Nintendo has a history of iterating and improving the various handheld consoles it has produced over the past few decades. The original monochrome Game Boy started this trend of gradual enhancement — with the Game Boy Pocket and Game Boy Light offering tangible advantages over the 1989 original — and since then we've seen revised Game Boy Advance consoles, updated DS hardware and, more recently, three versions of the 3DS platform. However, all of these iterations pale in comparison to the drastic changes seen in the "New" Nintendo 3DS — the fourth edition of Nintendo's current portable and an offering which comes in not one but two flavours.
We're focusing on the standard New 3DS in this review, with the "XL" variant offering the same core tech but lacking the interchangeable face plates. The standard version is certainly the one that seems to be garnering the most attention, thanks to the aforementioned customizable covers, its more pocket-friendly size and those iconic SNES-coloured face buttons. The good news is that this edition is just as appealing in the hand as it is in photos; it's a tad larger than the original model 3DS but has larger screens, making it a viable option if you've become accustomed to the gargantuan displays of the 3DS XL.
Keeping with the screens for a moment, it's remarkable how much improved the 3D effect is on this updated model. The original 3DS and 3DS XL were plagued with less-than-ideal viewing angles; even the slightest shift in posture could "break" the 3D effect, making it hard to discern on-screen activity and encouraging many players to switch if off entirely. While it's still possible to lose that all-important sweet spot, it requires a somewhat more drastic movement. During normal use, shifts in position or grip have no real impact on the 3D effect — an impressive achievement, given how finicky the auto-stereoscopic tech has been in the past.
It's also worth reiterating that the New 3DS screen strikes what we feel is the perfect balance between the tiny display of the first model to the larger XL screen. While the former was simply too small for comfort, the latter shows up the resolution shortcomings of Nintendo's portable. The happy middle ground of the standard New 3DS allows for a larger viewing area without the pixel-heavy nature of the XL's screen. We've not been able to test the New 3DS XL, but we can't see how it would shake our love of its smaller stable-mate. Indeed, after spending a few hours with the new console it was genuinely hard for us to go back to our trusty and long-serving 3DS XL.
The other truly obvious differences between this model and what has gone before are a combination of largely cosmetic and pleasingly functional adjustments. The second nub stick — the c-stick — is unquestionably the most significant enhancement when it comes to control options, negating the need for the unwieldy Circle Pad Pro attachment. It feels very stiff when you first touch it, not entirely dissimilar to the old-fashioned "nipple" mouse pointers that were used on laptop keyboards in the days before touch-pads became the norm. A tiny amount of pressure is all that is needed to work the stick, and despite its diminutive size it's very easy to use; the placement next to the face button cluster might appear awkward, but this allows you to switch between the two with minimal effort. There's no software out there to really accurately test the analogue sensitivity, but in titles such as Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate accuracy won't necessarily the priority — it's simply a means to shift the camera quickly.
The additional shoulder buttons — ZL and ZR — could prove to be just as handy, although they're arguably not as intuitive to use. They are located to the side of (rather than behind) the pre-existing shoulder buttons, pushed a good way inward on the upper edge of the console as to avoid accidental presses during play. This means that to use all four buttons simultaneously, you have to place the L and R buttons underneath your middle knuckle so that the tip of your fingers are resting on the ZL and ZR keys. Those with small hands might find this a struggle, but it should be remembered that many games won't require you to use all four keys at the same time, and toggling between them with a fingertip isn't much of a bind. Given that Nintendo has had the unenviable role of introducing two extra buttons into an eminently pocket-sized handheld, the end result is satisfactory.
Elsewhere on the unit, there are a host of placement changes which will take some getting used to when moving up from the previous 3DS XL model. The volume control is now located on the upper screen, directly opposite the 3D slider, while the stylus dock is on the bottom edge of the device — joined by the game card slot, which has moved from its traditional position on the top edge. This area of the console is quite crowded, as it also includes the headphone socket and power button. Moving this key button to the bottom edge could be something of a mixed blessing; even when the unit is totally switched off and closed, pressing the power button brings it to life. However, when the console is on and closed, the power button doesn't switch it off — so while you don't have to worry about the machine accidentally being powered-down when it's in your bag and you're trying to get StreetPass hits, you could find it being turned on when you don't want it to be — and that could result in unwanted battery drain. Finally, the Start and Select buttons are set to the right of the touchscreen, and the 4GB Micro SD card can only be accessed by removing the backplate with a screwdriver. The shift from SD to Micro SD means you may have to shell out for another card if you've got loads of downloads to carry over, but they're pretty cheap these days.
One of the big advantages the standard New 3DS has over its larger sibling — aside from those awesome SNES-coloured face buttons, of course — is the ability to swap out the front and back plates for more colourful alternatives. This process involves using a small screwdriver (not included) to loosen two screws on the rear plate and isn't quite as quick and speedy as we'd like, but it is sure to become one of the defining features of the system and one of the main reasons people will pick this model over the larger New 3DS XL. The plates are available in a wide range of designs and are sure to become a modest revenue stream for Nintendo; we're already planning which plates we're going to buy and could find ourselves in a situation where our New 3DS has a different "outfit" for each day of the week.
