It’s safe to say that, 146 million sales later, Nintendo’s risk of launching a dockable handheld console in 2017 has paid off handsomely. After all, Sony’s PS Vita was all but dead by that point, and despite the 3DS managing to reverse its fortunes after a swift price drop in its first year, many claimed that the rise of mobile gaming would spell the end of handheld consoles.
Yet the Switch proved the naysayers wrong and, if anything, ignited a renewed interest in handhelds the likes of which we haven’t seen in years. Mobile gaming has fallen by the wayside (somewhat - though Nintendo properties have also dipped their toes in the water here), and, we now have a bevvy of powerful handheld consoles to choose from, including the Steam Deck, the Asus ROG Ally X, the Lenovo Legion Go, and many more. Yet despite the growing competition, the Switch has comfortably maintained its position as the king of handheld gaming in 2024.
Looking ahead to the Switch’s eventual successor, however, there’s a chance that this may change. According to recent reports, it seems like both Sony and Microsoft will be launching native PlayStation and Xbox handhelds in the coming years, presenting what may well be the biggest threat to Nintendo’s current dominance within the handheld market. Windows and Android-based consoles certainly have their audience, but there’s a reason Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are referred to as ‘the big three’; their prominence within the gaming industry is simply unmatched.
But just how much of a threat could Sony and Microsoft really pose to Nintendo? Is the mere prospect of a new PlayStation or Xbox handheld enough to make President Shuntaro Furukawa quake in his boots, or is there more to the story?
If you ask us, there are several caveats to consider with this whole thing, and at least until we get some official details from Sony and Microsoft, we remain confident that Nintendo will maintain its current streak of success and rinse the competition in a potential new ‘handheld war’.
For starters, let’s consider what these new PlayStation and Xbox handhelds will reportedly be. Rather than dedicated consoles designed for bespoke, exclusive games like the Vita and the 3DS, they’re said to be following in the footsteps of the Switch and will allow users to play home console games on the go. Unlike the Switch, however, it seems unlikely that either device will, well, switch.
Unless Sony and Microsoft want to completely upend the way that their console ecosystems function, it’s probable that consumers will be faced with two options: either purchase a home console to play games on the big screen, or opt for a handheld device to play them on the go. A third option, of course, will be to splurge on both a home console and a handheld device; a choice that may cost users in excess of $1000.
With Nintendo, meanwhile, if the company is truly set on simply evolving the current Switch with a more powerful successor (which, according to the myriad leaks and rumours, it is), then we can probably expect a device that can be played both at home and on the go for around $400-500, give or take. Not exactly cheap, sure, but it’s a more acceptable option than having to pay for two separate devices to achieve the same functionality.
Let’s say Sony and Microsoft do come out with dockable handhelds, however: are they going to be as powerful or feature-rich as their dedicated home console brethren? Chances are they won’t be, and if not, will consumers really be satisfied with this? Nintendo has largely gotten away with the Switch’s lacklustre specs thanks to a remarkable cadence of excellent first-party games along with the simple fact that it’s really the only option available. Microsoft, meanwhile, has certainly benefited in the short-term from offering a weaker, more affordable machine with the Series S, but it’s becoming increasingly clear that this decision is having a detrimental long-term effect on third-party support.
Another thing to look at is how far off these devices supposedly are. Reports state that if Sony and Microsoft push ahead with their plans for new handhelds, they’re likely still several years away from launch. The obvious benefit to Nintendo here is that this gives the company some breathing space with the Switch 2, and unless Valve suddenly comes out with a more powerful Steam Deck in the near future, the Switch successor will be facing the exact same competition that the current Switch contends with today.
But what about the inevitable PS6 and next-gen Xbox? While Sony has kept schtum on a successor to the PS5 so far, Microsoft has already stated that its next console will represent the “largest technical leap you will have ever seen in a hardware generation”. That sounds lovely, we suppose, but what does it mean for the company's plans for a handheld device? If these things really are several years away, then it’s not out of the question to assume that their respective launches might clash with the next generation of home consoles.
If that’s the case, will the handhelds be able to play PS6 and next-gen Xbox games, or will consumers be lumped with weaker hardware that can only play current-gen titles? The most likely scenario is that next-gen games will be scalable enough to enable a release on handhelds, but again, this goes back to the issue of power; if users have the option to play a prettier, better-performing game on a home console, why would they opt for a weaker, handheld alternative?
And will developers, who are already exasperated with the Series S, be comfortable working with even more variables? It's true that many third-party games are already compromised so that they run adequately on the Nintendo Switch, but this is a deliberate choice so publishers can take advantage of the 146 million-strong install base. Forcing teams, however, to cater to home consoles and handheld devices with different specs sounds like a recipe for disaster when devs are already struggling to optimise their games across the Xbox Series X and S.
The last and perhaps most important thing to consider is just how much of a stronghold Nintendo has in the industry with its first-party catalogue. The company hasn’t only sold a boatload of Switch consoles over the last seven years; it’s also seen a remarkable uptick in software sales, with its biggest franchises selling tens of millions of copies throughout the course of the Switch’s lifespan. The Switch 2 will inevitably benefit from this with new entries in the Mario Kart franchise, Animal Crossing, Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, and yes, despite some of the backlash it's received in recent years, Pokémon. It’s going to take something truly special to disrupt Nintendo’s current momentum.
