Talking Point: Should We Be Expecting More From Remakes And Remasters?

I just want the game. For me the point of a remaster is access to the game on a modern system (especially if it was locked on a system I didn’t have or invest in the ecosystem) with a new lick of paint (and maybe a QOL change or two or it fixed old bugs). A remake is for me, a new game as it has QOL changes and depending on the company, a new take/visualization of the old game. Its existence is enough. And modern games now mostly just need to be ported/remastered as patches mean QOL/bug cleanup gets addressed much sooner now.

Most companies have artbooks or interviews if I wanna know the history of the game. But I don’t spend a ton of time in ingame museums. Most companies sell soundtracks as well. Code is often lost or the version of a game has changed so rerelease of an original or prototype comes with a risk that often isn’t worth it. There is usually a reason a company picks to remaster or remake rather than release a collection or in Nintendo’s case NSO version.

I think Metroid Prime Remastered did a perfect job with the concept art and everything. definitely think that game should be $60, but I do not think Luigi’s mansion 2 hd should be $60…outrageous price for everything included. Maybe if they put extra story content or something

I think it could be decided on a case by case basis.

Many of Nintendos older games are pretty much perfect as they are so a "fresh coat of paint" so to speak is sometimes all they need.

Take Mario 64, the DS version for example, they added in some extra stuff / levels but for me alot if it felt forced and didn't need to be there. (just my 2 cents worth).

Give me a choice between playing the N64 version or the DS and it's the original every time

I’m fine with the remasters the way they are. As for remakes, I would really want to see a reinvention of gameplay, a new way to play them, not just graphics; like how FFVIIR did.

DS and 3DS need some movement. Lot of lost franchises stuck in two screen limbo that could do with either ports, remasters or sequels.

It’s all about personal preference.
I don’t like to many remakes/remasters.
But I haven’t played LM2 so I’m looking forward to that one as a filler game.

The only thing for me would be more from the ground up remakes like Metroid Prime Remastered. Simply upscaling the resolution seems like they're just doing the bare minimum, although it is nice to be able to access them on the latest available console.

I'm with @Ryu_Niiyama just having access is enough...mostly. Although, a graphical upgrade is always nice.

I have a library of games going back to the SNES, and sometimes trying to play those older games hurts the eyes. My best, most recent example is Diablo 2. I played a ton of it back in the day, but for the last many years, I couldn't bring myself to suffer the dated graphics. The remaster made it "new" again.

Most of them at least should be cheaper! Because half of the work, ideas, development, concept and storyline etc. already has been done ! ..not willing to pay 60 whatevers for an up-res and a few bells and whistles ! Love Mario RPG, but not paying that price, same goes for TTYD and Luigis Mansion 2 ! Both originals still look great ! But was comfortable paying 35 for Metroid Prime !

@OctolingKing13 Exactly this. I agree.

Tbh what I would honestly like for Nintendo to do in the twilight years of the switch instead of Remakes/remasters would maybe have a couple small team of devs currently not working on the next gen switch games focus on creating lil bite sized games like Part time ufo. That game had so much charm and it reminded me of the dsi/ wii era of those tiny nintendo games that were basically indie games but from the big N there so charming and so fun and unique. Part time ufo is such a cool lil game I love it so much.

Thousand Year Door is a great choice since it is a fan favorite and not easily accessible.

Maybe Switch 2 will have more friendly GC like controls that will make it easier to have a GC NSO app.

Otherwise, I am hoping for a Chibi-Robo! remake. 😊

@OctolingKing13 The thing is Luigi's Mansion 2 HD is being developed by Nintendo while Metroid Prime Remastered was developed by a third party dev. That's why Metroid Prime Remastered is $40 while Luigi's Mansion 2 is $60. As long as Nintendo had a hand with the game it will cost first party price. Also the reason why Metroid Prime Remastered was not $60 was cause Iron Galaxy already covered $20 for the license fee so gamer's only need to pay $40 whereas first party titles like Luigi's Mansion 2 HD had no one covering license fee as no license was given thus that fee was added to the full price tag for the customer to pay.

Fire Emblem Gamecube and Wii and and Metroid Primes please and thank you before Switch

I fall into the category of: "Just give me the game."

I mean really, we haven't had a traditional Paper Mario with an original cast of characters for DECADES. People wanted it so bad, we got #RemasterThousandYearDoor trending on Twitter and Nintendo did exactly what we asked for. I don't need a lot of extra bells and whistles. The game is already as close to perfect as a game can get in my eyes, and while I would be happy to have new content, I also don't need or expect it. I'm just happy this game exists at all after so much time of it feeling like a pipe dream.

