The drift issues associated with Nintendo's Joy-Con controllers are still obviously a problem for many Switch users, so does the company have any hardware redesigns planned to combat this? In a recent interview with Polygon, Nintendo of America president Doug Bowser was asked this exact question.
In response, Doug explained how Nintendo was "always" closely inspecting what was being sent in and for what reasons in order to get a better understanding of what's going on with its hardware - so it can then make the necessary improvements going forward. Below is his full reply:
Polygon: I wanted to talk a little bit about — I know it’s kind of a four-letter word — but Joy-Con drift. Obviously, Nintendo has a long reputation of really strong hardware, but this is something that has not gone away. I know you offer free repairs for people; they can mail in their Joy-Cons. It kind of feels like this continues to be, like, a Band-Aid that’s being put over it. And I wanted to know, long term, are there hardware designs planned to address this so that when people buy a new Switch, they’re not necessarily worrying, “Hey, I’m going to need to send in my Joy-Con every six months or so”?
Doug Bowser: First and foremost, we want every consumer to have a great experience with their Nintendo Switch and with the games they play on Nintendo Switch. That’s of utmost importance to us. Our mission is to put smiles on faces. And we want to make sure that happens. If consumers have any issue with our hardware and/or software, we want them to contact us, when we will work through the proper solution to get them up and running as fast as possible.
Specific to the Joy-Cons themselves, we’ve been working very closely with consumers if and when they might have issues, whether it’s a replacement or repair. And then, what I will say, as we look at our repair cycles, we’re always looking at what is being sent in and for what reasons, and understanding that better. And without going into any details, it always gives us an opportunity to make improvements as we go forward.
Although Nintendo has not come up with a long-term solution to the drift issue just yet, it has made some other adjustments here and there - such as permanently reducing the price of Joy-Con in October. It has also been dragged into a string of legal battles this year, as a result of faulty controllers.
Have you experienced Joy-Con drift yourself? How would you like to see Nintendo tackle this issue moving forward? Leave your thoughts down below.
[source polygon.com]
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Well, that's official acknowledgment it exists at least. A step in the right direction? I personally haven't experienced any drift on my switch yet (had it bad on my Wii U's left stick and Xbox One's right stick though, so I know how awful it can be). I'll probably just invest in a pro controller when it does happen though.
"...and without going into any details..."
Nooooo!! DO go into the details! Omg, please
Most of the time it’s just a little annoyance (and, let’s be frank, this is gaming and there are much more important issues out there [just my two cents and you may have a different opinion, no judgment here]). Playing BoTW and IFR I have noticed it occurring more frequently and the only time it’s really bothered me is gliding with Fenyx in some puzzles (I still don’t quite have gliding to a hover down and having the character move on me is frustrating).
I just need Nintendo to stop acting like it's a lighthearted issue. I treated my Switch with the utmost respect as I do ALL my Nintendo hardware, so I'm still in shock about experiencing drift. Good on those that have avoided it, but you're outnumbered. Nintendo needs to use better parts by the time the Switch Pro comes out. They've more than made enough money from Switch, time to invest that back into the product.
Its just corporate speech, devoid of any meaning
I wish I knew why some people get lucky with no drift and meanwhile I currently have 4 joy-cons all which have a certain amount of drift, some worse than others. Three of them already have been sent for repair and are back to drifting. They do get a lot of use and I have kids but I have noticed them doing anything abusive to the joy-cons (If they can't treat the Switch properly they don't get to play it).
I don't know, it definitely happens with the left ones sooner than the right ones so it does seem to be related to how much use it gets but I don't know.
My left Joy con and both my pro controllers drift, it’s super annoying. I literally have to blow into the joysticks like an old NES cartridge to get them to work temporarily lol
If Joy Cons started to drift, it should have Initial D Super Eurobeat song from inside the Joy Cons (put Deja Vu by Dave Rodgers on it). 😂
Drifting has affected both pairs of my joycons. I have sent them all in for repair multiple times. Ultimately it has made me purchase fewer games. I now only buy and play games that don’t require use of the right stick. In 35 years of gaming I haven’t played with a worse controller nor have I ever experienced “drift” on any other console. I love Nintendo like crazy and will always, but I cannot and will not defend Nintendo about this garbage controller.
