Many no doubt remember that historic moment when the Wii U was first announced onstage and John Riccitiello – then-CEO of EA – took to the stage to announce an "unprecedented partnership" between his company and Nintendo. For a time, things were looking pretty good, but EA was pretty quick to jump ship when it became apparent that the Wii U would be an albatross. Since then, the company has been very noncommittal in its stance towards Nintendo platforms, and it sounds like support for NX could be limited.
Game Informer recently caught up with EA's Vice President, Patrick Soderlund, to discuss the company's plans concerning support for Project Scorpio, Playstation Neo, and the NX. His response on Nintendo was about as diplomatic as you'd expect, praising the company's iconic status and stable of IP, but echoing a 'wait and see' approach in terms of NX support.
Nintendo is such an instrumental part of our whole industry. They deserve to be successful, and they deserve to be a major player in the business, given their pedigree. It's not only the machines that they've built, but also the IPs they've brought to market. There are very few companies like Nintendo. Whenever they bring something to market that we see an addressable market for, we'll be there. Given that they haven't announced [a new console] officially or shown it, I can't comment specifically.
Bear in mind that the NX sounds as though it'll be more of a portable console than a home console, but it doesn't sound like EA is too enthused at the thought of supporting Nintendo yet.
What do you think? Would you like to see EA games on Nintendo platforms? Do you think EA will support the NX? Drop us a comment in the section below.
[source gameinformer.com]
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Can't say I blame 'em. Waiting for an official reveal and seeing how it performs is, perhaps, the best approach.
Im reading that they won't be supporting nx. No doubt EA is fully aware of what the nx is. If they had games lined up pre launch, which i would suggest is best approach to market, why wouldnt they at leqst give that away? Why would ea invest in another wacky console with massively different architecture to the existing 2 major home console competitors for which they can almost cut and paste games for changing some control pad letters. Sounds like a diplomatic no to me.
Not that i mind. I want something cool from nintendo that takes off like a rocket ship. Fingers crossed.
EA can take there garbage bin games somewhere else!
Nintendo just needs to get on with it already. If they have anything in the works (and that's doubtful at the moment) then Nintendo is in fact making them keep it to themselves till the reveal. The only games we really know about are games that make sense like Just Dance because that comes out for everything. Nintendo keeps state secrets better then most country's.
Having Madden, STAR WARS, and Battlefield on the NX would be nice....
Put up or shut up EA.
@Minotaurgamer I love that movie! Never saw the proper order/reverse version though.
On the bright side, at least they're not claiming an "unrepresented partnership" only to back out after in my opinion one good game game (Need for Speed: Most Wanted) and a couple of what I feel are token attempts (NFL 2013, Mass Effect 3, etc). if they would have followed Capcom lead by adding SNES and Wii titles to the eshop then I would be more optimistic about their press release. On a semi-related note I realise that the ME3 port was relatively well done but I passed on it since I have a;; three of them on PC already and while good games I couldn't justify double dipping for 1/3 of the games I had already. If they would have made a trilogy like they did on PS3 and the 360 I would have probably picked it up to see how well they implemented gamepad suport...
EA has burned Nintendo fans for quite some time now so they've got some major bridges to rebuild before many core Nintendo fans will even give a crap about what they "may" bring to the NX.
Their atrocious handling of the Star Wars license so far (the franchise most Nintendo fans would be interested in) has all the lazy and greedy stink that permeates a lot of their modern work. Battlefront has set a scary vibe for their future handling of the license considering they still have exclusive rights until 2023 (I bet Disney is wishing they rethought that deal).
Their sports titles are solid but ultimately lackluster yearly updates mainly due to lack of competition which has bred laziness (Madden's NFL exclusivity has not helped that franchise outside of lining EA's bank account). The one true competitor, NBA 2K, has crushed NBA Live every year proving that EA is scared to allow real competition against them.
Need for Speed has become a shell of its past self with its awful online only structure and lack of depth present in past titles. It may be too early to say but Mass Effect Andromeda could easily slip into the vein of the action heavy and much maligned Mass Effect 3 versus the more RPG driven Mass Effect 1 which put the series on the map since some of the key dev crew are gone.