Moving away from the obvious cosmetic improvements, under the hood the New 3DS is sporting a faster processor which isn't really apparent when running standard 3DS games (titles which will make use of the additional grunt are incoming, with one of the first being a 3DS port of Xenoblade Chronicles) but noticeably speeds up other elements of the console considerably. Web browsing is much faster, as is moving around the user interface — pressing the Home button no longer results in a pregnant pause, but an instant response. However, perhaps the most welcome upgrade is download speed; on the older systems grabbing a large game from the 3DS eShop usually meant having to put your system into sleep mode and coming back some while later, but the New 3DS increases the pace massively. Anything smaller than a retail download will be playable within minutes, while the bigger file sizes don't take anywhere near as long to find their way to your console's memory as they did previously.
There's also support for Nintendo's forthcoming amiibo interactive toys thanks to an NFC chip secreted beneath the touchscreen. Like the analogue nub, this isn't something we were able to truly test during the review period, but given our experience of NFC on smartphones and with home console titles like Skylanders and Disney Infinity, it shouldn't be anything less than straightforward. Aside from Nintendo's own efforts, we hope that third-party developers will find ways of harnessing this unique feature in future releases. In terms of battery life, we've not had the console long enough to form a definitive conclusion, but Nintendo is quoting between 3.5 and 6 hours for this model, which is more than the original 3DS offered. We'd guess that titles like Xenoblade Chronicles will drain the battery faster than standard 3DS games, but naturally we can't test this hypothesis until such games actually hit the market.
It's an impressive showing from the latest member of the 3DS family, but there are the usual Nintendo niggles to contend with here. There's no power supply included with the Japanese version, but thankfully Nintendo has kept the plug consistent across all of the 3DS units, meaning that it shouldn't be too hard to track one down in your house if you've owned a system previously. We also have some minor issues with the system's construction; while the matte-effect casing is preferable to the glossy plastic of the past, it still feels a little on the cheap side, especially when compared to Sony's lovingly-assembled PS Vita. Of course, the use of chunky plastic is intentional on Nintendo's part — this is a console which has been designed to withstand serious punishment rather than make tech fanatics feel envious. Even so, we think it's high time Nintendo embraced the premium end of the spectrum and made its products physically desirable to a wider audience, rather than just appealing to existing fans — those legendary SNES buttons are intended to entice a very specific sector of the market, after all.
However, such complaints are moot when you look at the bigger picture — this is one of the most convincing hardware updates Nintendo has undertaken, and is without a shadow of a doubt the definitive iteration of the 3DS hardware — which is a good thing, as it is also likely to be the last before the Kyoto giant moves onto its next portable system. What shape that will ultimately take is anyone's guess at present, but in the meantime the 3DS has been given one final and wholly convincing hurrah which should ensure that it performs well and remains commercially relevant throughout 2015 and beyond.
The New 3DS and New 3DS LL are currently available in Japan. The system launches in Australia in November. A wider western launch is expected in 2015, but solid dates have yet to be revealed.
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once hit my market... will buy it.. XL
Will be buying the New 3DS XL.
I'll wait for some cool re-designs though.
Out of curiosity does the Left Shoulder button have a picture on it, I find it interesting that the right has a camera.
I'm on the fence... Why Nintendo had to make both so desirable? Each one for their own reasons! Right now I want the smaller one but if the Super Smash Bros (Metalic Red) edition of the XL model comes over to America then I'm sold!
Doesn't come with a charger? Wat.
That'll confuse at least a large chunk of newcomers who didn't have a 3DS.
Best to start preparing for the "My New 3ds didn't come with a charger HELP" threads. Because they're coming.
@Prof_Clayton Not that big of an issue, because 3DS XLs in Europe don't come with a charger either. Only North America includes one.
Nice first look. Can you test (preferably with good headpohones) if the headphone port is any better than on the XL? (In terms of volume and noise)
And are the downloads faster just because of the better CPU or is this thing actually supporting 802.11n?
@manu0 There is no N support for the New 3DS
Well, the Nintendo's handhelds are evidently evolving, slowly but surely, albeit in small baby steps. Adding one to a few tiny little features each step of the way.
Are the buttons clicky like they are now or squishy?
My biggest question still not answered... and I've been searching all over the web for it since it's Japanese release... are the speakers better than the XL's?!
I love mine, except it deleted my save data when I did the system transfer
The lack of the faceplate support on the XL model drives me nuts. I have no intention on buying either of these until I can have a big screen AND swapable faceplates.
Not a huge fan of small screens of any sort. Regardless of whatever justification someone has (Doesn't fit in your pocket, pixelation, blahblah) bigger screens are universally better. If they weren't people wouldn't pay 8 dollars a pop to go see a movie in the theater.
@Warruz The orignal XL has that camera icon on both R and L buttons.
I wonder if this is a response to get away from the royalties Nintendo is paying on the original 3DS or is this an upgrade to allow the 3DS to continue selling until they unify the handheld and console into one basic option for both?
I noted you mentioned it does not come with a power supply, but does it come with the plastic charging doc? If it's bigger then my standard 3DS then it won't fit in my current dock.
Is there a cradle dock for this one or will I have to wait for club Nintendo to release them separately like I did with my xl?
While the broader viewing angles do sound great, I'm still just gonna wait another year and get the next proper upgrade.
Still waiting for my order status at Nin-nin game to change from 'Payment Received' to 'Shipped' for my Metallic Black LL...
Will be buying the new 3ds xl.
Is Miiverse faster on it?
Will get one some time next year probably.
'There's no software out there to really accurately test the analogue sensitivity, but in titles such as Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate accuracy won't necessarily the priority'
So... the new circle pad doesn't work with games that support the Circle Pad Pro? Hm.
At first I was a tiny tinny bit skeptical as to whether I should get one, but my oh my I need one now! Even if it's not mine.
