Random: "No Differences, No Fun!" - Sakurai Talks Unique Fighters In Smash Ultimate's DLC

I can almost feel the incoming rage about Fire Emblem characters/sword users.

I mean, this guy made Ganondorf a stronger Captain Falcon in Melee.

It would have been so funny in the video if, instead of only Marios, the character select screen near the end only had Foxes.
And at least he specified that he was talking about the DLC roster, since it would feel weird otherwise considering how some of the echo fighters (like Daisy and Dark Samus) play exactly like their counterparts for no good reason.

@Uncle_Franklin To be fair, Melee was made in 13 months, which is why there are so many clones. Its incredible that the game works at all, nevermind the competitive beast it ended up becoming!

Meanwhile the sword fighters function practically the same... Down to the same counters....

I wish they had that thought process with the stages as well, Ultimate had barely any new stages to begin with and the ones that came with the DLC were largely bland.

Personally, I felt like a lot of newcomers since Smash Wii U / 3DS have become a bit too gimmicky for my taste. It makes the game less accessible when fighters aren't easy to pick up right away. Not saying they need to dumb it down for babies, or that every character should be a clone. But I don't think every DLC fighter needs to have their own unique special meter like Cloud and Joker. I find it a bit overwhelming.

IF Sakurai is involved with the next Smash game, this makes me hopeful, because I make up better movesets on my own time, and it would be good to see more unique movesets.

I thought he was suppossed to have stopped YouTube by now.

I also can't help but feel that "only Mario" roster is a jab at Fortnite.

I wish he applied this logic to some of the echo fighters like Daisy

@Woderwick To be fair, almost all fire emblem characters play very differently from each other.

The online frustration is mainly based on too many characters from one Nintendo franchise while other franchises could use more representation.

I always love when Sakurai showcases Pyra & Mythra. He really seems to have an affinity for those two.

@Not_Soos This is true for Smash for 3DS/Wii U DLC newcomers.
Ryu had his command moves (and later the cancels seen in fighting games and the "always face the opponent in 1-on-1"), Cloud had the Limit Break and Bayonetta the Umbra Time. Only Corrin felt it didn't have anything special the same way the others unless you count "damaging while charging the Forward Smash" or pinning the walls to climb.

I get what you mean but I'm not sure about the base game newcomers, for me only Shulk and Palutena don't feel easy to pick up right away, maybe Greninja and Mega Man as well. May be just a coincidence, but with Mega Man, I feel like I improved a bit with him ever since I played his original series.
The rest I didn't feel major difficulties to use them.

I may be biased because I main him, but I'd say Pac-Man is the most accessible newcomer of Smash for, as in, he controls and plays kind of like the veterans you're used to.

@Not_Soos considering how many people I saw playing Steve after he dropped (knowing his moveset is possibly the most complex in the series), I don't think that's a problem.

@HammerGalladeBro I actually think Min Min is the simplest newcomer recently.

I might also be biased because she is the fighter I am at my best with.

Its why I love the non-humanoid characters like Pirahna plant or humanoid characters with cartoony/exaggerated proportions. Its great to see what moves they come out with.

The semi realistic/anime type humanoid fighters that tend to come from the RPG/Fighting games have their place too of course but the DLC's leaned a bit too much in their favour for me personally.

Fighting against Steve isn't fun. The argument stands for everyone else though.

If only he applied this to game modes...

The fact every other comment here is championing a different fighter would seem to suggest Sakurai is on the money with his musings this time. Go my adorable tag teaming Ice Climbers, go!

I know he’s talking about DLC mainly, but it does get me thinking that the echo fighters with no differences really would have been better off as skins. I think Pichu, Doc, Falco, Wolf, Lucas, and Isabelle are perfect examples of what should constitute an echo fighter, even though none of them are designated as such. Ganon’s technically a good example too, even though he deserves a more fitting moveset.

I want for ganondorf, to actually have his moves from diffent Zelda games.
I hope in the next smash they give him the looks of Tears of the kingdom. Best ganondorf ever.

Then how does Sakurai explain Daisy? While they have minute differences, the same can also be said for Dark Samus and Richter.

@KidSparta Some of the actual Echo Fighters like Lucina, Chrom, and Dark Pit are also different enough to work just fine. It's the ones I mentioned above that are the real problems.