The only title that truly shows promise right now is Battlefield 1 which could be the shot in the arm that the FPS genre needs considering how low the bar has been set by Call of Duty and all of its copycats. The multiplayer looks great but the real test will be the campaign and single player content which will hopefully showcase something special. My current fear is that, like Star Wars Battlefront, they will gate a ton of content behind DLC and Season Passes.
In the end, EA has a lot of work ahead of it before they matter to Nintendo again. If the NX is a success which is a real possibility, EA will dump their sports titles onto it for a quick buck but will likely go back to their habits of dumping lazy feature gimped ports of other titles on Nintendo and then act surprised when they don't sell. They have shown time and time again that if a company isn't greasing their palms for exclusives (like Sony and Microsoft), they will do the bare minimum work and blame anyone but themselves when it fails. I dare EA to prove me wrong.
I doesn't matter to me, I haven't bought an EA game since the launch of Origin and I don't plan to anytime soon.
In general their games either have an awful concept or an awful implementation of a good concept.
So usual PR speak for "we don't have nothing"
@Minotaurgamer that should be a pic of Bethseda's Todd Howard
It's frustrating EA own sports in their entirety. The rest of it isn't that essential to most Nintendo gamers, but I get the feeling the Wii U was really hurt by a lack of team sport games (seeing local multiplayer is THE Nintendo credo). I think that if EA aren't going 'to play ball' (literally) on the NX, they need to produce a Football (Soccer) and a Basketball game, along with a better Tennis game this time. Instead of using Mario, just go back to using Mii's. Imagine a Footy game with the ability of customising a team of Mii's as your friends, with a certain percentage of Skill points, that would appease most people.
I'm just waiting for the NX reveal itself. What are they waiting for? We're seven months away from the console being available to consumers and still know absolutely nothing concrete.
More PR BS as usual, nothing to see here, move along.
Can't blame them (ea).
Don't know nothing about the system.
Only Nintendo have officially announced NX.
Only Nintendo have officially announced NX.
Either they know about NX or they don't, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nintendo haven't shown them anything at all after dropping Wii U like a hot brick.
Besides, there are more partners for them to choose from, and rumours would suggest they are going with their close Japanese publishers first. Yes, EA have a sports monopoly, but at the same time they also release buggy, half finished games with ridiculous levels of DLC. If EA not supporting Nintendo means we don't have to put up with that crap, then I say stuff 'em.
Wonder if they're still upset over the Wii U not being an Origin box?
I think EA and a lot of game companies know what the hardware is like maybe not the final version but they know. If they want to release there games on the launch date. They got to know what the hardware of like because it takes time to make games and they got 7 months left
Just never understood how they expected Wii U to become as great as Wii, when they don't support the platform. If nobody releases games for a platform ofc nobody will buy it. If they don't release games for the WiiU, and people want to play their games, ofc they have to go somewhere else. Im not expecting anything from EA nor Ubisoft when it comes to NX. We know all they care about is releasing half assed broken PC games.
It's pretty simple really: If NX sells like DS/Wii/PS2 they will be all over it, if it sells like Wii U they won't. Unlike Nintendo they don't have to be in at the very beginning, they can afford to wait and see how things are looking.
Please don't give this airtime.
It's worrying that once again the big third parties don't seem to be commited to Nintendo's new console that's about to launch.
The Sims 4 console / portable version, Reboot of MySims series please...
Wanna see that franchises again on HD.
I don't care for EA franchises so he can go shove it.
@AJ_Lethal 'So usual PR speak for "we don't have nothing"'
So, they do have something? ;p
Meh, I can live without EA games.
dont even want ea.they can keep their bad games and even worse attitude.i play a nintendo for nintendo games.
That sure sounds like "We've looked at it and we're not interested.", but hopefully the NX will get big enough sales numbers to make EA and other major third parties change their tune.
That's what any developer would do, there's always time to say no after seeing launch numbers.
Yes, least they could do is put B.O.B. and General Chaos on Virtual Console.
not exactly they had boatloads of games lined up before Ps4 and Xb1 came to market.
those systems didnt have to prove themselves.