EDIT: On second thought, I could wait for the new Nintendo handheld. I could appreciate this device in my family, either way.
@Oaf7724 I don't think it comes with the dock. They already announced charging dock accessories, and I think you have to purchase them separately. It is nothing like the previous docks for 3DS/3DS XL as these appear to fit the systems vertically. So I doubt your old one will work.
http://images.eurogamer.net/2014/usgamer/New-3DS-Screenshot-08.jpg
even though i got my 3DS on launch day in 2011 i will definetly not buy a "new 3DS". instead i will wait for the next nintendo handheld which will probably be announced in 2016 and come out in 2017.
i hope that one will include all the things this "new 3DS" has. but with a proper second analog nub
@Ralek85 I doubt the next generation for handhelds will be released next year.
I'm so ready for this, I wish it was out in North America already!! I'm not a patient guy, lol
I said I was going to buy the Regular NN3DS for my kid and a limited edition XL for me. But seeing the NN3DS is in between the old 3Ds and the XL in terms of size, I think I'll get the 2 NN3DS models instead.
It's 2014, Nintendo. Why do you still have different launch dates for hardware in different markets? And region-locking, for crying out loud? Sigh
Them buttons especially the L and r better darn last in this one because my L button is half-reliable at best and my 3ds is bit by bit going to the gaming store in the sky.
Heh, nice that the screens are much bigger and better this time 'round. Espically if (if I'm hearing this right) you get the original model.
@Shadokiller97 Ah I see. Thanks
Come on NoA, I want my New 2DS.
Getting the 3DS, not the XL. I plan on keeping my XL anyways. I always wanted to customize my 3DS.
Wait, we have to use a screwdriver to get the SD card in and out? T.T
Well, as much as I want the New 3DS, I can wait 'till next summer when it's bound to have been released. Probably not going to miss out on more than a few exclusives.
Now that my experiment of duct-taping a PSX to a PS3 has failed, my money is going to a legit PS4 within the next 6 months.
XL all the way bigger the screen the better. Such a pity the new 3DS xl does not have the face plates as well.
Nintendo lives by the credo: 'software sells hardware'.
So what have they got up their sleeves apart from Xenoblade? More Wii/Gamecube/N64 games? Ports of 3rd party Vita games? Or something else?
Convince me with games and I'll get one.
@RennanNT You are right, never noticed that before
Doesn't these support HTML5 Video via the browser?
unless they come out with a Mario Galaxy 3 type system seller this will not do well. People already own some type of 3ds and aren't going to shell out $250 for the small differences found. An amazing game like X is too obscure to be a system seller. They will need a Mario exclusive to the system or else this will not have the sales they expect. There has to be a game(s) that appeal to the masses that cannot be played on regular 3ds. It has to prove it too. Like it has to push the New 3ds processing power so it's obvious why you would feel it's necessary to purchase one.
Personally, I sold my 3DSXL as soon as this was revealed because I am one of those that wants and enjoys the newest gaming device from Nintendo but I and others like me won't be enough. They need the casuals en masse to make the jump or to entice brand new 3ds owners to come in. I wish they'd announce they will come out for xmas in US but if not that's another lost opportunity. Being a Nintendo shareholder myself they aren't being run very well right now.
My import MH4G LL will be delivered tomorrow. Can't wait!
My XL is only 2 years old so before i rush out and get one of these i want to see more of the 3DS's future line up, apart from a few localisations and ports (FF,MH4G, YW1&2, Xeno,Tales R etc) and Project Steam there are no 3DS games coming in 2015 that we know about. Even the Wii U has more new games announced for 2015 then the 3DS, which is pretty grim in itself.
I'll wait and see what Nintendo has planned for the 3DS games wise before i make my decision.
@Gerbwmu Oh I'm certain escaping court-ordered royalties has been a priority in redesigns since they were imposed.
The only thing that bothers me about the New 3DS is that you're forced to use a Micro SD Card instead of a regular one.
I'll never understand why Nintendo announced a N3DS and then all of the limited edition 3DS XL's that have come out this fall. This article has actually got me interested in buying the regular sized version of the new console. If the screens are in fact, a little larger, I like the idea of buying those plates. I want the white N3DS with the Mario plate. When do you guys think it will be released? I'm predicting late spring/early summer.
Is it still a 300 game/app limit on downloads? Is the max micro SD card still 32GB or does it go up? Is game/data transfer from 3DS to New 3DS easy? Does Streetpass still only do 12 titles at a time or is it more?
Hope you do a QNA soon.
I guess we will be waiting to see if anything goes bad, hopefully it shouldn't, I would be interested in a XL version.
Looks nice and all but I'll say it again: I'll wait for 4DS, the next generation Nintendo handheld system Playing it is just like real life, you could actually get hurt.
So does it support 5 GHz wifi or not? Regardless of the reason I'm up for the faster downloads.
It's so beautiful! I'm going to have a fangasm!!!
I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on the New 3DS XL. It may be the last Nintendo handheld I buy for awhile though.
Does anyone know how good the speakers on this model are? Is it the same as the XL, or better like the original 3DS?
The only thing that keeps me on the fence regarding buying the n3ds is the dimension between time and wallets, monster hunter 4 and the loads of wii u games I wanna play.
First world problems alright.
I'm drooling. I really am.
I accidently dropped my 3DS yesterday and a crack formed on the outer shell, maybe this is a sign from the gods that I need a to get the New 3DS...
