
Well, that was quick... But also slow.
That Nintendo would take action against programs that circumvent security and open up obvious avenues to playing Switch games without having purchased them is entirely unsurprising given the platform holder's historic 'emulation is piracy' stance. But the speed with which Tropic Haze, the makers of Switch emulator Yuzu, capitulated to the platform holder's demands is yet another indication of the sobering strength of Nintendo's legal teams.
Less than a week after taking legal action, and just a day or so after Tropic Haze engaged its own legal counsel, you can imagine the swift advice the emulation group must have received. When Nintendo's cease-and-desist and a $2.4 million fine were agreed to without any contest whatsoever, Yuzu's creators saw the writing on the wall as clearly as the rest of us. It's an eventuality they must have considered for years at this point.
Bearing in mind the progress Yuzu had made since its 2018 launch — it was already running Super Mario Odyssey by November of that year — it's really only surprising that it's taken Nintendo this long to aim the lawyers in Tropic Haze's direction given its consistent focus on preventing the 'illegal circumvention' of its software security measures. It's been an uncharacteristically slow build-up to what turned out to be a very quick game. Switch is Nintendo's current system — Nintendo's only system, too — so yes, of course the ninjas were going to release a ton of brick-blocks on Yuzu, eventually.
We've seen that approach before, most recently with Gary Bowser, whose role with Team Xecuter saddled him with a $14 million debt as well as a prison sentence. That enormous figure probably made a measly 2.4 mil seem reasonable. The intention here could only be to make examples of the highest-profile hackers and emulation experts on the block and dissuade lesser-knowns from pursuing similar activities. The message couldn't be louder or clearer.

Nintendo has taken possession of yuzu-emu.org and, heading there, you'll see the same statement Tropic Haze put out on social channels:
Hello yuz-ers and Citra fans:
We write today to inform you that yuzu and yuzu’s support of Citra are being discontinued, effective immediately.
yuzu and its team have always been against piracy. We started the projects in good faith, out of passion for Nintendo and its consoles and games, and were not intending to cause harm. But we see now that because our projects can circumvent Nintendo’s technological protection measures and allow users to play games outside of authorized hardware, they have led to extensive piracy. In particular, we have been deeply disappointed when users have used our software to leak game content prior to its release and ruin the experience for legitimate purchasers and fans.
We have come to the decision that we cannot continue to allow this to occur. Piracy was never our intention, and we believe that piracy of video games and on video game consoles should end. Effective today, we will be pulling our code repositories offline, discontinuing our Patreon accounts and Discord servers, and, soon, shutting down our websites. We hope our actions will be a small step toward ending piracy of all creators’ works.
Thank you for your years of support and for understanding our decision.
Regardless of your position on piracy — or the undeniably neat things that are possible via non-official firmware — it's tough for even ardent console hardware modders to deny that the most attractive aspect of the open-source emulator amongst the majority of 'yuz-ers' was likely the ability to play Nintendo's games without buying them. With high-profile leaks leading to people playing Switch games on PC before they're even released, it's difficult to imagine many of those early players sourcing and buying the game once it had launched, notionally hopping back over the fence into legality. Honestly, it's shocking only that the hounds hadn't ripped poor Yuzu to shreds long ago.
With an R4-style Switch flashcard now doing the rounds, Nintendo will be keen to avoid the situation we have now with DS — cruising eBay these days, it's hard to find a secondhand DS console that's not bundled with an R4 and a micro SD. Nintendo bundles all these things into the same category, and though Switch may be well into its twilight years, there's life (and profit) in the old dog yet.

For Nintendo fans and anyone interested in game preservation or fan-made efforts to restore official, now-defunct functionality to old Nintendo systems, it's disappointing to see support for the 3DS emulator Citra cut off as a result of this settlement. Memes about how easy the system is to hack aside, the 3DS eShop is gone and online functionality for its library will be terminated in April. For all the headlines highlighting its demise as Switch's success rocketed from 2017 onwards, the 3DS truly is a dead system now, with many eShop-only titles now unavailable to purchase anywhere. Seeing Citra support halted along with Yuzu is a shame.
Rarely is anything ever truly gone on the internet, of course. It remains surprisingly easy to have unsanctioned fun with your 3DS — a system that resides among the glorious dead in our books. As for Switch, we'll see what the future holds. But, regardless of how you feel about it, Yuzu's shutdown was a long time coming.