It's real folks, it's real
I remember on Breath of the Wild. Standing on the peak of some mountain taking in the vistas when suddenly link starts walking off by himself. Needless to say I tumbled down a good ways and was near death. That as my first experience with the joy con drift lol.
Your Joy= Our Con, we found a way to make big money off our consoles plus the extra peripherals you will be forced to buy!
Since (I am told) gambling is so popular in the UK... can we take an over/under on which comment will be first to employ those immortal dodges, like "It doesn't happen to me, therefore it doesn't exist!" or "You animals mistreat your controllers!"?
The switch has been out for what, 3 years? Joy con drift has been an issue since launch and they never fixed it. Sure you can send in your joycons to get them fixed, but thats not enough of a "fix" to a massive switch problem. Love this console to death but this is not a small issue effecting only a couple people. And don't even get me started on the switch lite......
It’s impressive how that entire quote seems to say literally nothing. It’s a non-statement. Politicians would be proud.
@Josh2396 Exactly this. This has no meaning whatsoever. It's total BS.
I am not remotely convinced this issue is nearly as wide spread as the internet claims. I am sure it's happened to some people. But I don't believe it affects more than maybe 1 in 10. Still too many, but not this seeming universal problem some suggest.
My launch day gray joycons got left stick drift earlier this month, and I replaced them.
I have 3 pro controllers that got drift in the left stick. Although, one procon was thrown. So, maybe that one is my fault It took at least a few hundred hours for the drift to start, so, take that into context.
@Heavyarms55 there hasn’t been a study of what percentage fail (though Nintendo probably knows). A 10% fail rate (in say 1 year) would be massive.
It sucks bc when ever the switch lite starts to drift your gonna have to send the whole thing it, At least Nintendo is taking the right path here.
I've had the Switch with the same pair of joy cons since 2018 with no drift. And I play it pretty much everyday about 50/50 handheld and TV with pro controller.
On my third pair but I am not bothered anymore. Loads of alternatives, like this little beauty for thirty sovs.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08C53WC28/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I’ve been suffering from drift for two years now. Got one of my joy-cons repaired, and they started drifting again. Ugh.
The nintendo defenders have already entered this thread. Get over it. Your favourite company isn't perfect.
Isn't this what they've been doing this whole time? At the very least this is an official acknowledgement from an executive at Nintendo. Hopefully they redesign the Joycons soon.
@koffing It would be. I'm not denying that it's a problem, I saying that people are acting like this is a nearly universal issue, we all have it to some extent, our joycons are all useless.
That's simply not the case. It does appear that some people are having the problem. But I've seen no solid evidence that it's even common.
I wasn't really clear before, but I really think that the problem is about 1/10th as bad as people are making it seem.
The problem with polls like the one NintendoLife did is that people who have the problem are more likely to go online, search up "joycon drift" find the poll and answer it. People who aren't having problems are far less likely.
A general poll of Switch owners covering a variety of topics would be much more likely to paint a clearer picture of how frequent the problem is occurring.
The fact is, despite the loud people online, the Switch is still selling like hotcakes... and yet the number of people complaining about the issue hasn't really gone up noticeably. One would assume that if the problem were that common, as more people bought the hardware, more people would encounter the problem and be upset by it. Right?
Again, clearly there are people having issues. I just don't think it's the wildfire issue that is being claimed.
i eventually gave in a bought a repair kit to replace the sticks myself. it works but im still not happy that defects like this can happen at random, or even again after replacing the sticks
@Heavyarms55 idk, issues blown out of proportions die out relatively quick. joycon drift has been talked about for nearly 3 years now, its still a recurring issue nintendo hopes people forget about, its bled into the real world with several lawsuits. seems like more than "loud internet people" to me
@Heavyarms55 I think there are some really interesting lines of thought to consider. Are certain games or genres more likely to cause it to happen? I played a lot of Splatoon and both my Pro Controllers failed in <2 years. My kids share a Switch and the left joy con failed after 18 months. Were they too aggressive in Minecraft? What percentage of players are aware that it’s a common issue? Yes, it’s all over the internets but as a parent there I know many kids don’t have parents researching and solving technical problems for them. I wonder how many lack words to describe why their controller is being weird. What percentage of owners decide not to use Nintendo’s repair service? I want to to stick it to them, but I don’t want to lose my controllers for a month. I considered buying a new set, but I object on principle. I can’t spend $70 for a new set of controllers that might break. You can comfort yourself that 9/10 people are fine, but with tens of millions of Switch owners that would be millions of joy con failures. It’s bad.