I accidently dropped my 3DS yesterday and a crack formed on the outer shell, maybe this is a sign from the gods that I need a to get the New 3DS...
The new 3DS is a beaut, with xenoblade cronicles it's definitely worth checking out. I am thinking of getting the small verson because of the customization. The glossy XL will just get them prints and will be hell to keep clean.
I have Xenoblade Chronicles for my Wii…but im eager to play it on the new 3ds…plus all the upgrades makes this a real no brainer for me but the real question is what special edition should i get? Or wait for?
If my wallet let's me, I will buy one when it's in NA
Could you post some comparison shots with this vs. the original, smaller 3DS instead of just the XL? I'm still rocking the original teal 3DS and am concerned over any size increases when moving to this model as I've always liked the compact size of the 3DS/DS Lite which were basically the same small size.
Also, how is the comfort of holding the new system in your hands, especially if you were to rest the bottom of the system on your two pinky fingers, making it easier to press, and hold, L or R such as in Mario Kart? I find that I always grip my 3DS so that my two pinky fingers are resting under the bottom, propping up the device slightly. I fear that the new power button and cart slot will make this less comfortable :-
@Luffymcduck
I'm with you-I'll wait for the new Nintendo handheld when it comes out in 2016 or 2017. I have a basic 3DS and it's in great condition, and I have no reason to upgrade. This New 3DS does look impressive. My only complaint would be needing a screwdriver to change the micro SD card... and my one complement would be how they've fixed the 3D effect. I want to see how it works in action.
@Prof_Clayton Japanese models never come with a charger. NA models always do. Don't know about EU
I hope NA gets a black model this time around.
The eternal struggle: white or black?
"*while the former was simply too small for comfort, the latter shows up the resolution shortcomings of Nintendo's portable. The happy middle ground of the standard New 3DS allows for a larger viewing area without the pixel-heavy nature of the XL's screen. *"
Exact reason why I'm going buy the New 3DS and not the XL version. I have the regular 3DS and always wanted a larger screen. But the XL is just way to big to fit in my jacket and the screen's ppi is just awful. Nintendo you have my money.
@AVahne Personally I'm going for white as it will be easier to match the faceplates. Try matching blue and black....ugh.
I do think it's a bit of a cynical update in response to struggling sales, but it's definitely an upgrade in every area, and it's probably going to sell very well as a high percentage of current owners buy again. I do wish they'd moved the headphone jack to the top though, as it always seems to get in the way where it is now, for me anyway. I'm not planning an upgrade anytime soon, but will be tempted if there's any good deals about, which was happening a lot with the 3DS XL for the first 6-12 months of it's life. I managed to pick up the white bundle with Mario Kart 7 and Mario 3D Land included for £135.
So is the c-stick not compatible with older titles like Resi Revalations? That would be disspointing. Otherwise I'd love to know how it works for those.
Aside from that I'm not convinced anyone can refer to their XL as 'long-serving'.
Was gonna get the XL, but now I think I'ma get the normal one. I like the colored buttons and color and faceplates
There is one thing I've been wondering about with regards to the NEW SPEED(!).
Will games that struggle with maintaining a stable framerate on the old speed 3DS fare better on the New 3DS?
I'm thinking specifically of Metal Gear Solid 3.
It runs okay but the framerate often takes heavy dips into slow-mo territory.
This is particulary noticable since the game is already locked to 20 frames per second.
Also!
Will the new "C-stick" work as a second analog stick with older games that supported the Circle Pad Pro?
EDIT:
Nevermind the C-stick question, already answered in other posts.
If I didn't already own a 3DS XL I would have bought one of these. The better 3D is nice. All I know is when Nintendo makes a true "New handheld" it's going to destroy this thing.
@chiptoon
The C-Stick will work with any game that supports the Circle Pad Pro. That includes Resident Evil, so no worries.
@AugustusOxy
What you have to remember about movie theatres is that the screen's resolution is 4 times the 1080p you can buy on Blu Ray. The 3DS XL still has the incredibly tiny 400x240 pixel screen that looks terrible even at the size of the regular 3DS. Not everyone's bothered about this, but compared to my 1080p laptop, or my 840x480 phone (low resolution, but for the size it's still eons better than the 3DS), the 3DS screen just looks awful. Not saying big screens are bad, but when you take the same resolution and blow it up way bigger, you're not gaining anything from it.
I NEED THIS.
I've had the original 3DS since 2011 and I've been going back and forth on whether or not I should upgrade to the XL. This seems like a much better option for me.
Early 2015 release please Reggie
I like my 3DS XL, never found the bigger screens any bother, and I traded it from a normal 3DS. The anti glare screen (though not loads better) got me really. I think I would upgrade to New 3DS for sure
DROOOOOL.
I'll probably end up getting this...I've already updated from an original to an XL, but my gosh, this thing sounds amazing.
And I'd get the XL. Faceplates? I'll take bigger screens ANY day. I'm honestly not sure why so many people want the faceplates over the bigger screens. Nothing can shake my love of those huge screens. I am a little irked by the absence of the SNES style buttons on the XL though.
Great revw. Would like you or someone else on the site to revw the New 3DS XL too please. Preferably when Xenoblade comes out
I could care less about how pretty it is and long as its durable since I've broken both my DS and 3DS from drops which happened to hit just the right unfortunate spot.
Is it still backwards compatible?
I'll probably wait on buying this until there are at least 10 games I want that are unique to the new model.
I need this new shiny! I will probably wait a bit and see how things pan out and how Nintendo uses this new system power with future releases. Im also still hoping Dragon Quest X gets a port.