I truly could not care less for bonus features like high-resolution scans of concept art that double the amount of storage space a game is going to take up on my console if I buy it digitally. Street Fighter II, Sonic Origins, Mega Man Legacy Collection... just make those extras a separate DLC that can be downloaded for free, so if I don't want them, they don't have to waste precious hardware space.

And documentary videos? If I'm that interested in a game's development, I'd rather the publisher just upload a YouTube video of the footage. There's no reason to put it in the game itself, especially when that just takes up even more space.

I love additions like Bowser's Fury where you're getting a sizeable amount of meaningful gameplay content. But everything else is just "filler," to me. I don't need DVD behind-the-scenes bonus features in my games. Just... give me the game, lol.

Luigi's Mansion 2 feels overpriced considering the 3DS game was $20 cheaper and the remaster doesn't even look as pretty as LM3, which is already on Switch for $60. But a beautiful, ground-up remake of Thousand-Year Door, one of the best games of all time which already has a substantial amount of content, for $60? That's not a difficult value proposition at all--I'd much rather buy that than spend $40 on Sticker Star.

I just want Wind Waker on Switch…

Maybe some more 3DS games too (Link Between Worlds, Metroid Samus Returns, etc.)

It depends, some remake/remaster games are totally worth their value at $60 due to the fact that they are pretty long campaign-wise, Skyward Sword being one example. If the original game is a shorter experience, it would be nice to have it add additional content. One game that went above and beyond was Xenoblade Chronicles DE, which gave us an additional campaign, and the base game itself is already a massive experience. The QOL changes were phenomenal and the upgraded character models made the game totally worth picking up.

Short answer: if companies are going to charge $60 USD (or worse, $70 USD) for remakes and remasters? Yes.

Yes, we should expect more. The wheel doesn't necessarily need to be reinvented or anything, but it takes more than shiny new graphics to justify a purchase of old games that are easily accessible via other methods.

Really im happy just to have older games available to purchase but i do feel like things such as button remapping and screen options should be at least standard (and letting players disable features such as fast forward/rewind and other such things)

Remasters and remakes which go above and beyond are always welcome though (such as those nightdive remasters, the quake 2 one was especially amazing)

am mixed so far on what ive seen of ttyd, the game looks absolutely stunning but im curious to see if it really does run worse than the GC original as the trailer suggested since i feel things like performance and responsiveness are priority (its why its nice when you see remasters of psone and n64 games which improve the framerate)

as mentioned in other comments sections i felt the virtual console was a great idea that could have used some improvements going forward though hate that it was replaced with a service that doesn't allow players to buy/keep the games.

really i appreciate any attempt to preserve the games such as making them available to purchase on modern systems and also things like backwards compatibility (both physical and digital) allowing players libraries to still work on newer systems.

Here’s a better question, should we be expecting more than remakes and remasters? The way I see it for the entire games industry it’s remakes and remasters all the way down.

@SalvorHardin I like bringing back games that are otherwise not very accessible. Ones not on VC nor NSO. Ones trapped on older HW. Ones that sell for high prices.

Thousand Year Door on Switch is currently cheaper than used GC copies.

I think they should go back to the NES and SNES days for remakes. Look at Mario RPG. It's held up quiet well, and sold over 3 million on just 5 weeks.

A GameCube racing collection with Double Dash, Air Ride, and GX. That is all I ask.

Enough with the damn remakes and remasters.
It getting worse for every generation now...

The team working on those, could have made a brand new game instead.

if your doing a remaster or remake and pricing it at $60 it better include a lot of brand new content and improvements to the original game if not it should be $40 max

I love unlocking concept art, but design docs? I'm not going to read them, especially not in this context.

Prototypes and early builds? Nah. I don't want to play an unfinished, unpolished version of the game.

Timelines? No I'm not a producer.

Dev interviews? Sure why not, I probably wont bother with them but it seems the most interesting of all the options here.

Switching between old and new graphics? Honestly I think some games are held back by this. I guess it depends on the game but generally I'm not switching back to the older graphics.

Just a loving remake of the game is enough for me.

The Digital Eclispe timeline thing is very cool. But it makes more sense when you're just including emulations of the original versions. The Mario Vs. Donkey Kong isn't really exactly the same as the original (nor is any remake!!!) so the historical context wouldn't make a ton of sense.