Did Bowser actually say “Joy-Cons” instead of “Joy-Con controllers”? I think that’s the first time we’ve seen a corporate Nintendo employee refer to the controllers in a less-formal fashion.
@Level_Up
Then you might just need some compressed air to get the dust out of the nooks since that seems to be the problem. That's something that's certainly not unique to Joy cons. I've seen it happen with an Xbox controller and I've had it happen with a sony one. Yet knock on wood I've had no issues with my day one Switch
@Level_Up
Youre very unlucky. I have never managed to get a big regular stick like in a pro controller to drift
@koffing
Well, I've actually seen how this works and you wouldn't (I'll say shouldn't as anything in the world is possible) lose them for a month. At least in the region that I am in you print the labels, send them away, they fix them and send them back in about a week or so. You might be doing way too much fretting for nothing I've seen someone send their day one consoles joy cons in well past their guaranteed warranty date and get no static from Nintendo about it.
Didn't have to pay for the repairs or any of that crap. And I've seen this with at least two people and multiple joycons. I'm sure that it can definitely be a little disappointing and even a bit frustrating I'm sure, but it's really not that serious. Unless you are in a place where they restrict your mail or it's slow anyway, you almost assuredly won't be waiting a month.
@RasandeRose
For real though. I guess I have seen it happen before, but I have never been able to do it thank goodness. And it's certainly an oddity. I know quite a few people with Pro controllers though and not one of them has had a drift issue with them to date. And some of these peoples have households/kids that absolutely abuse them. I cringe looking at how some of their Pro controllers are handled. Yet those soldiers are still kicking and dandy fine. I have to agree with you on them just being quite unlucky.
Edit: wholeheartedly agree with the glut of your comments Heavyarms55
I've just now started to experience drift on my left joy con. Bought my Switch a few months after launch. Still inexcusable and unacceptable. It's kind of sad considering I've bought NES and Genesis pads at thrift stores that are over 30 years old at this point, and yet somehow they still manage to work. There's no reason they should be doing this after just a couple of years, especially when I've used my pro controller more than anything since I got the thing.
Not sure if it was a mistake on their end, but a few years ago when my joy-cons were returned after being repaired, I found four joy-cons instead of the two I gave them. Two of them being my originals after checking the serial, and two brand new ones. I found that the originals were still broken, so apparently they couldn't fix them.
Gotta love the way our planet works: corporate human can’t communicate frankly with consumer human because reasons...
@Kaori-chan
They did a quite fix to the connection issue and moved the antenna in left joy-con to another position in newer 2018- editions. Personally, I think Switch wi-fi is fine, but I live in a two room apartment with my router like 5 meters away from the dock, so might be it.
@Heavyarms55 Covid fatalities and long term effects are less than 1in10, so does that mean I can stop socially distancing and wearing my mask if its such a non-issue?
@Desrever
The Detail is that the Issue has a lot of Reasons.
Thats why some can just clean them out under the soft Ribbon and it works fine and others not.
At my Work other Managers from different Operation Points cry that this and this is "again" Wrong.
When we ask for Pictures and Documentation to spot where Things go wrong, it gets silent very fast.
Same Problem will be here.
Many People Cry but lesser send the Controllers in, they rather buy new ones or change the Stick.
So it makes it difficult to sort out those ones that aren't working properly because of "Dirt" and to spot the Issue of the not fixable ones.
I can read out that they analyze what they change and why, that there is no Solution until now shows that there are many Reasons and maybe many stupid ones.
My Joycons have no Drift, but Minor Connection Losts and right one has a really crazy Rumble.
Really impressive what Technology they put in those little Thingis, but seems that makes them sensitive to Errors.
3 sets of joy cons all with drift, makes certain games like fighting games and xenoblade unplayable. I've been playing games for 25 years and this is the first time I've experienced this kind of failure rate.
They need to redesign them before I buy any more.
I wonder if having an option to increase the deadzone would fix the issues over night. Nintendo needs to do something though.
It's the switch lite buyers I feel sorry for.