So yes, Nintendo is sure to face some stiffer opposition in the future if Sony and Microsoft follow through with their loose plans to bring new handheld devices to market. But we’re not even remotely worried just yet. Anticipation for the Switch’s successor suggests that the upcoming console is going to enjoy a healthy launch, and if Nintendo maintains the same level of support that it’s been provided to the current Switch, then the Switch 2 will be cruising into the sunset long before a new PlayStation or Xbox handheld makes it onto store shelves.
What are you thoughts on the supposed upcoming 'handheld war'? Will Nintendo have it easy with the Switch 2, or will Sony and Microsoft provide some fresh competition in the years ahead? Be sure to vote in the above polls and a leave a comment with your opinion down below.
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Sony? Maybe.
Microsoft? That's hilarious.
The Nintendo advantage will be in how the system is priced.
Sony's handheld will be 400 bucks and won't be justifiable.
Microsoft has a chance to do something with Gamepass. Maybe a Series-S quality handheld that comes with a Gamepass sub for 300 bucks. That's attractive.
Microsoft can't stay committed to anything unless it's a huge success especially for hardware. They only real reason they still have hardware in the console space is that they need to survive until all their games are ready to be cross platform. Once that is done, they will jump ship.
Sony maybe but if their VR headset is anything to go by, they can't juggle another piece of hardware.
Pls don't be cloud gaming handheld only Microsoft
"Absolutely not" is my answer
Sony's a maybe. The only way I can see it working with Microsoft is if they don't even really make it an Xbox thing and sell it more around Windows. The ease of accessibility of that is the only real selling point the thing would have.
The jaded PS Vita fan in me says no.
Microsoft is barely doing anything significant to sell Xboxs. Sony has proven time and time again that they won't priorize anything aside from their current home console.
And honestly, I feel like this gen has proven that none of the console manufacturers can juggle more than one system.
I don't think Sony/Xbox have any real shot at denting Nintendo's dominance in the handheld space. For Nintendo, the Switch is their one focus, there's no divide between a console and a handheld, their console is a handheld. If Sony tries to make a PSP/Vita style system it's going to be a separate thing. There's no shot at it playing PS5 Pro/PS6 games, because that's just not possible. So now their resources are split between PS5/6 games and Vita2 games, as are developers. It won't work, it didn't work with the Vita.
Xbox could potentially make a Steam Deck-esque system that can play games on the level of an Xbox Series S, but it's going to be expensive and again divide developer focus having to support another platform that is underpowered compared to whatever Xbox's current console is at the time. Xbox already doesn't really have the software to sell consoles, so there's little chance that an underpowered system from them is going to sell on the merits of its games.
Meanwhile, Nintendo cranks out system-selling software constantly and has all of their focus and backing behind their one horse that the public is already in love with.
There's just no storming this castle.
As a side note. I loved the PS Vita. It was everything the PSP should have been and more. It had amazing hardware, great features, felt great in the hand, it was an amazing system, and Sony let it die on the vine. I have no faith whatsoever that Sony can do it.
@WhensDinner Plus, Nintendo focus on smaller style less expensive games is paying dividends. SONY/Microsoft expensive first party focus is starting to show its age and unsustainable.
The problem with these 2 making handhelds is that idk who they're making them for besides their diehard consumers.
The reports and rumors are saying that both of these are being made to play the existing Playstation/Xbox libraries, they aren't gonna be some kind of unique devices.
And I hate saying this cuz i'm tired of hearing it as a Nintendo fan myself but if you wanted that today, you'd literally just get a PC handheld. They get Playstation and Xbox games already because they both release their games on PC.
If somebody wanted a portable Xbox/Playstation experiences, the market is already completely saturated with options for that. I already have my prefered portable console in Nintendo and I buy Playstation consoles alongside it as well. I don't really need a portable Playstation.
Neither company is thinking ‘let’s make a handheld and then craft games that will work well on the system’. They’re thinking ‘this Gen has been really disappointing, let’s put out a handheld and then slap all the games designed for 4K TV’s from this Gen on it’.
Power, Battery Life, Memory, File Size, Sound, Text Size, Save Points, Internet Connectivity- they all have to considered when making games for a handheld console.
Nintendo always designs their games to work on the console, not the console to play a bunch of games from wherever.
Nope for several reasons:
Sony could. Xbox I really doubt.
I loved the PSP, would love to see Sony take another shot at it. Though that being said I’ve been far less enamoured with Sony’s output recently. It’s good stuff but I miss the variety they had when they made things like Ape Escape, Patapon, Loco Roco, Tearaway, Modnation etc. Games like that would be essential for me to consider it.
I'm not really sure how it will go in a modern setting. The only direct portable competition Nintendo's had in recent memory are the PSP and Vita. Both of them reached a bit beyond their grasp and struggled at the same task where the Switch succeeded; bringing the home console experience on the go. If Sony/Microsoft can put out something akin to a portable Series S, they might be able to scoop a decent bit of that market out from under Nintendo.
More competition is always good.
Anyway, I think for Xbox handheld it makes more sense to make it a handheld PC similar to Steam Deck or ROG Ally, running Windows (hopefully tweaked to work well with the controller inputs).
For Sony, I expect it to run same games as PS5 but with downgraded settings. Should be doable if it's still a few years down the line.
Maybe Sony since they have had a successful handheld before (PSP) even if that didn't last long. The PlayStation brand is also very strong.