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It's sad to see these emulator go. A lot of these emulators are the reason I still play and buy games. I like to play the original and compare them to remaster. It also make me wonder if games prices are going to increase even more, now that they no longer have to keep the price low to compete with piracy.
From what I understand, the specific problem was that the Yuzu team put fixes for an unreleased game behind a Patreon paywall, and also that they "provided tools for decrypting Switch software" even if they aren't implemented within the emulator itself.
As I understand it, Switch game and firmware dumps can be decrypted, but I recall that Yuzu might've had an option to run a copy of your Switch system's NAND in order to be able to run encrypted dumps from your own system?
It's important to state that the legal case was apparently civil, not criminal, and that due to reaching settlement rather than judgement that this will not set any precedent on the subject of emulators or circumventing digital protections to decrypt game software.
Honestly, I don't know of what to think or say about this whole mess any more.
So many mixed feelings is all I can say.
Reason why it took this long for Nintendo to shutdown Yuzu was cause of the Tears of the Kingdom leak which eventually lead Nintendo to Tropic Haze and their Patreon account as well as other piracy tools they had. Had that never occurred Nintendo would had no reason to go after Yuzu. Let's just face it TH did it on themselves, they should had been more aware of stuff they are giving their users cause make one wrong move and it's over. The one thing to always remember, if you had skeletons in your closet, best to keep that door closed at all time. Either that or you fight to prove your innocence and in this case TH didn't do that, they didn't choose to fight.
It's their right to go against emulator, especially if it encourages piracy (which it does by its sheer existence) but it's also sad cause emulation is currently the only way to e.g. play XC2 with a good resolution or Pokemon SV with an actual framerate
Yuzu got super greedy, citra or other emulators never had this issue. They had it coming.
You don't go vs Nintendo profits lol
Citra going down alongside Yuzu is the proof that the second most powerful force working against game preservation (after video game companies) are emulator developers themselves - or rather their greed and hubris.
I think the big turning point on Yuzu was people uploading Tears of the Kingdom and publicizing how you could play it for free ahead of release date. No wonder Nintendo suddenly decided to do something about it — their final big Switch game was having sales cannibalized. Those of us who were around for the Dreamcast days remember the problems Sega faced when people realized you could played burned game discs without having to mod the system. Nintendo has every right to defend their only line of revenue.
Citra going away is the bigger loss, if only because Nintendo isn't doing anything to support its legacy platforms. But from what I understand its open source and bound to come back in some form.
I'll be honest: I'm pushing 40 and feeling really nostalgic for the things of my youth lately. And while I can buy or stream practically any movie or show from my childhood, videogames are not as easy. So I've turned to emulating older systems.
I really hope this action isn't a sign of things to come with Nintendo getting aggressive on other emulators like Dolphin. If they don't support their own history, it'd be a shame to tear down others doing the same.
Why did Citra shut down? They didn't monetize themselves and the lawsuit was clearly aimed at Yuzu. At least I have copies of Citra already, I just started playing the 3ds Zelda games on big screen.
Buy a switch 2 day one, dont update it and wait for a jailbreak.
Um... well duh, the best part of piracy is that you don't have to purchase it, but that's why it's illegal.
@solarwolf07
Citra had a Patreon as well, and I think it's more a symptom of Tropic Haze shuttering as a whole.
Switch 2 better be as good as emulating on PC if they want to kill the main reasons people emulate...
@solarwolf07 Yuzu is based on Citra's code base
Yeah, as others mentioned here and the other comment section about this it's just because they weren't smart about it, you don't put new releases of your emulator behind Patreon paywalls, providing tools for decryption even if not bundled with it etc., I really hope future developers of such things will learn from this situation.
That said, I'm still not happy that Nintendo took action against it since those who exclusively pirate will do that regardless so in the end it hurts mostly those who also support the official releases... if they can as let's not forget that in the case of the 3DS you aren't able to do so anymore because of the eShop's closure!
The poked the bear by emulating stuff way too soon even before the official release in some cases.
@EvenStephen7 you can bet on it before taking down emulators nintendo took down many rom sites for nes and snes roms..
@ArcticSin The main reason 99% do so is because it’s free.
Anime for example is easily accessible and pretty cheap but there’s dozens of illegal streaming sites up.
For every person who buys the game then emulates on better hardware there’s 99 others who emulate with zero intention of buying the cart also.
Do you think the attempt of putting Switch emulators on the Steam storefront worked as wake up call to Nintendo get up in arms? Honest question, really
It took this long because of three things, IMO:
It's a current gen system (which I realize there have been emulators for current gen systems for decades now), they're making a TON off their Patreon and games were leaked before actual release dates.