@Kaori-chan
I have about the same wi-fi signal with my phone as my Switch. I think much of the problem is that many thinks you will get the same signal strength and download speeds with a Switch as with a PS4 or a laptop. But you never will, as the Switch doesn't have a full-size gigabit chip and also very limited room for antennas. If there is a Switch Pro coming in 2021, I really hope Nintendo aims for wi-fi 6 support
Why should they solve this issue. It generates money. Most of the people don´t know that it´s an production issue. These analogue sticks are cheap low quality parts! I bought a few moths ago two analogue sticks with tools for joy con repair for 8€. That´s what I paid. Nintendo would get 1 Stick for 0,5€ or less. The thing is I measured (technically) them with all the tools I have. And they were more accurate then the nintendo sticks. I can´t say how long the new sticks will last. I just want to say that it would be very easy for Nintendo to solve this issue. Remember Nintendo is a Company it will not love, it needs your money.( Don´t forget Animal Crossing 1 Island and main User per Switch)
@Azuris
There is kinda many design faults in Switch compared to something like the Gamecube. Probably due to so much new tech and stressed R&d-cykle due to the Wii U-failure, like the hd rumble and tiny sticks. Crazy laud rumble is due to the motor has gotten loose in there. Its a simple fix by opening the joy-con and use some really strong glue to re-fix it. I also filled some of the space around the motor with silicon to prevent it from shaking loose again.
Nintendo, fix your *****. Why are they getting away with this? Time for some lawsuits.
I have no issues, therefore there is no issue.
Is that correct response??
Nintendo: We know about the problem and we're not going to talk about it, no biggie.
@RetroOutcast NES and Genesis products were made at a time when radio frequency, WiFi, and bluetooth aren't common in gaming yet. Chances are these control drift issues are more than just design flaw, they could be interference flaw as well. If you live in a household that had multiple wireless or internet connection, chances are you will experience interference in the way you play games or navigate devices.
These interference comes from wireless signals that either block your connections of control or render your control completely moot, when your wireless control got interfere, the controller will dangle in a limbo state unless you reset it. Compare products from an isolated generation to a widespread generation is unfair cause products back then were not high tech like they were right now which is why they don't have the widespread problems of today or they had their own little problem and we pretend it was never a problem such as wired controllers, people get trip by them wires all the time.
this issue kinda killed the switch for me ... I got two original grey joy-cons, and due to drift bought a red/blue pair ... Now, I bought a pro-controller, which is fine, but means I play it only in TV mode ... and if I am in TV mode, I use my PS4 mainly (also because, I'm not paying $60 for a game anymore.... when they launch their 'Selects' range, I might go back to some I missed like Luigi's Mansion 3)
If it worked in handheld mode, I would use it more - but I get too frustrated with drift issues
I only ever hear Joy-Con drift. It is half as bad because you can simply swap, after buying it is no problem in the future. But what about Switch Lite? The same analog sticks are installed as in the Joy-Cons. But I've never heard or read of the problem with the Switch lite. Ultimately, it should also affect Switch Lite, then constant reports in news about Joy-Con Drift are only misleading and false. Call it Switch Analog Stick Drift. Since it cannot be purely logical, the Switch Lite should not be affected.
@AnnoyingFrenzy actually Bowser never acknowledges Drift. He says they help with repair and replacement, and are tracking common problems, but those comments are quite deliberately vague, generic tech support waffle. He might as well have added “terms and conditions apply” at the end.
At no point does he admit Drift is a real thing.
@Skeletor1979 there are confirmed reports of it on Lite as well. But as those models are newer, they’ve not had as much time to build up wear and tear, so it’s less common.
@nessisonett I don’t think that is true. It is clearly a pre-planned and no doubt signed off comment but he does at least acknowledge there are issues with drift. If he really wanted he could have made it a condition of the interview that they would not ask about it and Polygon probably would have agreed. Plus he also hints that they are learning from the repair work they are doing and have plans to implement that learning - which is something you want to hear.
Politicians usually answer the question they want to respond to rather than the one asked so a bit unfair on Doug there.
I've recently been using my Switch in handheld much more recently and it's becoming very annoying/almost unplayable at times. I bought a Switch from CEX around 2 years ago and I doubt anyone would repair it. The cost of replacements are pretty expensive still. Poor from Nintendo imo.
@Grot,
Same here, I have had the console since launch with no issues whatsoever, feel sorry for people that have had issues though.