Microsoft? If they are struggling to compete in dedication home consoles where they have been a major player for well over 20 years, they stand no chance with handhelds where they have 0 experience.
unlike sony gamers today prefer playing on tv or a monitor..xbox gamers prefer tv or monitor.
nintendo stopped trying to compete in real console hardware long time ago.. there best success has been in portable consoles..
@N00BiSH we could argue that buying a Lenovo Legion go with running Microsoft Store on it and Game pass, is already like having Microsoft portable with plenty of great 3rd party AAA games on the pass.
I would really go that way + Nintendo Switch 2 than any unsupported expensive handheld sony will create.
They may not have to: Switch has its niche while the Steam Deck shows how popular a more powerful non-Nintendo alternative can be. Sony already has experience with portables and Microsoft can leverage the resources to make a viable Deck competitor.
I still wish Nintendo was a third party dev for PC so I can keep gaming to just my PC and my Steam Deck, but what can you do. /shrug
@Anachronism PS Vita is such a great console, a technical marvel for the time. It could have easily been the predecessor of Switch in term of success, if Sony did not stop supporting it so early. It has still plenty of beautiful game on it that would be great on Switch too (i.e. The Vanillaware trio: Dragon Crown, Muramasa Rebirth, Odin Sphere)
Sadly, Sony has set a precedent that if something doesn't go well, they will drop it quickly. Also, they don't put as many resources into a project as needed unless it's their main console. At the moment, even their main home console isn't getting much from their in-house developers.
Everyone knows how to craft a handheld console. Hell, take any modern phone and put a telescopic controller on it and you have a handheld console. But the question is, where do you take it from there? Will it overheat? How long can the battery last? How many companies will develop quality games for it? I dislike Nintendo as much as the next guy, but one can't deny they are the kings of handheld consoles because they know how to craft and sell one.
@WhensDinner i totally agree with what you said about the PS Vita.
That made me lose any hope that Sony will truly support an handheld again.
I mean, I love my vita a lot as a portable perfect PS1 and a fantastic retro emulator. So I would love for them to do a new one with more power, but they don't have a chance in hell. Their chance was the Vita, when Nintendo was at their weakest following the 3DS launch, and Sony botched it so badly. Nintendo's stranglehold on the portable market has only grown since then.
If Microsoft does a version of the ROG Ally, I am in. As they are trying to go console agnostic anyway. Sony, I would wait until year 4 of whatever they make to see if they will continue supporting it. Sony has the same 3rd party issues on handheld that Nintendo had on console (not counting ported games or games that worked on psp/vita like ps1 games) so far though either would need a TV out for me to bite. I buy handhelds for the games. Not because I actually like them. Switch and arguably WiiU were the first handhelds in my life that I have enjoyed.
That being said both Sony and MS have pushed me back to Nintendo/PC next gen so this is likely a moot point for me.
Neither have a chance, their main player base wants Fifa and CoD
No way, simple as that.
As for the second question, I loved the Vita (never had the PSP) but a theoretical new PS handheld nowadays is just a strong maybe for me.
Microsoft? I rather use my hands to play with fire.
@N00BiSH I recently got the ROG Ally Z1 Extreme with Windows 11 on it. It's an incredible bit of kit and I've not touched my Switch for a while (I'll go back for sure as there's games to finish).
If Microsoft do a Surface type handheld at a good price which means you can play PC games then it could be onto a winner. They don't need to though as plenty of upcoming handhelds are using their OS and they'll get a cut anyway.
PS Vita only failed because of the proprietary SD Card that costed an arm and a leg.
Also, Sony jumped the ship before everyone else, which is insane.
Otherwise Vita was a solid handheld, very powerful at the time.
If Sony gets it right this time, they could indeed be a serious competitor.
Microsoft... nah...
I do not think they can compete to any serious level and I am not interested myself. Sony might be able to come up with something appealing, but not Switch beating. Microsoft, I cannot see it happening, as they can't resist giving the exclusives to everyone else!
I remember when Sony dropped the Vita in the west, and they were like "handhelds are for children, adults play on smartphones".
Will be interesting to see if Sony releases a new handheld and if they continue their tradition of dropping the ball after release, if they care to pick it back up.
New entry in the Mario Kart franchise? @Olliemar28 It'll be 2034 and Nintendo will still be releasing new DLC for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Ultimate Plus Extreme. Nintendo making Mario Kart 9 is the new version of the early '90s joke about when Capcom is going to make Street Fighter III.
It really depends on how they approach a handheld. If its on par or even close to the power of their home consoles and you can just now play portably, maybe, but unfortunately they've trained their audiences to expect power first and foremost so if they're not powerful handhelds I think they'll be DOA.
I can't really see it happening; you got Steam Deck for PS5/Xbox Series X high end stuff and Switch(2) for the rest. The "handheld ship" has sailed a long time ago for Sony and Microsoft never had one.
Mobile had a promising start but it could never get past being underpowered arcade-like games. As anything that required more than 2 inputs at the same time was infeasible for most games. Now today we see that the current top mobile games are the same as they’ve always been.
“we now have a bevvy of powerful handheld consoles to choose from”
You mean “bevy”, right? A “bevvy” is slang for an alcoholic beverage.
It'll be healthy to see them try. 😂
But this is topic for 15 years from now, and ONLY IF Nintendo makes a truckload of bad decisions starting today.
For me the best selling point of the Switch is simply that it can be whatever you want it to be.
