier in the year, Tales of Kenzera: Zau, and the harassment the director received after it launched? The game was literally about the director's personal relationship and admiration for his father. Were you guys putting on the cape for him when he was getting harassed?

@burninmylight I mean, neither one of us knows each other. I'm sure your life experience informs why its easier for you to feel empathy for some groups of people and not others. I definitely know that's the case with me. Like I said in my initial post, there's plenty of situations where I've been apprehensive to play a game or support a studio because of something that was said that hits close to home. However, I do think there's a meaningful distinction between "I'm not sure I want to support this guy" and publicly posting "it's obvious that this guy is a racist, sexist, ableist POS" based on a series of 6-year-old screengrabs that the guy has tried to distance himself from. One is an understandable personal stance, the other is a broad indictment on a person's character. I don't think you're a bad person or morally wrong for not wanting to buy Pizza Tower; I'm just uncomfortable with calling out a person I know very little about based on screengrabs curated by someone who had to go a ways back to find anything.

Regarding Tales of Kenzera - I don't remember hearing about that instance specifically (I had to look up that game to remember what it was, specifically), but sure, if you want me to hand over the keys to my other social media profiles, I could provide you with examples of me calling out harassment and other bad behavior. I literally created this account yesterday to comment on this thread specifically because it seemed like otherwise-reasonable people were being extremely quick to judge and I wanted there to be a counterpoint in the comments that went beyond "lol get rekt sjw." I generally don't feel the urge to comment on bad-faith trolls and hateful idiots in comment sections because I don't see the point. They get off on the attention, and anybody who can't see that their rhetoric is empty and hateful isn't going to be persuaded by anything I have to say.

I'm not sure what status quo that personally benefits me that you're referring to. I'm not trying to prop up the patriarchy or promote white supremacy, and I really feel like you're reading these comments like I'm coming from somewhere that I'm not.

@burninmylight Keep the sanctimonious pearl clutching to yourself dude. Nobody gives near as much a damn as you do and it’s NOT your place to finger wag.

@Dalesdeadbug if you don't give a damn, why are you leaving posts for me? More than a full day after anything was last said at that. You and the others sure are putting a lot of effort into one little post where I said I won't getting the game. At least @jefferson7 has something with substance to offer. You're welcome to do the same.

@burninmylight

As a person who personally helped fund the game though development (Again, in the credits) and though reading the links @N00BiSH has linked... I have no regrets from funding the game, double dipping on both Steam and Switch, and buying merch of the game. (Love the Fangamer Pizza Tower Cup)

My take on the situation is this, McPig/Pizza Tower Guy has an chudish online persona. Does this make him an chud IRL? I'm going to er on the side of no. I'm not excusing him of his behavior, but I will give him credit that when confronted with his past behavior, he took the L & tried to apologize. Was it enough? Eh, the mob will never accept one but what he said was better than saying nothing or doubling down.

As for stereotypes... That's basically IS the whole set design for the game. Why are people mad about the whole Native American Cheese-slimes but don't care about the literal Pig Cops or Mr Stick, the landlord that takes your money. Now if he put in something like blackface or a buck toothed Asian, that I would call them out on. I believe stereotypes, if done right, are an effective form of comedy. I believe the Pizza Tower Team have done a banger job at this, though they should retire any Native American stereotypes for their next project.

I'm not going to force you to buy and play the game @burninmylight, nor I will be the Sam-I-Am to bother you about trying this Green Eggs and Ham. Yet I wish you could just say "No sir, I do not like it" and move on with life.

@NatiaAdamo Good for you. Seeing as how you are popping up nearly a week after this discussion as ended to try to inject some life into this corpse of a topic, mind reminding where I said that you or anyone else shouldn't fund the game? Or the part where I said everyone should think and feel the same as me?

As for stereotypes... seeing as how I haven't played the game and don't intend to, I have no reference for what you're talking about.

Thank you for not forcing me to buy and play the game, @NatiaAdamo. I can finally breath easy again. As a gesture of my appreciation, I won't force you to avoid buying or playing the game and you can live your life however you want. You can continue to show up to comment sections a week late, yet still show that reading comprehension is a personal struggle, because if you bothered to read my first post, I pretty much said, "No sir, I do not like it."

You and your ilk are the ones who can't seem to move on. Not only are you still @ing me days after this thing has long run its course, but you're circle-jerking the same old tired points about how you admit he was acted like a chud but you don't think he's a chud in your own headcanon. Meanwhile, I'm just thinking of how much money I could save if I could live rent free in real life like I live rent free in your heads.