They may be entirely fictional characters but it's fair to assume that in Super Mario canon, the famous Italian siblings must have a father - but Nintendo has never really acknowledged the fact. Or has it?
Reddit user l33tredrocket appears to have found evidence that Mario and Luigi's papa does indeed exist in some form - the form in this case being a metal tray which formed part of an early Mario Bros. merchandising push.
The tray shows the brothers in their home, with a strangely-rendered Bowser emerging from the TV set. Putting aside this rather worrying image for a second, we spot a portrait on the wall which features a man who looks very much like Mario but has grey hair and is dressed in blue overalls. He's also smoking a pipe, just like wise old dads do. We think.
Another Reddit user - Inkwild - has taken this basic headshot and created a full-figure image of the mysterious "SR".
It's highly likely that this character exists only in the imagination of the artist who created this particular piece of long-forgotten promotional artwork, but just think - someone at Nintendo will have signed off on this, which - for some fans - is enough confirmation that "SR" (Super Reginald? Super Ronald? Super Rodriguez? Or perhaps, just plain old "Senior"?) is indeed the dad of the world's most famous plumbers.
Thanks to Arjun for the tip!
[source gamnesia.com]
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i always thought the Mario from the original Donkey Kong was their dad
and that Donkey became Cranky and the current Donkey is the son of DKJR
Santa Raus? Nah, it most likely stands for Senior. And because it's ambiguous, it could be Mario Sr., Luigi Sr. or something completely different. Anyway, it's all a load of nonsense.
@FullbringIchigo Yeah I'm pretty sure that is the case.
@FullbringIchigo I always thought Mario in that was always Mario, it was just DK which turned into Cranky Kong. Could be wrong though.
It's always fun to look back on weird old promotional artwork, especially for video games.
@Steelhead No, that's not the case. @FullbringIchigo got the DK part right, @Keithin8a got the Mario part right. Mario is just Mario, the original DK is Cranky and DK Jr. is either a young DK or DK's father, depending on which source you trust.
Mario Mario
Luigi Mario
Mario Mario Sr.
(Senior)
I would assume it means that but where are we getting the SR from? It's in the blown up image done by the Redditor but very clearly not in the original image - the peak of his hat is covering where any letter would be.
Maybe it doesn't matter who's Mario's Dad is.
Just like how the Hyrule Historia Timeline doesn't mean much.
Since the original Donkey Kong was supposed to be a licensed Popeye game, that pipe seems oddly fitting.
Funny enough, I never stopped to think about Mario's actual parents. Yet again, we never came to an official conclusion to who's Bowser Jr.'s mother, so it's not much of a serious debate(And no, I won't accept Miyamoto as the answer for that).
so he has a father so surely he has a mother?
Eh ?!
@T_Player_Guy
Only Shigeru Miyamoto know...
Nintendo has already acknowledged the existence of Mario and Luigi parents. Not only that but they're actually in a video game. The ending of Super Mario World 2: Yoshis Island. We can't see their faces but we know they're residents of the mushroom kingdom
Whoa!
My cousin has this tray ( along with tmnt trays)
I'm so glad the look of Mario characters evolved over the years, golly this looks horrendous.
I'm afraid I can't say the same for Sonic and co though...
@FullbringIchigo
@Piersen
I'll go with Jurgens Moritz Paco Manero.
You know, JU-M-P-MAN.
So someone signing off on MM art from Capcom confirms that MM is old dude with a gun?
Reddit sperge as news... this will be a sloooooow week
@FullbringIchigo It does make sense... the DK/Cranky/DKJr relationship is widely accepted... but it that was true, then it wouldn't make sense why the original DK had aged so much while Mario hadn't... so it would make sense for there to be a similar generation leap.
(This theory also means that Pauline could be Mario and Luigi's mother.)
Lol, random. But where in the original pic does it say 'sr' on the guy's cap?
Also... that Toad to the right. T_T
@SM4SHshorts Horrendous . . . but with charm and character out the wahooza!
For comparison:
Mario's design is not exactly oozing charm and character these days; in fact, I'd say it's pretty generic and bland in some ways with its very computery rendered look—thank God the games themselves are flowing with charm and character for the most part. Although, Mario is still an iconic design design regardless, and still better than most mascot characters.
The artwork has come a long way, just look at those Toads!
This got me thinking, how is that Nintendo haven't expanded the Mario universe in this form? Imagine introducing Mario's Dad as a playable character in a new game. We almost always play as either Mario or Luigi, there so much possibilities.
I wanted their dad to be a pirate.
...now who is the mother??? And look at that Toad in the picture! Lol
I like the star calling for help
B-but I thought Miyamoto was their daddy? The plot thickens...
I am fully prepared to accept this.
I love super old Nintendo art like this. Kinda ugly, nonsensical and weird as heck. Good stuff.
The SR was added for the fan art and I believe it did indeed mean senior, they've actually changed it to a P now for Papa Mario.
I actually think this may be a nod to Mario's early days as a Popeye game, He even dresses a bit like Bluto! Is Bluto Mario's dad?!