@VanillaLake True, after WiiU, developers are understandably hesitant to commit to NX development, first see how NX gets received before putting a load of resources in developing for it, and since Nintendo are still playing "I know something you don't know" with the consumers, knowing how it will be received is still a ways off...
@PleaseUnderstan General Chaos would be awesome, but EA doesn't care. That game was fun!!
Effing Aholes! It's in the name!
I do enjoy some of their games but they've treated me as a Nintendo only owner really badly since the Gamecube so I'd be torn about rewarding a company that's been a complete #%@! that suddenly decides they want back in. I don't think they will be back though.
If they give the NX a fair chance and release up to date ports of their games at the same time as the other consoles and their games still don't sell well,then fair enough,pull support.It would be bad business to do otherwise.But the more likely scenario is they will release dated ports with missing features for full price,never put them on sale and then complain when Nintendo fans don't buy them.PS and Xbox owners wouldn't put up with it so why should Nintendo fans!
I really only read it as a placeholder comment since they can't say anything yet. I don't know where people are reading the rest.
EA isn't some evil entity like people enjoy pretending it is and they own fantastic properties like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Garden Warfare, Battlefront, and more.
One of my guilty pleasures is sports games. Love 'em. I've been getting by with Madden 13 since the launch of the Wii U, even though it still routinely crashes my console and forces a restart since it was a sloppy launch port. For the love of god PLEASE give me at least one legit Madden game for the NX. That's all I ask. I'd happily waste $60 each year for the new, glorified roster update if I could, but please give me at least one!
I would like too see EA products on a Nintendo platform even if some of the games I am not interested in.
@MailOrderNinja You must be a new Nintendo fan. That comment was far to rational and measured. Lol.
There's one game from EA that I love, and it's Mass Effect.
So this is my interest point. Some Star Wars game maybe, but only if it feel like a complete game.
But I have a PS4 already so I'm more interested in exclusives for NX.
@GrailUK lol. I've been around since NES so not sure I'd call myself new.
"Would you like to see EA games on Nintendo platforms?"
Yes of course, who wouldn't? The more games the better, nobody has to buy them. What Nintendo really needs from EA is Sport games. No point trying to sell the machine as being for multiplayer if you don't have Sport games.
@BionicDodo
Bingo . Exactly right. I expect a lot of third parties to wait and see.
I don't even know why I bother reading these type of articles? They're all the same except for the CEO & company names. Just remove EA and replace it with your favorite third party developer.
.....although, I personally read the article in hopes of seeing Madden or FIFA or Star Wars or Mirror's Edge!
@electrolite77 I would be happy with PES tbh
The article is very generic.
TRIVIA: The most expensive Nintendo eshop game is EA's 2012 game, FIFA 2013 at €70 !!!!!
@GrailUK Yep,a single up to date PES for NX with squad and kit DLC released for the next 2 or 3 seasons after and I'll be more than happy.PES on Wii was superb at times but really rough around the edges.A simple port of the main PES game with touchscreen menus would be great.
I'm sure Nintendo will be juuuuust fine without EA, once again.
I haven't bought an EA game since the GameCube and those were the ones that featured Mario characters, SSX and NBA Street 3, plus Fight Night with Super Punch-Out.
As for current EA, they can in the immortal words of The Rock, take their game library, shine it up so it's nice and pretty, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up their candy asses.
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@electrolite77
Eh... The ONLY EA game that i like MOST is ....The Sims series and also MySims (Aw...MySims characters are so cute :3 ).
Well, now i prefer Console or Portable version because i quit from any PC games. I decided to stop playing any PC titles because i have no interest with PC games anymore.
People should just stop pretending that third party support is going to happen. So far no third party is willing to support the system. Regardless of the quality of EA's games, their games are big sellers and Nintendo needs them.
Sounds like EA didn't get a dev kit right off the bat like some of nintendo's other 3rd party players they are working with. I hope this thing does wonders and makes some of these 3rd party developers have to grovel back to nintendo to make games on their platform again.
@TreonsRealm Absolutely well said tops mate and a direct Dart to hart of EA.You would have thought that they would have learnt a lesson when it comes to EA talking to use nintendo fans.We don't especially trust them.I personally can stand them.Or any 3RD party that treats,me like second hand gamer
@Anti-Matter
That's great. I never got into Sims at all. Lots of people do like Sport games though, and they sell.