@gaga64 Yeah that makes sense. If I understand correctly then the drift is only to blame for fine dust that can accumulate in the stick. That could mean that normal Joy-Cons are affected more often than Switch Lite. Most people keep the Switch Lite in a protective bag and are therefore less exposed to dust. The normal switch, on the other hand, remains in the dock for many around the clock. The house dust that accumulates around the TV in just a week is not solemn. Of course, it collects nicely and between the analog sticks of the Joy-Cons around the dock. I know a lot of gamers who leave their Switch in the dock for weeks without wiping dust. And since it stands so nicely upright, the dust also collects between the stick cap and housing. Which is why it gets into the inside of the sticks even more easily.
fortunately my extended battery Switch that
i have since dezembre 4th and my cousin Switch have not suffered the dreaded Joy-Con Drift, is ridiculous that 3 years since Switch was released, Nintendo still has not fixed the dreaded Joy-Con Drift, very disapointing for the companie know for the quality of the games and hardware, we even have a still working Game Boy that survived the Golf War, Nintendo are you serious that you can't fix the dreaded Joy-Con Drift given this example?
@sixrings,
Nobody is saying Nintendo is perfect, we are simply stating that we personally have had no issues at all, that's not suggesting people with joycon faults are wrong.
But there is also a suggestion from some with drift that it must be affecting a massive amount of the Switch user base , when in fact we do not have the evidence for any such claim.
@Retro_Player_77 You're seriously defending Nintendo on this?
First of all, while not nearly as old as wired controllers, bluetooth has still been around long enough for Nintendo (and any other company) to get their ***** together. This would have been acceptable back during the Wii/PS3/360 era, but it's just sad two console gens later.
Second, you're not wrong but at least the craftsmanship wasn't shoddy. They did have their own little problems, but I've never ran into a controller having issues barely two years after purchase especially when I've opted to use my Pro Controller most of the time.
Third, and maybe it's just me, but I'd gladly deal with tripping over a wire and falling flat on my face over a controller that steers my character in the opposite direction unless I cough up another $80+ for another one.
So..just to confirm..in the UK we CAN send joycons back for repair? I inquired about it but was told that this was not an option without charge, which was only a fraction less than a new one after recorded P+P etc. A new one seemed better value as all of its other components would be in better shape too.
@Grot I was the same until this summer when 3 Joycons suddenly developed drift! All sent in and hardware parts replaced and a extended years warranty provided. Was very frustrating and now I dont use them unless I have to for fear of them breaking again- luckily I have a pro controller which hasnt shown any issues.....yet
@Mana_Knight I am in the UK and this summer i sent 3 joycons for repair. Nintendo provided a print off for postage, repaired the items, extended warranty and returned in about 20 working days. I didnt pay anything
@Patendo Wow. Ok. Thank you. This was about 2 years ago I asked. Maybe the rep I got was new or something, or that wasn't the case then. Thanks for letting me know!
This is the problem with video game-"journalists", they ask one question and is satisfied with the standard PR-respons.
Journalist: "Why does your console break so easily?"
Company: "We always try to improve our hardware manufacturing".
Journalist"...okey, thank you!"
No follow-up questions, no sceptism. I wonder if the journalist community is just so happy they get to meet the head of Nintendo that they just want to be polite and forget their professional role.
I had drift pretty bad, decided to send it in, covid happened so they told me not to send it in. Then, it just disappeared. I haven't experienced drift since March. Weirdest thing.
Start repairing them in other countries as well!
Now they are talking like they are handling the issue, but they are only handling it in US.
In Europe, they do nothing!
Start fixing your defected products Nintendo!
AND!
It’s not only the Joy-Con issue!
The Pro Controllers drift too!
And I want that repaired as well!
I had all four of my Joy-Cons repaired back in March of this year, and they have been working as expected since then. Either Nintendo changed something under the hood, or I've just been lucky.
"Doug Bowser: First and foremost, we want every consumer to have a great experience with their Nintendo Switch and with the games they play on Nintendo Switch. That’s of utmost importance to us. "
He is so full of it! They have not revised the design! Millions of switches built and sold and they refuse to update the design of their faulty control sticks.
I have access to three different switches none of them launch one is 2 years old one is about 18 months old and one is 9 months old. And all of them have had the issue. Absolutely ridiculous that they did not change out one part of the assembly to fix this issue. It's almost as if Nintendo just wants to sell more joy-cons.