@Nintendofan83 For NA I'm expecting March next to MH 4 U.
I would like to know if the 300 app/game limit has changed as well. I wonder who can filter this info to us?
The best is yet to come...
Yeah, best to wait for the expected New 3DS XL version in a year or two.
Excellent.
I shall have 3.
Can you turn the Near Field Communication (NFC) on and off?
@Damo
Have you tested the transfer process yet? I wouldn't want to lose all my streetpass data.....ahhh There's a comment somewhere about it having failed.
Still can't decide between the "normal" and XL...like faceplates, like big screens...want both...is that deliberate?
As an aside, how much English is usually around in Japan? Why have they used the word "new" instead of whatever it is in Japanese? Is that common practice?
I wonder how the speakers/audio are for the N3DS XL. No preview ever mentions the audio.
Will grab the XL. wish it was slightly larger as the XL is still uncomfortable to hold after a while. I imagine the regular would be even worse.
@JJtheTexan The thing I find ironic is that more and more publishers are moving in that direction not the other way around.
Take Steam for example, they've been locking down more and more games recently. Also, being Canadian I am now getting exchange rates applied TWICE if I purchase a Steam wallet card due to exchange already being in effect on the store after their change to Canadian dollars and the fact the cards sold in stores are already at exchange prices.
My guess is this model is there to bridge the gap to Nintendos next system, which will be a portable/home console hybrid. The extra time the super 3ds (as I call it) allows should bridge the gap til both systems sunset.
Day one purchase.
@SuperMalleo
Thank you, it'd been a few years!
@ktribal I really couldn't tell any difference between this and the other models when it comes to sound quality.
@Sakura Yeah, they do use a lot of English in Japan. Just look at console names - Famicom (Family Computer), Mega Drive, Nintendo Dual Screen (DS), Game Boy Advance...all of these systems had English names in Japan.
@NEW3DSXLISMINE Yes, you can. It's on by default.
I'd get the normal size. Portability is key. XL would be cool though but I like my customisation options.
Thanks @Damo . The only thing I noticed between normal 3DS and 3DS XL is the sound is slightly louder with smaller 3DS. Shame the sound couldn't be boosted a little on the new models . Would be sweet if it was slightly better.
Good review, thanks Nintendolife. I can't wait for it to be released over here in the west!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know I am upgrading to the New 3DS but I am not sure which model yet.
Dat Flipnote Frog on the home menu is the reason I want one of these. That's right, Flipnote Studio 3D is preinstalled on them. Hopefully this bodes well for the animation application coming West. There are clearly no more server issues if they're giving it to everyone with a New 3DS.
@Damo, considering you have Flipnote on your New 3DS, think we might see a review of the application? I think attention from the media could have a chance at reminding Nintendo that Western fans still want Flipnote Studio 3D. Fans are still writing and calling, but if NL reviewed FS3D, Nintendo might take the hint.
Help us, Nintendo Life. You're our only hope.
I just thought of this. The ZL and ZR triggers may be harder to reach on the XL version. I guess I'll need more than anything to feel both with my own hands and see which system fits me. I do have large hands, but so does Damo , I imagine. Now that I know about those triggers though, I'm a bit more lenient towards the regular size.
@Sforzando seconded
@HappyHappyist
Even if FS3D is for some reason a New 3DS exclusive, I wouldn't mind since it's finally being released. It wouldn't make a lick of sense but I'd take it.
Actually, it would make sense. What if FS3D hasn't come West, because Nintendo was hoping to encourage die-hard Flipnote fans to buy a second system? By making it a New 3DS exclusive, fans would still have to get another system!
What? I'm not crazy. -puts on tinfoil hat-
@Sforzando It's been out in Japan for a while now, so I'm not sure if when N3DS is released in the West it'll still be a default app or not. hopefully i'm wrong and it will be. hopefully...
Compared to the original system, how much larger are the screens? Like I know the XL is 90% larger.
I have the original 3DS and have been dying for that extra screen size, but if its a nice medium then I might get the smaller one for the faceplates. But It seems the xl has the more "premium" feel and i like the gamecube blue color.
OMG THE WHITE XL HAS LIKE EVERYGAME EVER RELEASED WHO'S IS THAT?
Hopefully there's no self-induced screen scratching. The original model sucked for having that.
@Hy8ogen But Black goes with everything right? :3
Zero interest in this.
@Diddy_kong Then why did you comment or read the article?
I'm glad to hear the non-XL model is still bigger in terms of screen size, and that the battery life is better than my original 3DS.
I'm not happy about having to buy a microSD card. I bought a 32 gig SD card for my 3DS so I wouldn't have to replace it.
I also thought it was odd you guys didn't point out the differences between playing Smash Bros on a 3DS vs a new 3DS. I mean the OG 3DS by everything I've read barely runs Smash. I would think there would be a noticeable difference with this system.
I am hoping we see a new 3DS Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate bundle here in the US. I'll be picking up the new system and that game at the same time next year.
@emiingham did you copy the content of your old sd card into the new one ? Because that where your save are. I did 2 transferts and I didn't lose any save.
i want it so i can play the games that need the added power
@Goginho I'd rather a slow and good transition, then a fast and forced one.
@Kitchner I'm not sure if anybody answered this already, but there would need to be an update on the software to the new systems in order for the frame rate to be corrected. If not then you'll be stuck with it unfortunately.
"Sadly, it’s not all praise for the new portable’s screens, with several people commenting that whites on the New 3DS and 3DS LL’s screens aren't the nicest colour."