I predominantly use mine as a home console but the fact it can be either a home console or a handheld is probably why it's done so well.
Obviously I can only speak for myself but if the Switch was a handheld only device I probably wouldn't have bought one
No chance, basically:
-People buy nintendo consoles for their exclusives, handheld/hybrid is a nice addition that made switch more popular
-if Sony tries to go with a console that could move ps5 game it will be REALLY expensive, which will affect sales. Checking development times of Sony if they try to do a lower version with its own games it will be dead on release
-there are already handheld consoles that can play pc games and game pass so a Microsoft handheld console is no really necessary
I wish any of these could work, I still use my vita and my psp, but...
honestly, they'll probably target 2 different demographic.
Nintendo will always target the family. Sony/Microsoft will most likely provide a more powerful hardware at a much higher cost, that target the hardcore gamer.
Kinda like how Nintendo compete with all PC handheld on the market currently. The switch sales did not take a hit, because of the high price difference and "use-case".
@arnoldlayne83 Yeah, by all accounts it seems like it was a great little piece of hardware. It's a shame Sony just sent it out to die like it did.
Competing with Nintendo? Not a chance. Sony and MS's handhelds will likely be more expensive than the Switch 2 and also(according to the same rumors that are reporting these handhelds existence) won't have their own exclusive games.
Can these handhelds be successful? Perhaps. I might be interested in them since I prefer portable gaming. However, after the Vita, I'm cautious about how Sony handles another portable.
What matters most is the games. There are only 4 games I could possibly be interested in that are not on Switch 1. And I'm pretty sure most of them will be ported to Switch 2.
I think both Sony and Microsoft should focus much more on software than hardware at the moment ... but that's just my opinion.
Really happy with my Switch and all my great games!
Yes.
Sony did well with the PSP but forgot to release any games for the Vita.
If Microsoft can make a handheld Series S that plays all your backwards compatible purchases that’s an instant buy for a lot of people. A handheld 360 is the dream.
Microsoft no, sony maybe. Only if they have physical games they can compete.
For Microsoft the only way they can join the race is by bringing Gamepass on these handhelds.
I don't trust Sony in their current state to support a handheld long term, and I can't see Microsoft making something that's not just a worse Steam deck.
Sony and Microsoft have a strong affinity for digital gaming. So knowing them, they’d make a digital only handheld, which in my mind is just like playing games on a phone, tablet, or perhaps a steam deck. Those bases are covered so there’s no point. As long as Nintendo makes handheld systems that take cartridges, they will own the market! Sony and Microsoft have no idea how to make cartridge games.
Nintendo will continue to dominate the handheld market because that is what they have always been good at. Look back at all the handhelds that have tried to dethrone Nintendo. That's not to say that some weren't good, they just didn't have the arsenal that Nintendo has. I still think Microsoft should drop out of the game industry and pool their resources to fix the mess that is Windows 11, and not release a handheld that isn't going to go any where. I also think Sony just needs to correct the trajectory that the PS5 is on. You don't really hear much these days about either system from Microsoft or Sony, there just sorta there, at least to me.
I'm not here to bash either company just what I have seen following the market. Who's to say though, maybe Sony and Microsoft will pull a rabbit out of their hat and release a handheld that will give Nintendo a run for their money. Only time will tell if the rumors are true and if they will succeed where others have failed.
Sony definitely could but no chance for Microsoft. But there's no way Sony could make one and have it run cartridges/disks, it would have to be a digital only console and that alone would turn a lot of people off.
The rumours are it's happening anyway, but whatever Sony or Microsoft put put I don't think it will anywhere near successful as the Switch, heck I don't even think the Switch 2 will be close to the Switch 1 sales either.
I don’t think even Nintendo can outdo the Switch’s success. I think we’re facing an economic downturn, and some market saturation for handhelds (people satisfied with their Switches). The Switch was a runaway freight train in gaming and I think the Switch 2 can be a modest success, but lightning won’t strike twice. So I don’t expect a competitor handheld to take off either.
I hope that leads to more innovation in handhelds 2 gens from now, and especially to smaller form factors. People are buying pillow attachments to hold up their “handheld” pcs and consoles this gen, so their hands don’t fall asleep since the tech is so stupidly heavy. You can barely call them portable.
It be nice but most titles will be inferior to there big console variants and no nintendo games on them of course.
Sony tried and the hardware was good. The trouble is that Sony is notoriously bad at supporting their hardware outside their main console.
I like the idea of Game pass on the go. MS just needs to come up with a mobile version of Windows. Steam deck leads on its usability. Windows on the Rog and Go is not good.
If it plays GTA6 and it comes in under £400 then it has potential.
I can only assume Nintendo and Rockstar could not reach an agreement with regards to GTA Online and that's why GTA5 never showed up.
I mean they're both swimming in cash already so I doubt they even care, but it's still got to go down as one of, if not the, biggest missed opportunity of this console generation.
GTA5 on Switch would have put Switch at number one console of all time by units. No doubt.
I would not be at all surprised if that's what has tempted Sony back in. Nintendo never secured GTA, so Sony will make that an absolute priority I'm sure.
It's been a long time since GTA5 launched... I think we've probably all forgotten by now just how significant an event it was and GTA6 will be.