@Retro_Player_77 it's definitely a problem with the actual stick sensors, as when the joy-cons are attached to the switch they actually run through five or six little pins that are connected in the joy-con rail.
I have replaced myself one left joy-con stick that would not clean out and I have cleaned three units and one unit in the pro controller. Apparently something scrapes off inside there where the sensors are and then little bits of that sensor material dust get where they're not supposed to be and it is incredibly frustrating. try to play Mario Odyssey and you let go of the stick and Mark and Mario is walking around by himself very slowly. It's shawty as hell and Nintendo should be very very ashamed we have been talking about this for years now and Nintendo just sits there with their thumb up their butt.
The lite having the issue is why I won't buy my daughter one. She's a little small for the full sized one and I don't want to have to send the whole console in to get a stick fixed.
Contacted Nintendo and true to their word they fixed both joy cons and they work better than ever. Tracking the order wasn't great but they fixed them so I'm happy 😊
@Heavyarms55 mine drift. I didn't even know it was a widespread issue till my friend randomly said they've replaced 2 of them due to it. Then I was like wow, other people have this issue? Lol almost everyone I have asked since then has dealt with drifting.
@ChaosBadger777 Are you seriously comparing this to COVID? Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
I'm comparing the statistics, you said 1 in 10 isn't a universal problem - I simply used Covid to show that those numbers could pose an everybody problem and shouldn't be ignored just because it doesn't effect you.
@Tobo91 I've taken advantage of the free Joy-Con repair service at least four different times to date. I mean, it's nice that Nintendo isn't charging us to fix their screwup, but it's a a poor solution, and certainly Nintendo isn't going to offer free repairs and replacements indefinitely.
Remember kids, don't be a drift denier!
@johnvboy generally Nintendo is praised for their hardware being indestructible even by those whom are not Nintendo fans. The mere fact that there is such an uproar should indicate it is more than an annoying few.
@gameboy1975 my whole life my parents bought Toyota never any real mechanical problems. I wanted a FIAT 500 so bad. I bought one thinking I only put maybe 8000km on my car a year. In 8 years and 75000km I had a new transmission, gearbox, clutch, two starters, two batteries, two new door handles, a firmware update that was causing my wipers to randomly start and stop for no reason, another firmware update that fixed a starting issue, two new wire harnesses. You know FIAT repaired everything for free and always gave me a rental car for free. At first I didn't care because they were so nice to me and it was all free. By the time I sold it I was tired of working remotely from a car dealership waiting room. I bought a Toyota Prius next. I have 50000 km on it and all I have done is changed the oil.
I have owned every single Nintendo system minus the virtualboy. This is the first system I have hardware related issues. Not only that I own four switches and guess what three of them have drift. The fourth I just gave up and used the D pad and played retro games undocked and used a pro controller docked. But you know its all my imagination and as long as Nintendo is nice and does it for free its not really a big deal.
@sixrings,
Never said it was only a few people, but by the same token we do not know how many are being affected by all this, and an uproar online hardly indicates anything.
The way I've delt with this is to buy a new set, swap them, and return the defective set. Not my fault they don't work properly and I'm not dealing with the repair process.
@johnvboy we don't know how many because only nintendo would know that and I'm pretty sure with all the lawsuits they aren't exacted excited to share those numbers.
Every poll nintendolife does shows a large majority have experienced drift, so perhaps it isn't as minor as an uproar as you're making it out to be.
I have had 3 joycons with drift
@MeloMan your wrong. The drift issue is not as big of a deal as you actually think. Yes it happens and it happens with all controllers eventually. We have 4 switches and 8 sets of joy cons and 3 pro controllers and only one set of ours got drift issues and it was sent in and replaced free of charge. I've had and so has all of my friends more issues with xbox and the crappy ps controllers than I have with any Nintendo controllers, hell I e had more issues with my gaming keyboards and mouse than I have with any of my Nintendo products
@sixrings,
My issue with gaming sites conducting polls is it's a percentage of a smallish minority, who will say if they have issues.
I would like a poll for the non forum posting Nintendo Switch users out there, the mass majority of people that own the console.
@Mountain_Man I get ya. I've noticed with the newer version they definitely feel different and the sticks feel better. Hoping a Switch Pro will be announced for 2021! 😊
My drifting joy con has been replaced and now it won’t hold a charge.