It was a recipe for Nintendo to (rightly) get involved.
I will never take the side of a multi-billion dollar company.
Buuuut... Yuzu really shot themselves on the foot for this one. I can't take their side either. Modern console emulation, for systems that are still officially supported, is dodgy at best. And Tropic Haze's attempt to charge money for this was a BIG mistake.
At the very least, Tropic Haze had the sense to reach a settlement, rather than letting the case set a dangerous legal precedent.
Emulators for currently supported consoles have always felt dodgy to me regardless of legality. I am completely behind emulators being widely available for legacy consoles and preserving games for those systems (especially if platform holders/publishers make no effort to make old games playable on new hardware) but for systems still relevant…nah. I know there are legitimate reasons for why somebody might buy a game and choose to play it through Yuzu (better performance etc.) but I refuse to believe that the amount of people using it legitimately far outweighs the amount using it to play Switch games for free.
Ultimately making an emulator for a current platform and facilitating easy piracy of new games plus making money from doing so…not a huge surprise things have ended up this way. Hopefully this doesn’t dissuade developers from making emulators in the future and with any luck it might convince them to consider when to actually release them in a way that’s best for everybody.
Anyone who thinks the emulator is actually dead after this doesn't understand why it was open source from the beginning and how many passionate people will be picking up the project right where it left off. It may have a different name and be updated on a different website but all that's happened from this is that awareness has spiked and it will be more popular than ever.
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Keep taking them down Nintendo!
I wonder how much companies add to the prices of their games in order to make up for these things.
I very was surprised to learn Yuzu was either considering or had already implemented a paid subscription model. This whole time I thought the things was free like all other emulators.
In all honesty, I'm not completely against all forms of piracy, I think there are some cases to be made, especially about older games that fetch crazy prices and no option for non-collectors who just want to play the software.
With that said, I'm pretty happy Yuzu, or any other company, won't be profiting off other people's hard work.
@SpaceboyScreams And that's not different from any other emulator that exists now. The difference is whether people are stupid enough to mix money with their emulators like Yuzu did.
@SpaceboyScreams
"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"
Couldn't resist.
So you’re telling me people can steal games by just using the internet? And here I’ve been robbing stores for all the games I want to play but don’t want to pay for.
What’s next? You’re going to say I can download a car?
@EvenStephen7
its one of the reasons why im all for any attempts the gaming industry does to help with preservation, whether it be backwards compatibility (both physical and digital) or making retro games available to buy on modern systems either by remasters/re-releases/ports of retro collections.
Its also why i find the way NSO handles the games frustrating (not being able to buy the games and only offering them via a subscription service where you need a periodic online check in order for them to function) alongside other things like delisting Mario 3d all stars and the original fire emblem from the eshop after only a few months.
I was a big fan of things like the virtual console, as flawed as it was it felt like it had room to improve and i was happy with the ability to play older games on a newer system without needing to mod it/use CFW. The late 2000s-early 2010s was the heyday for that kind of thing with the virtual console and sonys psone classics line were in full swing.
@HeeHo piracy is a service problem. If Nintendo offered products where people that pirate would want to buy it then they wouldn't pirate and emulate, for the most part. There will always be those that pirate because they don't want to pay for it, but the vast majority will gladly fork over money for what matches their ideal experience.
@Solomon_Rambling Yes, you can download a car.
Oh man, if Yuzu devs indeed have given all the info on the users they've been collecting in the background, the whole situation might get much, much more interesting.
https://twitter.com/HikikomoriMedia/status/1764894963194597458
It would explain why they settled for 'mere' 2.4 mil, too.
@solarwolf07 Citra is made by the Yuzu Team. Part of the settlement deal was that they stop providing tools for emulation for any Nintendo system. So they had to discontinue Citra as well.
Emulating old games is one thing. Outright piracy is another. Once you start cutting into current Switch sales of games on the market, Nintendo is going to take action. Nothing about wanting Tears of the Kingdom for free has to do with “preservation.”
Hopefully for those that actually want to preserve old stuff, this is a lesson.
@jeleleven Yup. Making a Patron and other stupid decisions was their undoing. Many many people will work on this for free.
Good job, Nintendo.
Two birds killed in one shot: Yuzu and Citra.
@EvenStephen7 This is exactly what I believe is the reason for this happening, now I'm actually curious, the people streaming TotK before release see how they are responsible for this turn of events and if so, they feel remorse about this being the result.