I think there’s enough room in the market for all of them. The Switch hybrid model was a genius move for Nintendo. They create incredible games, and now they don’t have to create for two different systems (handheld and console.) I think it will be harder for both Sony and Microsoft. I don’t think they’ll catch up to the Switch in the handheld space, but I do think there’s room for them both.
@swoose especially if the rumors are true and it's just going to be a Switch 2 on steroids. In order to sale more than the Switch or have a chance Nintendo will really need to find something that is going to fresh and not just rehash the same ol' I think.
I've seen the recent leaks of the alleged joycons for the new system as well. But who is to say that those aren't just concepts for the Switch.
This question is an example of the "Pepsi Fallacy".
It's this extremely prevalent belief among people who are not part of the business world that PepsiCo must cry themselves to sleep every night because they ONLY have 20% market share. That every conversation ever had by any executive is about "beating" Coke.
That's obviously ridiculous. They swim around in a giant pool of money from their 40 billion a year in profits, and have conversations around lowering overhead and increasing profitability. Even when they speak to market share, Coke doesn't come up, they simply talk about how to make their own products more attractive.
So the question should be can Sony and Microsoft be profitable in the handheld space. Nintendo isn't a factor. It's just about them getting a product to market that people are going to be interested in.
Sony has in the past; while PSP and PSV sales were never as high as they wanted them to be, they were profitable. The Q sold well despite being ... just awful, and using streaming code that was inferior to what they used to give away for free a decade ago. They are kinda like apple at this point. They could make a $900 device with a 1.5 inch screen that plays Game and Watch clones and a small demographic would eat it up. Could they make a handheld with a 8 year life span that was profitable throughout? Hell no. Could they sell the masses a hunk of crap and make a quick buck? Absolutely.
As for Microsoft ... hard to say. A Microsoft Handheld would just be a steam deck linked to Game Pass instead of Steam, and I can see that having a huge market. Also Microsoft generally makes incredible hardware ... but they also generally stop supporting it almost immediately. That's the big question; if MS commit to something, I think it could be huge. But if they treat it like every other venture into hardware, it will end up ... well, like every other Microsoft venture into hardware.
The Xbox handheld is dead on arrival, especially if it primarily focuses on Cloud streaming. PlayStation can provide some competition but it'll be much more expensive since it'll be a more premium product. With backwards compatibility already set in stone, it's really only up to Nintendo to derail themselves.
Well, if we look at things historically, many game companies have tried their hand at a handheld (Sega, Atari, Sony, etc.), but Nintendo is the only game company with a thriving handheld market, having had some form of handheld since the Game & Watch launched in 1980.
If anything, with the exception of the Wii, Nintendo's most successful consoles have been their handhelds. The Switch is unique in that it is both a handheld and a home console, but many primarily use it as a handheld device.
Heck, not even the advent of smartphones has toppled Nintendo's grip on the handheld market, even when you get console-like experiences such as Genshin Impact, Wuthering Waves, and Resident Evil on smartphones.
It would take a lot for Microsoft and Sony to remotely come close to Nintendo in the handheld market, much less topple the Big N in dominating it. And that's assuming that either one of them will stay in the console market for much longer (with Xbox sales basically being a joke, and Sony being over $31 billion in debt as of earlier this year).
I mean the og PSP brought competition and that can breed innovation, but I don't know, Nintendo has always really had a good grip on the handheld market.
I feel like I hear news about Xbox it sounds like they are hanging on by a thread. So maybe it's be their dreamcast?
If all Sony does was make a dedicated handheld that is as powerful as a PS4 that had its own library of games then that would be a failed from the get go cause some devs won't bother with it and gamers will just play the PS5 versions of those games instead. If they are making a portable PS5 that is digital only then it still a fail cause the physical game owners won't be happy, if they make a portable PS5 that support physical games too then it still failed cause disc are not reliable for portable play. The only way Sony's handheld could thrive is if they ditch disc altogether and make the PlayStation 6 as a hybrid system that used cartridges from now on then they would be able to find success. That also means no more backwards compatibility with older games but that's a big sacrifice for a better future for PlayStation.
As for an Xbox handheld, they'll fail no matter what. Xbox should just become third party and released their games everywhere. Their handhelds will just make them bleed even more money. The only way an Xbox handheld would be a success is if they make their entire ecosystem digital only and had Steam support otherwise there's no reason for anyone to buy one when they could get the same if not a better Xbox handheld experience in a Steam Deck or ROG Ally than the Xbox handheld.
As for Nintendo, the Switch 2 just needs to be backwards compatible with Switch games and it just needs to support 4K capability with better performance and an affordable price tag.
As someone who owns both a Switch and a Steam Deck, Sony and Microsoft would have to offer something truly unique for me to consider getting one of their handheld consoles. From my perspective, the Steam Deck offers pretty much everything the Switch doesn't, and vice-versa. So for Sony and/or Microsoft to get my attention, they would need an interesting hook or gimmick that I haven't considered yet. I don't see that happening. Barring that, why shouldn't I just keep getting iterations of the Switch and Steam Deck?
I’d absolutely LOVE more handhelds. But not huge things.
They need to be max size same as switch lite and no bigger. Have their own library of games. Physical Games.
Then I’d eat it up.
As a long time Nintendo fan this article sounds so obnoxious and arrogant.
I never like it when Nintendo become this way, they usually fail when they do.
Wii sells like hotcakes, they get too comfortable and fall on their sword with the Wii U.