Losing the will to live with these issues Nintendo!
@johnvboy well I think we're out of luck finding a poll like that. It just seems as an excuse to move the goal post and pretend the problem isn't that big.
But my big grip is that the first time I had drift I called their service line and they wanted to charge me to fix them. By that time joy con drift had become common place. They refused to accept any responsibility until legal action. Great now they can fix my joy cons for free but I did buy a second pair because buying new cost marginally more than their repair service. In the end the new ones drifted to.
Had issues with both left sticks so I replaced them early in 2020. Now both right sticks are going wonky!
@sixrings
Not for nothing homeboy, but I didn't need to know (nor do I care) for you or your parents vehicle history. We're talking about video games, toys here. Not something that costs thousands & could be essential to your life or lifestyle. And honestly at the end of the day, nobody ever said that you were making it up, that it was in your mind or whatever the heck you said. that it was. That's just you being a drama queen. As I've clearly stated that I've seen it happen and have acknowledged it multiple times.
However, since you brought it up, given the way that you incessantly whine about Nintendo, label anyone that doesn't condemn them or have issues with them the way that you do as loyalists, apologists or whatever & cape for ea while you disparage them (& compare them) for whatever reason, it's not beyond the realm of possibility to think that you might be exaggerating. Especially seeing how you went on your little fictitious woe is me rant pretending like I said or was insinuating something I didn't.
Clearly it's time to just mute you so that's the last of your nonsense I see & leaving you to your masochistic ways. Whining about products you're not forced to indulge in & could easily ignore. G'bye.
@gameboy1975 He's in his 40s too...
I'm a nintendo fan. But you have to be blind not to see some of these glaring issues particularly in this generation. If I didn't love my switch I wouldn't own four. But it's not without its faults and some of these are not as trivial as people are making them out to be. Maybe it is the online way of agreeing to disagree is simply tell the person off for the last time and then push the mute button.
Yes there are bigger issues in life. Doesn't change the fact I would like my fairly expensive product from a company, which historically makes well constructed products, to last without needing to be sent in for repairs over and over again.
@sixrings,
Nothing to do with moving goal posts, I would like a proper number to see how many are experiencing issues, as at the moment we only seem to know how many core gamers this is affecting.
There will be many people like you having issues, but there will also be people like me with no issues at all.
@johnvboy to those with issues it comes off as being dismissive. There is no doubt I am spending too much time on these threads expressing my frustration but part of that circle is continuing feeling like people think you are inventing issues. Perhaps sending joy cons away for free isn't as big of a hastle to some. Maybe paying for new joy cons isn't a big deal. But this isn't representative of the company I grew up loving.
@johnvboy I'll take comfort that MeloMan well written comment has the most likes in this thread. Makes me believe that others have this issue but they have given up fighting over it.
@WiltonRoots hey man. I'm married. Have kids. A job. A house. I come on this one site for a break from my responsibilities some time. Sorry somehow I didn't fit the mold of whatever a forty year old adult should sound like in your mind. Perhaps I'll do better next year. Go nintendo!
@sixrings Still no excuse to cry like a teenager....act your age sometimes, it's worth a try.
@sixrings,
Do you and others not understand that to people without issues, your replies to our comments are also very dismissive, this sort of thing works both ways.
@sixrings,
So the amount of likes a comment gets makes it more true?, not seeing any evidence to this.
@johnvboy If a good size group of people who rarely complain about items are suddenly complaining about items I would think perhaps there is a problem.
Now I maybe seen as a complainer on this site. I would like more third party support and Nintendo to not nickel and dime me. Please give me some voice chat online without the need of a phone app and a way to message people natively please and thank you.
However generally this site is very positive and pro Nintendo. Except when it comes to drift where all of a sudden people who generally love Nintendo lament their personal experiences. Sure there are a few who say they never experienced it or that if they do it isn't a big deal but in general there is a large typically positive group of people in here which magically become quite negative when we are talking about drift.
If I did not experience drift, I would like to think I would be open minded to the fact that perhaps others have, are frustrated, and be sympathetic. Instead what we get here is well unless I see the data from Doug Bowser himself I am going to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt.
Sorry there is no real evidence that is satisfactory.