@samuelvictor "That said, don't read this as 100% praise for EA"
I think most commenters don't see it like that at all, but more like that EA will not support Nintendo at all.
Factually and logically, this is a very normal statement from a large company whose main purpose in publishing content on consoles is making money. They want to see where Nintendo's efforts with this new console will lead to and if it's successful, these parties will join in, that is almost a given.
And besides that, there's still the possibility of the NDA's. Even big companies have to honor those, so they can't just make exceptions, unless it's a game that most people know is going to be found on practically every platform on Earth, like Just Dance, so that game being revealed as an NX title tells us absolutely nothing about the hardware itself, contrary to popular (and rather negative) belief that it is a definite sign that the hardware will be bad and weak.
By the way, still waiting on your question...
(you can also send me a message through Xbox Live, if you have that)
@electrolite77
But for me, Sports games especially done by Western developers, even from EA just completely ZERO . Never care about that. Instead, i will looking Cartoonish style of Sport games with very Unique addition. Let's Say Mario Sonic series or Mario Sports Mix. That will attract me more than boring Western sport games.
I like to play something colorful, calm, beautiful and unique that i found on The Sims series. I like to use my creativity to design my own house and shaping the community. I'm interested with Art so that's why i like to play with Life-Sims games. Also, MySims was the reason why i started to buy Wii because i fell in love at first sight when i looked at the cuteness of Chibi form. Instant Love at first sight. But well... the gameplay somewhat Blah but i don't really mind. Sorry if i keep comparing between Japanese and Western games.
I despise EA, but I wish somebody, anybody, would make a portable hockey game...
@MysticX Exactly.
@Anti-Matter
Thing is, the cartoony sports games aren't very popular. Whereas FIFA and Madden for example have sold 100 million each across the series (and recent FIFA games have been very good). Nintendo could really do with those games on board especially if they're trying to sell their consoles as a multiplayerahine and sell it to heir families.
@BinaryFragger
Agreed. They can't win either way.
I don't like EA for too many reasons that I cannot be bothered to explain. I haven't bought EA games in many years. I won't be missing EA in the slightest, but Nintendo needs them.
They have a hold of sports games and Star Wars and no console should just get by without them.
Nintendo needs EA. EA does not need Nintendo. So Kimishima will have to sort it out somehow. Gracefully and pragmatically so.
@electrolite77
Doesn't matter for me. Even you said the cartoonish style are not so popular but stil can capturing my attention. I'm tired with Realistic HD graphic, that's perfection really boring for me. I'm not even like Soccer at all. Just the worst sport ever for me. I don't care if sold so crazy until million numbers. Why should i care for those boring sports like that ? Popular to most people but will not working at all for me. I like something that not so really appeals most but still decent enough to be enjoyed. I'm usually against with those all mainstream. One unique cartoonish game can make me attracted rather than 100 boring games even with realistic HD graphic.
@MysticX I mean, since Wii U launched Nintendo has not been doing things very well regarding users and software. Some people claim that Nintendo is focusing on NX but, in all honesty, I don't think most people is understanding with that, not to mention the low expectations any developer would have with the new Nintendo hardware after these years.
@Anti-Matter
I don't get where you're going with this. I'm saying they're popular and Nintendo need them. If you don't like then, don't buy them. Simple.
Idc if you think EA sucks but the thing is, their games SELL
@electrolite77
Okay, i get it now. But still i wish if there is The Sims 4 for NX or a cute games like MySims on NX. At least that genre still exist from EA and can satisfied for a gamer like me, a Kiddie gamer. Sorry for keep replying your comments.
The only scenario where Nintendo wouldn't need any third party developer like some people here are ignorantly claiming is the scenario where Nintendo became a third party developer.
@TreonsRealm Silly comment.
Nintendo is not in a position to sit back and have 3rd parties come and woo them. Nintendo, through all fault of their own and only their own, is in a position to be taking on ANY and ALL 3rd party support, especially from the big wig western 3rd parties pumping out AAA titles.