I love competition, it brings out the best in these companies, I'd buy either if they have decent products, it makes Nintendo uncomfortable and makes them take risks, that's when they're at their best.
Microsoft could make a handheld PC that runs Windows with a SteamOS style overlay that makes it more “console” like. I think that would honestly be a great device to have, especially with full Game Pass integration and cross-buy with Xbox. Plus with Steam Deck having introduced a lot of people (myself included) into PC gaming they have a chance to sway Deck owners who are looking to upgrade as that machine is starting to struggle more and more with newer games.
As for Sony…I don’t have a clue what they could do. A weaker PS5 (Series S style) in a handheld form factor is about the only feasible thing I could imagine and even that poses so many problems that I don’t know it’d be worth doing. On the other hand, a dedicated handheld separate to PS5 with its own games would just be silly when handheld PCs that play modern games are readily available and Sony can’t even put out a good volume of games for the machine they already have without worrying about splitting up resources for a handheld.
I think either way Nintendo will remain unchallenged. Handheld PCs are great but they aren’t for the mainstream customer who wants simplicity and that’s where the Switch excels. Sony can make a dedicated handheld but most of the games that come to it will likely come to Switch 2 as well and it’ll have Pokémon, Mario Kart etc. to boot. Nintendo have always dominated the handheld space, I don’t see that changing any time soon.
Nintendo will remain king of the handheld market, they've made the Switch such an easy environment to buy games for that my entire gaming ecosystem revolves around it. I have very little interest for any other consoles. I know this sounds biased & entitled, but I really only have time for Nintendo games. I don't have the luxury of time for gaming, and when I do it's only for the small subset of Switch games that I can play. It's why I've ever only owned one console per generation. Really don't care what Sony & Microsoft do with or without their consoles. It's a waste of my money to buy consoles that I would hardly play with. Additionally, it's why I've never paid for the Nintendo Switch Online Expansion tier, I don't have time to benefit from that service so why should I throw away money? I've built a library & backlog on my Switch that could last me a very long time, possibly even forever. Don't get me wrong, I'll still buy new Nintendo games that I'm very interested in but it'll only be one or two per year at most.
Sony and Microsoft aren't "opposition" they are competition lol. I'm sure they aren't opposed to Nintendo being Nintendo (that's more like their fans hehe.)
Can Sony support 2 different consoles. They are barely supporting one! Mind you, a hybrid would let them reset their economies of scale somewhat. Develop more 'smaller' games and upscale for the home. It's clear the way they are going now is a dead end amd simply throwing huge amounts of cash at a genre to try to claim top spot doesn't work. But their fans want the AAAA experience. Who knows how the landscape will pan out.
Sony's handheld will be like the PSPs. Too many bells and whistles to appeal to a blue ocean.
As for Microsoft. Well. I think they will be competing more with Steam Deck. And anyone buying their hybrid will probably need to start a gym membership so they can lift it.
But both will be copying. And Nintendo have stressed time and again how important it is to be first to market with ideas. Hence their secrecy. Sony and Microsoft's consoles (and indeed to a lesser extent the Switch successor) will have a harder time to capture the public's imagination...because Nintendo already have it.
We'll see. All three companies have enough fans to sell a decent enough amount of consoles. How happy they make their fans depends on games. A tale as old as time
As an Xbox user myself, I'd love to have a handheld Xbox device to keep playing off-tv. It would have to be playable locally, no cloud gaming please, but downloading saves is essential. The fact that Microsoft doesn't charge for cloud saves is just perfect for that matter, though I suppose it would mess with the Quick Resume function on the home console.
I was under the impression that the psp was popular? I don't think Microsoft could make a good handheld though.
@KingMike They seriously said that? Wow. Talk about contempt for their customers.
I just don't think it's worth their time unless they are going full "Switch" mode, AND do the least that Nintendo does, THEN it would be fair game, head on, competition. Otherwise, I don't see a need. Personally I feel Nintendo did what I've wanted ALL consoles to do with being able to play at home and on the go, so maybe we game hit that time in the industry as a whole now. Cloud/ digital download seems to be the other direction. Who knows?
Simple answer is no. Without Mario kart, Zelda etc they will never be able to compete. These series are what has made Nintendo so special.
Also Microsoft have already destroyed the handheld idea with their play anywhere slogan. What's the point in paying all that money for a handheld when they have already pushed for the idea of play on any device.
I doubt Microsoft would commit to keeping a handheld alive, and they'd just make it a Game Pass machine which needs to be always online, which kind of defeats the purpose. I'd be interested in a new PSP type thing from Sony in order to actually play through the meaty JRPGs I enjoy, but they would need to support it and forgo expensive proprietary storage options.
@N00BiSH Microsoft is too busy competing with themselves by putting their games on competing platforms
I'm ready to be wrong, but I don't know if it's possible for them both to compete at this point?
Nintendo has almost total domination of the handheld market, and the Steam Deck picks up any remaining slack, to say nothing of all the premium machines (e.g., Analogue Pocket), off-brand devices (e.g., Anberic handhelds, etc.), and weirdo boutique stuff like the Playdate. It's kind of a quietly crowded market.
More than that, Sony has tripled-down in the past few generations on mainly marketing to people who hate games or are embarrassed of games and only want consoles that look like futuristic appliances and games that look like movies, which are not things handhelds are known for.