“The whites are a kind of pee-yellow…”
“The New 3DS’ screens seem yellower than the old 3DS’.”
“Yup, Nintennyo [nyo means urine in Japanese] 3DS.”
White Comparison: (Left: 3DS, Right: New 3DS)
Source: http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/10/13/is-the-new-nintendo-3ds-worth-the-purchase-early-adopters-in-japan-share-their-thoughts/
@luckybreak I agree, I do want a larger screen for mine too however the XL is just too big so the new 3ds which is bigger but not as big as the XL runs right up my alley.
Ill surely get one XL when a zelda themed 3ds appears in NA, as i only get the portables like that. A faceplate is not enough for me though.
Damn Nintendo you really want my money don't you?How many times do i have to tell you,my wallet is crying blood right now.
Can't freaking wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love Nintendo handhelds, this will likely be the last handheld I get before I head off to college in 2016. With the library the 3DS has so far, I might just wait out for a few years before jumping on the Nintendo 4DS-Boy
Disappointed in the lack of discussion on how this works with Smash
Will get the XL. I've considered the small one many times, but the faceplates aren't a long-lasting incentive and I couldn't get used to the smaller screens again.
@babyguess I suspect it has something to do with the auto brightness changer (which always seemed like a stupid feature to me).
Sorry, I'm skipping. I've be waiting for the 4ds train.
I want my fully coloured SNES buttons on my XL.
@mjc0961
maybe read the article?
"However, when the console is on and closed, the power button doesn't switch it off — so while you don't have to worry about the machine accidentally being powered-down when it's in your bag and you're trying to get StreetPass hits"
goodbye, troll.
How is the circle pad in this model? Does it have that same grey rubber that'll eventually come off or does it break easily?
Although I will most definitely be upgrading my XL to a NEW, I'm still not sure which size to get. I never knew that the smaller N3DS has bigger screens than the old original model. That's cool! I can't believe I am slightly considering going with the smaller one because I've loved my XL. Although...am I the only one that doesn't really care for the face-plate changing stuff? I know it's optional but it's kind of a turn-off for me for some reason.
Anyway...it's a little off topic, but with the Wii U and now this new 3DS CPU power, SquareEnix no longer has any reason to hold off on a full-blown remake of Final Fantasy VI...Ammiright?
Meh, looks cool, but I don't want to fork out the extra cash. I just hope Nintendo only makes a few exclusives, because I only bought a 2ds after they were out for six months when they were on sale. I get that there are hardware things, but I really don't want to buy another console while I have a perfectly good one. I hope this will be like a deluxe 3ds rather than something to phase out the current version. Luckily, it does just seem to be a souped up version of the 3ds.
I won't get it unless Nintendo releases HL3 for New 3DS.
How comfortable is the C-Stick on your finger?
Getting a regular N3DS, unless a special Xenoblade N3DSXL happens.
The headphone jack is still on the bottom in the middle? Ugh major missed opportunity! Still sounds promising. I'll just have to wait and see if there are any worthwhile exclusive games for it.
@XCWarrior it runs smash fine although I've heard that it loads things better and faster on the new 3DS.
@brewsky The European consoles don't come with a charger?
What is the point of that?! Obviously you will need a charger for a 3DS so why are you all forced to buy them separately?!
@triforcepower73 Xenoblade Chronicles. Hundreds of hours of your life gone there.
me likey!!!! ☺
Are there still only three slots for wifi settings?
There's a couple of things I'd tweak, like moving the cartridge slot to the centre and the headphones and stylus slot off to the side instead for a bit more aesthetic balance in the design and removing the awkward screws that are bizarrely on one of the faceplates yet not necessary at all on the other along with a couple of other minor things, but I really want a New 3DS at this point. If only I could afford one and the cost of the games
Haven't upgraded since the original. This will be a nice change of pace.
Nintendo should sell themed screw-drivers just as the stylus.
@SuperMalleo Blending is so passé, the question is, will it bend?
@Fafnirchaos07
Thank you! Really.
I'd love to read more, do you have a link?
I've been wondering about this for some time and no review or preview I've seen has mentioned any gameplay related effects of the new cpu.
I found a forum thread yesterday where people who have teste the New 3DS with MGS3 report no difference in performance:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/997803-metal-gear-solid-snake-eater-3d/65794163
I'm not a fan of the name, I'm loving the features.
When money is available and the games are too, I'll get one.
my body=ready
Still 3 years is Still way too soon to start a new generation & because of that Nintendo is hurting themselves as a result.
Think of it the DS had 7 years till Nintendo released it's successor the 3DS.
Now with the 3DS, it's only been on the market for 3 years & now it's been replaced by it's successor.
I know a lot of people have been saying that it's not a Success only a 3DS revision.
Thing is a revision always have the same basic hardware, same basic processes yet a successor always been more powerful than the predecessor.
Look at the DSi for example, Basicly Nintendo added camra & game download functionally yet it's pretty obvious that it retains the same 67/33MHz Dual CPU chip yet the N3DS has faster proccessors than a 3DS.
Which shows the N3DS is a 3DS successor not a 3DS 4.1/4.2.
Woah! For the first time ever this article made me consider getting the normal edition over the XL. But i don't think i could resist the sheer beauty of the Metallic Blue LL model.
And as tempted as i am by the improvements of the new models i still might take my time and look at what exactly will be exclusive in the games. If there's nothing too amazing i could as well hold out for the announcement of the true next handheld generation.