«Should We Be Expecting More From Remakes And Remasters?»
Of course! However, game developers became lazier and their new remasters/remakes looks, sounds, and plays far from good. Look at the Tales of Symphonia and Metal Gear Solid remasters – no dual audio option support, 30FPS, no extra content(ToS only?)... That sucks. During the PS2 era, game developers/publishers treated remakes/remasters/compilations better than now(!). Various bonuses, extra (playable) characters, extra modes... The same thing with the various ports of arcade games (hello CAPCOM, SNK). But, well, let's get back to the main topic.
In remakes/remasters, I want to see these things:
Dual/multi audio option support;
All regional versions of the game(-s);
Developers/seiyûs/voice actors/actresses/writers/composers/artists/publishers commentaries;
All versions of the game being playable (if there are significant differences between them);
All soundtracks/songs/videos from the various regional versions of the game(-s);
All (promotional) arts/ads in the gallery.
That's all, probably...

The earlier first party remasters made at least a minimal effort to justify a double-dip. Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe and of course Mario Kart 8 Deluxe all had some form of extra content over the original versions. For older titles, a HD lick of paint is an attractive selling point, especially when it's from the ground up like Link's Awakening. I've generally been fine with Nintendo's approach to remasters, although for me the gold standard is something like the Street Fighter Collection where you got loads of museum pieces along with a good collection of games.

I think I'd rather just have standalone Digital Eclipse-style offerings for some tentpole releases in Nintendo's history. I'd prefer to see remakes add in interesting new playable content instead of the additions just being development history stuff shoved in somewhere. They wouldn't even need to lock that to the game, necessarily

@Steel76 «It getting worse for every generation now...»
Yeah. They are becoming more barebones and more lackluster...
@JohnnyC «although for me the gold standard is something like the Street Fighter Collection where you got loads of museum pieces along with a good collection of games.»
Haha! You're joking, right? CAPCOM now are lazy as hell! Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection features only straight ports of the original arcade versions! Final bosses in those versions are unplayable! However, they were playable on consoles! Why not to port console versions instead? Or, give the player a choice to switch between arcade and console versions!

I like Nintendo's approach to the remasters/remakes for Switch except the whole 3D All Stars type mess where it's delisted soon after launch and the whole Famicom Detective Club type mess where there's no physical version.

It feels like what's best for a remaster/remake depends on the game or the franchise so like NSMB would be best as a collection containing the DS, Wii and 3DS (all DLC included) entries. Naturally in that example, the Luigi gambling minigames in the DS game would have to disappear to keep the age rating reasonable but that's a better outcome than the DS game never coming to a current or future Nintendo platform.

As this year marks the 30th anniversary of DKC, I anticipate the possibility of a port or even a remake of DKCR.

I’m happy with varied levels of polish, but they need to look at fairer pricing. Paper Mario a rare game that is difficult to own legally, with a pretty hefty remaster it is I think fair enough to charge for. But Luigi’s Mansion 2 is a piss take charging £20 more than the original release.

Just the game tarted up a bit, with sensible adjustments to control schemes and gameplay if necessary. Obviously not against extras but the game itself remains the absolute priority.

@Vyacheslav333 I thought the games themselves were fine, but to be clear I meant it was particularly good in terms of bonus content. The Smash Bros games used to be good for that stuff, but unfortunately they chose to leave it out of Ultimate.

hope we get shadow drop for prime 2 and 3 after 1 was done so beautifully.

Switch 2….with 2 screens = 3DS remakes

@JohnnyC I understood. But, we need games themselves as well. There can be sweet bonuses like gallery, in-game jukebox, online... But, these bonuses will not make games themselves better. Online can, though... But this feature will be a miserable addition, imo.

Even going into the next generation, I wouldn't be surprised to see a heavy reliance on remasters and ports. Being able to rerelease the Wii U's library with minimal effort and minimal fuss from the gaming community was a massive boon for the Switch. Though obviously digging deeper into their library wouldn't be as easy as just copying and pasting Wii U games (which is why they should rerelease Xenoblade X). For a lot of GameCube, Wii, and 3DS games, and any N64 games, they'd either need to overhaul the visuals or throw them in a collection to match the value of a brand new game. As for tweaks and additions I'd really like to see, a soundtrack mode, additional save files, and the ability to switch back to the original visuals are all awesome QOL features. If they want to finally release those soundtracks separately, that'd be great too.