So.... digging a little deeper I found that there have been quite a few times Papa Mario has popped up, multiple times in the cartoon series (wearing blue and yellow each time again).
http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Marioanddad.jpg
Another occurrence (I think from Yoshis Island instruction manual) http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/01/NCS_Mario%27s_Father.jpg
has him chasing baby Mario again with a pipe. I think he is cannon and we just weren't paying much attention over the years....cause it really isn't super important. The Jumpman theory seems pretty solid, there have been 2 Marios.
Looks like a Swedish version of Mario with a beard.
@retropunky
I agree! Especially the Toad to the right. It looks so weird...
@warp3d
GRAND DAD?!
SR's shirt color makes him look like he's just wearing overalls, and has a farmer's tan
Super Roberto. it has to be!
I guess it's canon now. At least I'll adopt it into my head-canon!
SR is for "Supem Rario"
Early Mario artwork was so weird. Look at those toads, and Luigi's design, and I don't even need to mention Bowser.
Wow. I'm pretty sure I've seen that artwork before. Maybe on a lunchbox. The Toadstool people are really ringing a bell. As for King Koopa, I think that looks a lot like how he appears in the original game. Likewise, that's how Luigi was portrayed in all the merchandise. A little off-model here, but I remember having a keychain which was pretty much just the color swap done on Mario. White overalls. Green shirt. Nobody really talks about Super Mario 2 anymore, but that game established a lot of how the characters look now. Everything before that point is like a different world.
Cool! Now we just need their mother.
Maybe this can be a topic on Gametheory, maybe that's Mario in a different timeline in the future who went into a different timeline in the past, got married and had children, only to get sucked into a different dimension, so this would mean Mario is his own father, thanks for reading
Trippy.
I'm assuming SR stands for "senior". But the question is, is he Mario Mario Sr., or Luigi Mario Sr.?
Also, I think that particular Bowser has been stomped on the head a few times too many.
@Ninten-san @warp3d
FLEENSTONES??!
Goes on to also make you wonder how Bowser had kids? Hmm...what did bowser do to Peach when she was held hostage??? Anyway, if you watch any of the Super Mario Bros Super Show, there are some scenes that show the same picture in the background hanging on the wall. Maybe that was Mario's father (when Mario was shown in a blue shirt instead of red) in the original covers.
Feel free to RT https://twitter.com/OtroraGames/status/775387204378066944
One thing is certain, art styles have definitely improved. I'm not sure which is stranger, Bower, Toad, or Luigi.
Why are people calling him SR? I can't see that on his hat in the picture.
Well, there are several toads (3),stars(3), Bowser, a Goompa, and the portrait of a blonde lady on the far left (Peach?). Also, there is a Koopa with a flag above the phone cabinet.
@T_Player_Guy Miyamoto is Bowser Jr.'s mother?!
This will haunt me forever...
Luigi Sr. Then, the overambitious older son, Mario, ended up taking over the family business. Hence, why it's Mario Bros. instead of Luigi Bros.
Mario is eternal, never born, never getting old. He lives off the souls of dead koopas and goombas.
Or boos are dead Marios.
More likely no one bothered to make him a father as he is a fictional character.
Mario and Luigi's mother and father are Jumpman (aka Mario Sr.) and Pauline.
@Borikuapr Actually that wasn't Mario & Luigi's parents. Yoshi's New Island starts at the point Yoshi's Island ends (it's set between the first and the DS ones) where it's revealed the stork actually delivered them to the wrong people.
@roy130390 At least that what I heard according to Super Mario Maker Q&A video made by Nintendo's YouTube channel. I'm pretty sure we are yet to know about his actual mother's indentity.
Guys, it's so obviously Superb Runguy. That's where Mario inherited his running ability. Poor Sr never knew how to jump, like his son, though.
Cool piece of merchandise.
I know we met their mom in the SMBSS.
Met Bowser's too.
It's gotta be SUPER REGGIE!
Where else could Mario learn all his moves but from the master of KICKING ASS AND TAKING NAMES. ;D
Mario's dad is Jumpman, this could be his grandfather though.
That could be their father or uncle or relatives, I believe Mario and Luigi's father is actually Jumpman and their mother is Pauline since Cranky is the original Donkey Kong. That makes sense cause the current Mario and the current Donkey Kong are about the same age unless the primate age faster.
I always liked that weird old promotional art.
@FullbringIchigo wow, i never knew that i wanted to think that as a theory. Thanks
@DragonEleven @retro_player_22 Well, since apes only live about half as long as humans, it could be that Mario was only in his late teens or early 20's when he first fought DK, and it's only been about 15 years of in-universe time since then, long enough for the original DK to grow old while Mario is still only in his late 30's or so.
@SmaMan @Ninten-san @warp3d
SIIVAGUNNER?!
Oh my gosh... He's wearing the same color outfit as Eario!
Truly, this means Eario really is realted to the Mario Bros.!
Mario to his father (in Mario's voice): "Papa!"
Senior Ramiro?
@FullbringIchigo but hey that's just a theory.....a GAAAAAAME theory.
so whos the mother?
@MarcelRguez Or they're just making this crap up as they go along?
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