Anyway, here's a few negatives i can see with the new models.
@Kawaiipikachu DSi had better CPU and RAM. Some games like Sonic Collection took advantage of them.
Not really sold on the SNES-coloured buttons. Other than that, this is the first time I feel compelled to upgrade to a newer iteration of a Nintendo handheld while owning an earlier model.
I'm really looking forward to get one. I'll be getting the XL model though. Have they mentioned anything about improved quality on the circle pad?
I think I'll still stick with the XL variant when they come over to the US. I don't really need any fancy plates.
Good review guys!
Really considering getting this model rather than the XL/LL model now.
Will you guys be doing a review of the new XL/LL 3DS by any chance?
@Damo
Cheers for the info. Loving Nintendo has also sparked an interest in Japanese culture for me. I know France much better and there they have laws to try to stop commerical entreprises using foreign (read - English) words. Ironically given the historical shut out of all things foreign in Japan, Japan actually seems much more open in this respect. BTW, the French efforts are largely ignored by the population so we still have "un brushing" for a cut and blow dry, "le people" for celebrities, "un walkman"...
There also should be an improvement in the quality of the camera (better lighting). Do you confirm this?
@marc_max Well a couple of things
1.) Nintendo the DSi does not have faster processors.
It's a common myth that been spead by media Misinformation.
The info supposedly from one bit Iwata said yet I found nothing that the proccessors specifically been mentioned as being boosted, upgraded or updated.
2.)Upon some google searching that Sonic Collections game is not a DSi enhanced at all, just a regulgr DS game.
@bofis http://www.vooks.net/gallery-a-quick-look-at-the-new-nintendo-3ds/
Does anyone know a website where I can import the Australian New 3DS to Europe?
Very well written article/review! I am super stoked to get my hand on one! Although the standard New 3DS looks epic, I am still set on the N3DS XL but time may change my mind.
Good review! I was already sold months ago when it was announced, and that's not about to change now. However, I wish you'd given a review on the XL model. I understand you were only given a small to play with, but I think I'll be buying the XL anyway.
Disappointed to read that the New XL doesn't have changeable faceplates. Seems like a strange omission.
@WaveWarlock maybe they have it in power saving mode?? Or the brightness is down? Notice the dude who took those pics was in the screen settings..
@3MonthBeef read my above comment.
@Kitchner Its basic software development, Software doesn't adapt to new hardware, it has to be programmed, if you want a run down on that well you can check out forums on any Programming language by typing it into google, or if you want to view specific developments like game engines you can check out this http://forum.unity3d.com/
@Fafnirchaos07
Well in that case I fail to see why a game would need a patch;
if you upgrade the components in your computer you don't have to patch your games for them to benefit from the increase in horsepower.
I kinda wish they would do a new 2DS. A model with all the shiny new features but without the 3D and the form factor of the 2DS. I prefer the design of the 2DS, it fits better in my hand then the design of the 3DS models.
I'm not sure I could ever go back to that square flip-top form of the 3DS models. I tried using my old 3DS a few weeks ago and it felt uncomfortable.
@Caryslan Gross, please no.
Anyway, the standard's interchangeable plates don't impress me, in fact they look pretty jarring and busy in design, and clash with the rest of the system. I don't get the appeal. I prefer the glossy finish of the XL. But I'll have to have them both in my hands at some point to see for myself which I would want.
@Kitchner True but computers are (for the most part) open sourced and you can alter the software to accommodate your hardware, also companies provide alterations for their software to work on multiple systems and system hardware. Nintendo's hardware is Not open sourced and you cannot program on their hardware unless you have a license to develop, and to get a license you need to have A: money, B: a development team, and C: approval from nintendo. Only companies like capcom and square can develop for it, Nintendo provides the SDK to work on the basic template which is the 3ds. If a new system is released, its up to the company(capcom/square) itself to take it upon themselves to provide an update on their software with the new template which is now the New 3ds, that's if they have the license to develop on said hardware.
In other words you need to have a patch or update in order to have the frame rate or changes on certain games fixed, and that's if the company wants to do it.
My biggest concern was whether or not it would be difficult to adjust to the smaller screen size, moving from my current XL to the new standard model. I'm glad NL addressed that in this preview, and if the transition really isn't that bad, I think I'm going to be picking up the standard version. I love the faceplate idea too much to pass on it.
@B3ND3R (Look at my profile pic; I'm a huge fan of the series)Already played it twice through. And yes, you're correct. 210 hours of my life gone.
Also I meant exclusive games. Not ported "exclusives."
Is the New 3DS still backwards compatible with DS software?
@Kawaiipikachu
1 & 2) No. I don't know what Iwata said, but some developers and hackers already confirmed these a long time ago. Months before the DSi announcement, developers already had access to a new SDK+documentation with new info about the new processor's speed and RAM. Even Wikipedia has the real specs: the processor works at DS's double speed, and RAM is 4 times bigger.
A game is DSi enhanced when a byte is setted in its ROM header. DSi enhanced means that it works in what developers call 'native mode' so it has access to all extra DSi features (including RAM and CPU).
Sonic Collection is confirmed as a DSi enhanced by checking its ROM header. Play it on a DSi/3DS and you'll see that most slowdowns are gone
I don't know how did you search. But the info you found is totally wrong. Everything I found are people talking about a noticeable difference between the game played on a DS vs. DSi/3DS.