They can stick interviews online. A website is a lot more accessible than a game good grief.

@Steel76 Yeah 4 of the last 5 Mario RPGs are remakes for example

Superstar Saga Remake
Bowsers Inside Story Remake
Paper Mario Origami King
Super Mario RPG Remake
Paper Mario TTYD Remake

Hopefully they give it a rest going forward. I don't want to be endlessly
presented with games I've played 10, 20, 30 years ago in place of new games.

Remasters are totally fine throw in a couple of quality of life changes and I'll buy a game again if it's a favorite of mine and remakes as long as they feel or capture the original but offer it in a new way like links awakening or resident evil 4 remake then that's a remake done right

I’ve thought about this a lot and honestly, I just want ports.

When a new format of blue ray or whatever comes out, i don’t want the older movies I love to be recut or reshot to make them more like the current era. I want access to that movie, with maybe a visual buff that makes it closer to a theater experience.

If an older 70s movie moves too slowly for a modern audience I don’t want it to get a remaster with QoL upgrades to make it more palatable. I dont want older vfx upgraded. I want to experience the original piece of art that resonated so well with people at the time, even if I end up not liking it myself.

@Not_Soos You make so much sense, you should be illegal.

For me, the biggest issue I have with some remakes/remasters is when they literally do some things worse than the original. The goal of a remake should always be to improve on the original or at the very least keep the quality of the original on a technical level.

When you have games like the new Paper Mario TTYD remake have the frame rate cut in half? That's a non starter for me.The original ran at 60fps, that should have been a 100% requirement on the design document of the remake before development even started. Shame on them for disrespecting a legendary game like that.

Please remake Wario World, Nintendo.

Speaking of Digital Eclipse, the Switch Library will not be complete until it gets the The Disney Afternoon Collection.

I would love to see an Atari 50 like collection for Nintendo’s early games. 😊🤞

@Ryu_Niiyama well said. The only thing I’ll bother with in a game museum is photos. Concept art, promotional ads, etc. But even then, I won’t flip through them more than once. I never watch video interviews either. Like you said, if I wanted to see those things, I could probably find them elsewhere. But when it comes to a game? I just want to play it lol

Things like the Cowabunga collection including all sorts of historical docs makes sense.
A whole documentary kind of game museum like Atari 50 makes sense.
Behind the scenes, music, concept art, etc.. as collectibles makes sense (like in the Bayonetta games).
A brand new world a-la Bowser's Fury makes sense with 3D World.
The extra "dungeon" in Twilight Princess HD makes sense.

Bottom line is imo it's on a case by case basis, what is best suitable. But definitely give some extra's, even if it's just a trophee/challenges list.

I would like to see the very minimum of framerates at least equalling the originals, preferably improving on them and absolutely under no circumstances whatsoever, making them worse. It’s unacceptable.

I would also like to see more nes classic remix styled compilations.

@123akis
I feel like you and a lot of people commenting have forgotten that Sticker Star, Origami King and maybe Colour Splash all had in-game museums with concept art and stuff of the game.
So there is a chance they could do it again, even in TTYD's remake. Not sure if they'd make a new area, a museum, just for that but it could be the role of a new NPC.
Either way, I'm not fussed. I'm just saying it's possible.
When it comes to remakes, updates graphics and QOL improvements are the standard. Anything else is extra. But doubt anyone would object to free extra content. Having Luigi's side adventure playable would be incredible, even if it's not as long as the main game.
And if they remade Wind Waker again, I'd love to see them include those islands they didn't have time to implement the first time around. So yeah, extra content would be nice, but not exactly expected. Oh, but I love it when games have jukeboxes!
Those should be a standard going forward!

We can expect MK8DX Remaster as a Switch successor launch title. Unless it's backwards compatible, in which case I hope they won't crap the bed like Sony and their random paid upgrades for basically the same game, but slightly better looking and a lot more expensive.

I want to see more remakes for games form the PS1/PS2 gen, games like dark cloud, wild arms and chrono trigger and not games that are 10-15 years old. I think for Remasters Metroid Prime Remastered is the best example on how it should be done, For remakes it depends on the visual style but I think FF7 Remake has set the bar/expectations high.

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I'm fine with any and all of the above, as long as it is not a lazy, non-optimized heap of programming.

@batmanbud2 That is a beautiful idea.