Microsoft though??? Who even knows, haha
I truly hope they produce some nonsense that's gloriously unhinged, has like 30 games, and is never mentioned again a few years after release (I'd consider buying one if it were like this).
@TheBigK
Game Pass doesn't require you to be online. On PC, you can pick a single device to work in "offline mode", and that device only needs to go online once every 30 days. Microsoft is aware that gaming laptops are a thing, and that people like to game offline.
If Microsoft did a Surface console, then maybe. Gotta have the right combo of hard/software (XSS tier APU, good battery life, port of the XS dash to it), then maybe. Sony? Well, they tried with the Vita & Portable, but it just wasn't enough.
I’m excited at the prospect of another manufacturer releasing a portable console, but I don’t think they can touch Nintendo. Nintendo’s exclusive titles are a key to their success. I’ll keep an eye out though and either will likely be a day one purchase if the game lineup looks good.
If Switch 2 is just a more powerful Switch, then yes.
With the way Microsoft and Sony have handled their consoles, I wouldn’t spend my cash on their handheld systems. Especially Microsoft! I’ve owned Sony’s handhelds. But I’ve been shocked at how lackluster they’ve been, during the PS5 era. Sony is giving Microsoft vibes. Where is the spirit of competition between these two? 🤷🏾♂️
I think Sony needs to focus more on software at this point.
Not really worth answering polls. The future is a complete mystery. If I made a guess it would probably turn out wrong, so I'd rather not waste the effort.
No they wont be able to compete with Nintendo in the portable gaming space, neither of them look like they're in any position to be able to fully support the one system they do have, let alone add a second system into the mix. Microsoft's inclusion in this is actually particularly laughable.
They could opt to make it a 3rd party machine, but that method didn't work on the Vita, no reason why it will work on another Sony portable console when the market is on the verge of imploding.
Microsoft can't even make a reliable portable mobile phone, let alone a portable gaming device. Id be surprised if either of them actually go all the way with this, Microsoft more so than Sony.
“largest technical leap you will have ever seen in a hardware generation” - that is a crazy claim, especially from Microsoft. You're telling me you're going to impress me more than going from the SNES to the N64? Nonsense.
Also, Nintendo will be fine. Nobody beats them with handhelds. They'll figure it out.
The specs would be too high and Nintendo would beat them on price.
They won’t run current-gen games natively so what’s the point? Many have tried to challenge Nintendo over the years but none have succeeded. As much as I like my Steam Deck - which, let’s face it, wouldn’t exist without the Switch - its sales numbers are pitiful. By the end of this year it might be at around 4.5 million. Them’s rookie numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's PS 5 handheld has glass backing, lol. They think they're apple now.
Anyway, what's to stop the competition from copying Nintendo? Why bother. It's what they do.
Will this really work tho?
Probably won’t buy them either way, as I am more with Nintendo on handhelds
Neither will be as accessible or easy to use as the Switch. They will be clunky, awkward and bloaty. That will be a turn off. They'll also cost twice as much and have like 5 different versions, making it confusing as to which one to buy.
Nintendo shouldn't be too worried. They DO need to clean up the eShop though. It's a slow moving train wreck.
I'm old (Hello Boomer, yes I know) and I just came back to gaming after a long hiatus. Back then, my game was Halo. Countless hours in LAN battles with the friends on Halo 2. Them LAN days are over.
Coming back, the choice was easy. Nintendo, all the way. For 3 reasons mainly: Games, Games and Games.
That's what matters to me most. FUN games that provide harmless escapism with endless replay value.
Even if the big 3 made portables, they can't succeed because Nintendo has 2 big advantages over anybody else :
1. Tons of stellar IPs.
2. Much cheaper and easier entry point to play fun games.
To me, the portability factor is just icing on the cake but not the main reason.
Buying a Xbox or PS rig, with the often required costly yearly membership, is just too darn expensive. And I don't care about the free games they provide on their respective "passes", they are 99% uninteresting to me.
I just want to play fun games, based on classic IPs, that aren't about lifelike wars and killing, and to not be sucked into an expensive rollercoaster ride that needs a second mortgage.
Nintendo every day and twice on Sunday!
P.S. I still play my GBA. Good games are fun to play forever.
@Pally356 Yeah. Sony barely released any first party games since PS5 launched. Funny thing is that Sony supported the failed VITA more than PS5. If you remove all the recycled PS4 games on it, there isn much besides Spiderman 2 and Astro. The rest are more or less PS4 games.
No one can compete with Nintendo Handheld sales.
TV Consoles is dying, and is why 20 PC Manufacturers makes gaming handhelds already. All with TV support.
And now Microsoft and Sony will join in.
Most of these handhelds will sell millions, but none of them will sell like Switch. Switch 2 won't sell as much as Switch, because of 10's of other handhelds.
Nintendo isn't alone anymore.
In fact there are more handhelds competing now than it was in 1990's.
Sadly the audience that brought the Vita/PSP has moved on.
Today's Sony fanboi can't handle if the graphics of a reflection in a puddle doesn't look like a mirror.
It’s difficult but Sony was definitely one of the key elements that forced Nintendo out of the home console business and when all the goty nominees are being playable on PS5…they might have a shot of doing something interesting. Can’t see Microsoft doing it but anything is possible!
You can talk about hardware and specs all you want. But Sony simply needs to up their first party game. It's been lackluster on the PS5 compared to its previous consoles. No handheld or console will sell without substantial first party offerings. And that is exactly why Microsoft has no chance at creating a successful handheld. Microsoft has abandoned first party games ever since the release of Halo 3. And that's why their systems have failed ever since.