This is 2016, not 1996.
@VanillaLake Yeah the salt being thrown in this thread is hilarious. It's amazing that any gamer can still find a way to justify defending Nintendo on this.
Nintendo is dead last for very clear reasons. Fall outs with companies like EA (and really any western 3rd party any more) is exactly why.
"We're going to wait and see if it is successful" is the worst approach ever. If everybody did that, no consoles would be sold anywhere because there would be no software. We all know how that turned out for the wii U when every developer besides Nintendo and indie ones jumped ship and then complained about poor sales.
We'll see if EA just shovels over bad ports again and complains that no one is buying them 2 years after they've released on other platforms.
@gatorboi352 The fact that these 3rd party developers don't spend any time on a good games for Wii U is why they shoot themselves in the foot. Nintendo can appease them all they want but they don't control the content or quality of the game. When the PC/PS version is 10 times better than the Wii U version, EA can't complain when it doesn't sell well because they chose to go the cheap route and throw out a bad game. It's silly when Nintendo gets blamed for all of this, because it's not their fault. The companies choose not to, not Nintendo. Which is why there are a bunch of great indie developers who make super great games for the Wii U, and these big 3rd party companies can't even make a halfway decent one.
I'm reading that the NX having not been anounced yet, they won't be announcing what they could have for it either. NX more of a portable console? That NVidia thing is just a rumour that everyone is quoting as fact. Nintendo hasn't shown anything yet so we don't know anything yet. And if they do end up using NVidia Tegra X1, which I highly doubt, then it would be no wonder that they wouldn't be getting support for it.
@samuelvictor Nope, no social media, I positively hate them and everything they stand for. Let me know when you read this and I will repost my email address and delete it shortly after, so be ready to catch it...
EA: Make 2 old ports without any extras or dlc and call it a night when they don't sell.
I wouldn't care if EA didn't support Nintendo if they would simply support PC.
They do support PC you say? They're games aren't on Steam, and therefore do not exist in the PC market.
@Anti-Matter
No worries mate. I just realised we were at cross purposes.
@MrGuinea
Yes it is Nintendo's fault. If they haven't made a machine attractive enough from a technical and business point of view that it gets support that's their fault. Their questionable relationships with third-parties go way back before Wii U. As do third-parties struggles to sell games on Nintendo platforms. If other platform holders can get third-party support Nintendo can, but they've failed to.
Like another commenter mentioned... I think Nintendo is courting the Japanese 3rd-party devs first. "Taking care of their own". They know that a majority of 3rd-party Western devs need convincing first...based on past history.
Seems (to me) like they're going to have a great RPG catalogue, as I think Square Enix is going to definitely be on board. We've got DQX, DQXI, and I personally think Nintendo has made some serious offers to get FF7 Remake to come to the console (why else would Cloud have been on Smash??). This will go hand-in-hand with a re-release of Smash "Complete Edition" on NX.
Seems like Ubisoft is doing their usual (Just Dance, maybe some Rabbids crap, etc.). We've got limited info on the rest of their franchises, I.e. Assassins, Watch Dogs, etc.
As far as EA is concerned... #*%@ 'em. They're obv going to play it safe and sit and wait. They don't really care about "the gamer" anymore, just sales. Even though Nintendo needs them to an extent, they don't have much of a choice. Just gotta prove 'em wrong and hope they come running back for sales.
A strong showing of 1st-party titles, a novel console/handheld idea, and reliable 3rd-party support will get the console started off just fine. Once the snowball gets rolling, I'm sure we'll see the douches that are EA show up late to the party.
Guys like Square Enix, Capcom, Konami, Sega, Namco, Atlus & Platinum are going to be the 3rd-party backbone (if there is any) for NX.
@samuelvictor Perhaps it's something that we should take care of in the weekend, or do you also have to work then?
I'm more than happy to give you an answer to any question you wish to ask me, but getting my contact information to you has been a bit of a struggle so far.
If you have notifications switched on, please leave them like that for at least a day, so my message has the time to land in your inbox, otherwise I'm continuously making and deleting messages for nothing.
@samuelvictor No problem, you're most welcome. I'll be awaiting your question...
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