I'm about the games. I think if the remake allows, then swapping ad hoc between old and new is amazing. Not a deal breaker, but if it's possible, then I have no end of admiration for the devs. As for the gumpf, again, it's nice to have, but I don't see the game as being incomplete for not having stuff available from a google search. Context is everything. Digital Eclipse are doing great work. I don't expect anyone to go to that much detail, but then again, releasing Karateka on it's own defo needs extra padding!

@Anachronism Wii U games were a bit of a special case though…people were generally happy to pay full price for those games (even at their most barebones like Tropical Freeze) because the Wii U sold so poorly so they were mostly new to the majority of Switch owners. There’s no way Nintendo can get away with porting Switch games over to the next console, especially if it’s backwards compatible (and doubly so if it isn’t).

I’m sure we’ll continue to get remakes/remasters from Nintendo but they’re not going to be able to coax along on pulling games from the previous console to bolster their next gen lineup again

@larryisaman No, of course not Switch games. Well, maybe Smash Ultimate. But I was mostly talking about the massive chunk of their library that's still trapped in standard definition.

Some new content

I wouldn't be against "more" content, but I don't know if this is what I'd want. Maybe something more akin to Mario V DK, where we got more worlds/modes? I certainly wouldn't be against an art gallery or the like though!

In terms of historical content? Nah, seems pointless.

What I want to see from remakes is more IN GAME content. New levels, better designed levels, new abilities, storyline improvements, etc. I want to see more FFVII-esque remakes. Remakes that feel like what the game would've been like if it was designed from the ground up in the present day instead of making it like it was in the original but with an HD coat of paint.

Just the game for me to be honest.
Sonic Mega Collection on GC was wonderful. The comics, video, artwork...that was all great! I spent a lot of time with that one, but it was 2002. Getting to see this stuff online was not exactly easy.

if a game is going to get remastered and charged a high price it must be of the highest quality. some of these so called remasters are lacking in such quality..

Just the game, along with the graphical updates and whatever QOL improvements etc. New gaming content would be nice too.
As for the other stuff, if I had interest in it, I would seek it through other mediums.

I need more from the remaster, not just a cold port. Metroid Prime is a good example. I need remade visuals that line up more closely with the current console. At the same time, I really appreciate games like Halo: Anniversary, Dragon Quest XI, NSO, etc., that give me the option to swap between multiple visual styles.

An integrated music player is a very important feature for remasters. Every Zelda remaster desperately needs a music player, being able to play all the best songs whenever you like.

Honestly, the Switch 2 should just have an independent music player for all first-party games that can operate simultaneously with software. And at any given moment you can press the Home button, access the music player, and play whatever Nintendo tunes you like while playing any software.

It's taken some time, but I've come to realize how great NSO really is. Being able to create and load self-contained save states on the fly, no matter what game you're playing, just feels so fluid. Another feature I've realized is really amazing is NSO's seamless frame-by-frame rewind. So many retro games need this, and at this point I prefer everything to be rereleased through NSO just for this feature alone. Any remaster/port sold separately now makes me miss NSO's rewind.

Either buy it or don't buy it, I think our expectations are meaningless unless we vote with our wallets. In other words, if they keep selling them, they'll keep making them.

I just wanted F-Zero X on the 3DS with expansion kit and online functionality 😥

I think this trend is a good thing actually. The Gamecube Paper Mario game is good and with Metroid Prime they did an excellent job on rehauling the graphics and for good value, which sure hasn't always been the case with money-grubbing Nintendo. Good effort for good value sure goes a long way in creating goodwill from the consumer side.

I really don't like this drip-feed remake/remaster thing. I'd much prefer if Nintendo just released their older catalog in some form that we could easily access, because there are still so many Nintendo-owned games that are not available in digital form. But they will never do that, for they know they can easily sell a remaster of a 20-years-old game for full price and have others justify it, because it hasn't been available for purchase ever since then.

Everyone's gonna feel different on this and you are valid for feeling as such, but for me as long as the games are preserved I do not care. If a game's foundations are good a remaster will typically be good too. I just want to experience it. If it looks as great as the TTYD remake, fantastic. If not, oh well it's just a port but I get to use my comfy PS5 controller now and hey there's some god rays and ray-tracing now.

I guess this is coming from someone who usually buys games after they go down in price, so I may not have the opinion one paying 60-70 doubloons would.

I think any good remake/remaster/re-whatever should offer players the option to play the original version of the game by default.