@Pally356 and software more like The Last of Us and less like Concord.
Just came to say Big W to the writer for The Wire reference in the tagline. Best show ever still imo.
@bigpale I'd buy that for sure
Nintendo Switch is a home console the same as xbox and playstation, what is so confusing!!!! Some part of it's success can be put down to it being able to be used as a handheld, but we will never know the true percentage of people that would not have bought the console if it didn't work as a handheld.
I would suggest the main reasons peoplebought switch was their games, mario, zelda, animal crossing, smash bros. And a very big one 'the price.
PSP and Vita were (and still are) fabulous pieces of kit. Sony could make a PSP 3 and it could be great. I'm a bit concerned with PlayStation's current so-called management and what they'd expect it to do.
Sony have a tendency to get distracted by other things and then their handhelds suffered. I mean the PSP doing 82 million units was a good success (mainly due to Monster Hunter) if not to the DS levels but the poor Vita, which still feels like quality in the hand compared to the Switch Lite, died way too early with a Sony knife in its back.
If microsoft makes a decent piece of hardware that will let me play any windows game on the go I'd consider it. I would have to wait and see for a sony one. After they treated the vita the way they did and to be honest with how they've lacked ps vr 2's first party support I don't think they've changed.
There have been many attempts at the Handheld Throne, but the result is always the same. "That's cool, but you're just copying Nintendo." Nintendo has the home-team advantage by virtue of simply being the first ones in. Ever since the Gameboy, everyone else has just been a step behind.
They are going to downgrade their graphics and Switch 2 is going to upgrade their graphics? What part of this doesn't compute for Sony or Xbox? Sony/Xbox is all digital games why would people invest in more to downgrade?
Games library wise no Sony/Microsoft have not impressed me enough this gen to even care what they do with it.
PS4 like mobile equivalent or Series S hardware or whatever to base on sure. Whatever they go with.
3rd parties would have to pick up the slack. Wii U/Vita libraries are still good enough to me that I never had issues with the western third parties skipping Wii U, 3DS or Vita or offering family titles only or bad mobile to handheld ports then the hardcore/wider teen & adult audience IPs.
Still using my Vita, bought some Vita/PSP/PSP Minis the past few months let alone yesterday.
I literally couldn't have cared less about them if the Japanese/Indies are still great to pick up let alone many PSP Minis were. But most people did, I didn't miss out on anything when I got them, & I haven't since.
Either way those that did go to the system people barely cared.
Happy with Switch/Vita, PSP, DS, 3DS. Switch 2 better be good of gimmicks though. Hardware can be fine and game design better not be Pikmin 4 or others bad. But gimmicks & physical I'm there. BC can take or leave but is nice.
If Sony/Microsoft offer the hardware I'll research it, and the battery life/specs better be balanced but unless the Japanese 3rd parties or Indies deliver or we get gimmicks worth while like cough no dual screen on Portal then yeah I couldn't care less. They already have touchpad & gyro so nothing new there.
Besides Xbox having some patent/gyro plans, 3rd party controllers had a screen. Doubt MS care.
Steam Deck having those touchpads, gyro, etc. like the Steam Controller besides being a PC storefront is the successor of what Sony would do for a handheld with gimmicks on it.
Sony/Microsoft can look at the market and try but if they don't really commit couldn't care less what they do.
(I didn't care whether Sony dropped support games wise as they did what they could, they have a standard and did HD collections and other publishing to a point besides production to 2019, I'd say that's good enough.
I didn't need a new IP or the PS4 IPs on Vita, PSP had PS2/3 era IPs and they were fine but I didn't need to go oh there is only 1 or up to 3 not a new one every year still of like sports or shooters or whatever.
Even the PS2/Wii/PSP ports were fine, or PSP/DS unique ones like Wii. I didn't care for parity and I also had no issues with missed out IPs. Even Bioshock Vita a cancelled tactics game. I'd have liked that but others would complain going wah iPhone got Bioshock 1, why can't Vita. The way people did Killzone Liberation till Mercenary. Their expectations are too high. Declassified/BO4 solo expectations as well.
PSP had games people seek, I barely cared, I still get games I look forward to of puzzle, tactics, racing, etc. Still have many in mind pickups/research. So to me Vita having less/none of some IPs/gaps filled, didn't an issue the way others did). XD
They left it a hardcore for Indies support & Japanese to do their thing and those that did do Asian Eng releases made their effort/family friendly device.
The third parties like PSVR2 still delivered but did production wise in 2019/remote play app moved to Android anyway and the app for PS4/Android/iPhone/PC ever since was eh, of no target resolution and may be slightly better (no 360p/540p aka a 720/1080p etc. target setting) but even besides the 2.4ghz of Vita and the 2.4/5ghz of later PS4 models and of course PS5, not that fussed really as the app is pretty eh still).
@bigpale You realize the rumor right now is the Switch 2 will be $400, right?
Imagine telling people your new console idea was a cross between the Wii U (13 million sold) and PS Vita (16 million sold) and that it would sell 140+ million.
While the 7th generation of consoles still reigns supreme because of the wild success of the DS and PSP, just counting home consoles, it's actually surpassed by the 8th generation (if you allow the Switch to count in place of or in addition to the Wii U).
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