@WiltonRoots expressing frustration with something is not crying like a teenager. Especially when we are in a thread which is supposed to be for talking about ones experiences in video games. It isn't exactly like I am just on Facebook randomly ranting to people who have no interest in video games. Perhaps your idea of adult behaviour is to always to look at the cup half full. If it isn't then it becomes subjective of what topics one is allowed to be frustrated about while still viewed as an adult.
Either way passively aggressively writing "He's in his 40s too..." isn't exactly the poster image of adulthood. I would rather be yelled at and muted than talked down to.
“ And without going into any details”
That’s the problem Doug, we would like details. Not two paragraphs of waffle with zero details...
@sixrings,
Never said you are a complainer, and no doubt I would be the first to moan if I had any issues, but all issues aside the main bone of contention on here seems to be how widespread the problem is, and there is no definitive answer to that question.
@johnvboy Thank you John. It is hard sometimes to tell who is actually open to a conversation in here while there are others who want to write myself off as a Debbie downer who is never happy.
Yes I wish we had more widespread information. However I don't think we are ever going to get it. I hate to say it but Microsoft with the RROD dealt with their issues better. They exchanged systems and fixed the problems. Three years in I am not sure we are ever going to see a real fix. In twenty years the few times I play my switch I will just pray it doesn't drift...
@sixrings,
I would never suggest people are lying about this, or that there are not a lot of people affected, but I just think some should stop suggesting it's everybody, when there is no evidence to back that up.
I do hope you get your issues sorted as I can imagine it's very annoying, and I feel kind of guilty for having no issues at all.
@sixrings Fair dos but when you spam threads with your constant complaints it's not exactly helping your cause is it? You got your message across clearly the first time and surely you must know by now the people in here can make zero difference whatsoever to your plight. You end up sounding like a broken record like you did with "Pikman".
In fact - on the 3rd of November, during the last time we spoke, I wrote this: "Fix your framerates and resolution Nintendo!!!!!"
Guess what, nobody at Nintendo got back to me.
@WiltonRoots but I didn't complain at NSMBUD, MK8D, SSBU, Splatoon2, Zelda Links Awakening (minor frame rate drops aside), DKTF, LM3, and even defended Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games. All of those games I love.
There is no doubt I do complain sometimes but I feel my complaints are in reason. Pricing, broken hardware, or tech issues are not things I like to gloss over when Nintendo has taken enough of my money (especially during the Wii u era), have built in the past well constructed hardware, and have made games with smooth frame rates before.
Your take is vote with your wallet which I already do. However I do not believe that complaining has no impact. Cyberpunk issues refunds because of all the complaints. Our voice does have impact.
@sixrings,
There is a slight difference with Cyberpunk hough, this game is pretty much unplayable on the Base Ps4/Xbox One consoles, and all those owners are affected, basically they did not want to take a large financial hit on making the game for the new generation consoles, which they should have done.
@WiltonRoots
" In fact - on the 3rd of November, during the last time we spoke, I wrote this: "Fix your framerates and resolution Nintendo!!!!! "
And they did not get back to you, do they know who you are?.
@johnvboy how about people complaining online, on twitter, wherever and then all of a sudden we got inverted controls plus gamecube controller support in the anniversary collection.
@sixrings,
I guess sometimes things get sorted, depends on how easy the issue is to fix.
@WiltonRoots
Wow, that's crazy. Makes it all the more pathetic.
@gameboy1975 @WiltonRoots this is great, now the more mature adults are calling whom they think inferior to them names. Thanks for helping keep a civil environment around here.
Weird, because Nintendo UK said it wasn’t their responsibility to fix my Joy-Cons when they started to drift.
@johnvboy yep tell me about it. Maybe I should contact Nintendo directly.
@WiltonRoots,
I think you should stand outside Nintendo HQ in Japan, with a placard so they get the message.
My left gray joycon got drift after having been sent in twice; I'm tired of sending them out and not seeing them for a week or two.
I finally broke down and opened up my left gray joycon to replace its joystick, plus I applied a sick-looking white shell too it. Now I can go dark gray/white for a Yin Yang look, or pair it with one of my reds for Nintendo logo colors.
The diy repair job was pretty tricky but I'm glad I did it, just gotta find a really good hi-res how-to video and follow instructions as closely as possible.
@Sandro89 They're getting away with it because people continue to simp for this company that does not, in any way, care about them so long as they continue to get money.
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