Depends on the case. In general, I just want old games to be available for purchase at an appropriate price. But if I already own those games, then I'm not going to buy them again, unless there are significant upgrades and additions to justify it! Also:

• Yes to bonuses like behind-the-scenes content, and especially playable prototypes!
• Some old games need a full remaster, whereas others need little to no enhancement: Paper Mario: TTYD looks and runs perfectly fine as-is, and all Nintendo had to do was to make a few tweaks and get it running in widescreen without glitches. Pikmin, on the other hand, suffers from blurry textures and a 30fps cap. Definitely a candidate for remastering. (Ironic, isn't it?)

You know what was a really good remake, IMO? Live-A-Live. Officially releasing in English for the first time justified it alone, but it got all the bells and whistles, looking and sounding fantastic, and some nice quality of life improvements while still playing mostly like the original. (For better and worse; I think it's good to preserve a sense of what the game was like originally, but there's definitely some very 90s RPG stuff that feels clunky or bad today. You get so used to not having random encounters - how modern! ahead of its time! - and then you get SO MANY on the back end.)
And then there's a whole totally new boss and ending that really completes and elevates it. I realize not every remake can nail that that hard, but I definitely support more RPG remakes adding more combat challenges!

No more remakes or remasters! Unless it was a game only released in Japan or something.

I don't expect or need anything more other than the game to play well and not contain bugs. As for bonus contents like art and interviews, perhaps in a collection of games. For a single game, just make it good, like with Metroid Prime Remastered.

@TheBoilerman speaking of blizzard I am not a fan of destroying access to games you own/license. Like they did with Warcraft. Bad enough the series as an RTS is dead with no replacement but when they make it so that you can’t access the original game you already paid for however long ago? That’s an insult to injury.

If you're going to remaster a game in a new, upgraded art style, then yes, it would be best to be able to switch between that and classic style.

If you're going to remake an old game, include the old game! Then I don't really care if the new game sucks, I'll buy it for the old game!

And yes, including a detailed history with care and love, I love that stuff. Give the classics their due.

Expecting remakes/follow-up for SW1:

• Kid Icarus 3DS
• Chibi-Robo
• Rhythm Heaven
• Yoshi title

Zelda remakes and F-Zero feel better positioned on SW2.

When I got the Aladdin,Lion king and jungle book collection. It had the games made for a variety of systems. You could let the games play themselves in tricky bits and take back over at anytime. Good news for haters of a really hard opening stage in lion king. It's on switch and is awesome people should try it.

Obviously we can expect more unfortunately. AI automation does a lot of the heavy lifting on the graphics, everything is already written and designed and scored. Yet they can still charge $60 like it's an original experience!

Video games are essentially modern art and literature, and should be treated just as seriously. Give us information, context, commentary, etc.

I think it really is a case by case scenario but for the most part I'm good with just having the game accessible and preserved on modern hardware.
The extra stuff in some of the anniversary collections or remakes or what have you, is cool but I would give it a skim and then get back to the game. After all thats why we're buying it right, the game?
The ideal Remake/Remaster for me is just bringing an old game to modern standards. The older the game the more work it needs I think unless its 2D and then just a fresh lick of paint is good. But GCN games for example (which is what Nintendo seem to be focusing on right now) they need to be brought to HD and have their controls revised for modern controllers, anything else that they do is just bonus and frankly unnecessary. A visual overhaul is lovely but not always required.
The other thing is that so many of these older games are such a pain to play at all now, especially GCN games, theyre so frickin' expensive and hard to get hold of and then you have to have an old outdated console plugged into a tv that still has all the right ports, its just such a faff so having them brought to digital HD consoles where they can and hopefully will be brought forward to the next and the next after that is just brilliant.

best recent examples of remasters/remakes:

• Metroid Prime
• Skyward Sword HD
• Windwaker and TP
• The Thousand Year Door looks perfect
• Mario Galaxy/Sunshine
• Pikmin 1+2
• Crash N Sane Trilogy
• Spyro Reignited
• Darksiders 1 and 2

etc etc

@Sciqueen
Wild take, completely disagree, there are so many great games that have been forgotten or lost to time due to outdated controls or obsolete hardware, I think its only fair to give those games a second chance and allow all the people that missed them the first time to experience them in the most convenient way possible
For example all the WiiU games that nobody played when they first came out because nobody had the hardware, that have thrived on the Switch because the games were great but were unfortunately not on a supported console. the same would apply to GCN games as everyone had an Xbox or a PS2 at the time.