I like that the 3d is easier to work with and it's faster but all that trouble and no speaker and camera upgrade? I love my xl so it's got to have better cameras or no sale for my usage. Looks great though, very tempting. (If I also hadn't just spent a fortune on a dang phone this would be an easier buy, and it's harder to skimp on your phone since... it's your phone - games or not).
I love the more odd novelty tech like AR and the 3D cameras so I'm likely an anomaly consumer, they made nice design choices here.
Hmm, oddly enough this made me decide to buy the XL model... I think I'll wait for a hardware demo at a store before I buy, though.
May I ask what the maximum sized memory card the New 3DS will take?
Am I the only one who is psyched for speedier home screen performance? Although my launch 3DS runs Smash just fine once it's loaded, it takes an eternity to load. Likewise, when closing Smash, the whole system has to reboot and it takes a while to load up all my games. Plus Miiverse, browser, and other features are all much slower at this point than just using my phone. Zippier performance would make the whole system feel more fun to use.
Gonna stick with the regular sized one, if its still bigger then my launch day 3ds im content. I like the size of it i just want bigger screen which the new one seems to offer. Shame to see i need to buy a new memory card though since i own a 32GB right now, id need to buy a new one bu in sd format. Ah well, can't wait to finally move over my ambassador 3ds to a new device.
@Fafnirchaos07
Thank you for taking the time to answer so thoroughly.
-I was afraid you might think I was challenging your statement.
Okay, so given that the 3DS is a "locked" system, an improved cpu would actually not benefit the software without a patch.
Well. Let's hope Konami want to patch it.
-off topic: and give us MGS1 and 2 as well!
I like the size of my XL though, plus its the limited Pokemon XY one...
I may get the XL version, but so far the exclusives to this console don't sway me...
@Kitchner it's all good, and yes you got it.
@triforcepower73 Hey, Xenoblade in your pocket is worth getting the system for haha.
If they had like Streetpass features for it where you could exchange gems and weapons and armor that would be pretty cool.
@marc_max
I do know what Wikipedia says yet it's wrong.
Looking at the sources only show's ether a.) inconclusive or b.) unreliable.
plus the DSi only has double RAM as the DS has 8MB itself
As for that Sonic Collection one thing that's been proves it not a DSi enhanced game, No region locking.
In theory an American DSi enhanced game should not run on a PAL DSi, yet there are some people manage to play it on a PAL DSi
Which means those people that see an improvement in performance on a DSi system are really seeing a placebo effect.
@Kawaiipikachu So all developers are wrong:
http://dsibrew.org/wiki/Hardware
[Matt Bozon (Wayforward): "Matt: I'm not a tech guy, but yes it appears that we can push our games further when they're exclusive to DSi."]
http://www.cubed3.com/news/12630/1/interview-wayforward-answers-your-questions-on-lit-wii.html:
http://www.engadget.com/products/nintendo/dsi/specs/
DSi has a better CPU (133mhz vs original 66mhz) and RAM (16MB vs original 4MB), only used in native mode.
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About Sonic Classic Collection... The game is DSi enhanced, it's confirmed by checking the ROM header or... checking this picture:
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mCM1Re0ZvrfTi-m-NCJNJUg.jpg
TWL means DSi game (Warning: there are bootlegs with the classic NTR id, they are pirate games that won't play in native mode).
The region lock is embeded in software, so the game checks the console region before run itself. In this case, Sonic Classic Collection won't play on japanese DSi, for example. But it may work in all regions that it was released (EU, US and AU). I haven't tested, but it should work.
Also take note that flashcards in a DSi are ran in compatibility mode, so all DSi enhanced games work at original DS speed and no DSi features. Maybe people saying that the game works the same in DSi are playing it with a flashcard, and that means they won't ever see the speed boost.
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So... Yes. DSi is more powerful than the original DS. Most DSiWare and a few retail carts make full advantage of new DSi power. Believe it
Aaaargh!!! I who bought a Zelda special edition (A link between worlds) 3DS XL about three months ago. I love it but why make a new better one?!?!? I will not buy it just yet.
Now I know to always wait before buying at least Nintendo hand-helds. Thought I had waited long enough with this one...
Aaaargh!!! I who bought a Zelda special edition (A link between worlds) 3DS XL about three months ago. I love it but why make a new better one?!?!? I will not buy it just yet.
Now I know to always wait before buying at least Nintendo hand-helds. Thought I had waited long enough with this one...
@3MonthBeef I don't know, that screen looks an awful lot like my 3DS does when it's in power save mode. Also, the "official" pics of the screen in this article don't look the slightest bit off-white to me. Considering all of that, I'm not convinced that the new screen has lousy whites.
At least I hope it doesn't. All the other new features aren't enough incentive for me to settle for an inferior screen, and honestly the current screens are already not that great. Going from playing a Vita back to 3DS the difference is striking. Maybe that's an unfair comparison, but please Nintendo, don't take a step back to an even cheaper screen.
Not sure how I feel about this, I like my XL but I love the small things about this new regular 3DS. My hands get a little cramped if using my XL without holding it against my chest while sitting, I can't imagine how this one would be. So it's quite a gamble for me if I don't go with XL version.
@Damo
Could you please tell us if it possible to turn the auto-brightness off? That's a "feature" that I would prefer to not use, and none of the reviews I've read have mentioned this yet. Thanks in advance--and thanks for sharing all of your impressions as well! I'll likely grab a New XL too once a limited edition model that I can't resist is released here in NA, but I now think I'll start with the standard New model.
Can anyone who has one comment on whether the sound from the headphone port is louder on the new models?
@raeldor Good question, I'd like to know that too.
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