@HeroEightBit
I don't think there is a competition with piracy. Who can compete with FREE?
On the contrary, if less piracy leads to better sales, then this will help developer studios, especially the smaller ones.
@solarwolf07
Blame the Switch Pirates that made Nintendo take action. Citra was just in the crossfires, because made by the same people as Yuzu.
@Preposterous That was a yikes right there. Yeah, if they were sharing pirated copies with each other to develop Yuzu (especially copies that broke streetdates), then they would not enjoy a discovery process. That and advertising the methods to circumvent Nintendo's copy protection is not going to end well.
This entire scenario could had been avoided for them if they were just a bit more less public with this information.
They got too ballsy capitalizing on the leaks which made Nintendo pull the trigger. This certainly isn’t the death of emulation (Yuzu and Citra are open-sourced, they’ll survive), but folks are definitely going to have to be more mindful about monetization, especially around leaks.
@Tober "Who can compete with FREE?"
That is exactly my point. If there is no piracy, Nintendo can charge whatever they want to play their games. Nintendo knows that piracy is an option for consumers, and as long as there is at least one alternative option, they are forced to keep prices somewhat reasonable. The moment the option is gone, nothing is preventing them from selling their games for $100+.
"On the contrary, if less piracy leads to better sales, then this will help developer studios, especially the smaller ones."
I don't know how much that is true. It seems that there are two types of people that pirate (in my experience, as I have no evidence as well.) Those who have already bought the game, or those who were never going to buy the game to begin with.
We also don't know where the sales profits go. We don't know if they go to the studio, the publisher, the developers, the advertiser, etc. We would like the profits to go to the actual developers, but as we can see with all the tech layoffs as of late, I think there is good evidence that the profits go everywhere but the people who actually make the product (games).
If Nintendo does not like piracy, they should do something about it. And not just shut down anything that is a threat. Make me a better deal than piracy can. Make it easier to play older games. Give me more options in current games (Modding support). There are many options, but removing emulation seems to be the easy way out.
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They handled Yuzu abysmally but Citra shuttering is the real kicker.
Nintendo is worse than Denuvo. It's like Nintendo is made out of DRM. An unethical and unlawful corporation like Nintendo deserves to have their corporate charter/license revoked and be put out of business. People have the freedom to jailbreak their devices. People have the freedom to modify copies of software. Nintendo used their immense power and wealth to abuse a corrupt judicial system and steal. No one should give any money to support Nintendo's dystopian vision for the future of videogames.
@GrailUK I'm a huge Nintendo fan, so I hope the wonderful artists, musicians, and programmers that currently work for Nintendo can find employment in a healthier, pro-gaming context as soon as possible!!
@Shiesty I'm planning on not buying Super Switch at all. I say support freedom for the future of gaming, not Nintendo's authoritarian, dystopian nightmare where people don't own their consoles, don't own their purchased copy of software.
@120frames-please They don't need to now...
Have said elsewhere but the length of time it took Nintendo was I possibly hardware related. Yuzu was a thing in 2018 but needed a PC and didn't have much support for many games. Fast forward and there are powerful enough Android phones and things like the Steam Deck/ROG Ally/Odin 2 that can comfortably play almost all Switch games using Yuzu. The last couple of years saw Switch emulation move from a niche community to being something really easy to do!
The launch of TOTK was the big driver clearly - social media was literally awash with people showing it running ahead of launch on various devices, all running on Yuzu.
I made a comment on a forum that this would be the end of Yuzu and got piled on for people saying that Emulation isn't illegal. However it can't be denied that it helped piracy of a new product and Nintendo would be frightening to take on. Plus the devs had a patreon so technically profited. I'm gutted about Citra as its a dead system that needs emulation .
I buy all my games and then rip them so I can play them in high res and with a stable 60fps, something the switch cant 😒
I still got it and will continue to use it.
@Fulkaffe I do too
Since I've been playing emulators, I've had a rule about only emulating consoles that aren't current.
They should've waited until it was discontinued before making it publicly available.
But I've read that using Patron or whatever they were doing (to make money) is what made Nintendo much more eager to attack them.
Still though, things like Nintendo shutting down the online stores and those purposely time-limited releases even digitally... it's hard to sympathize with Nintendo when they do things like that.
@Waluigi451 I'd say that while it is necessary to preserve the content while it's alive, it's on the end user to still buy it while it's available.
(We have Satellaview and Sega Channel content missing. Lucky that the US Mega Man: Wiley Wars eventually turned up released from the official, but there are surely many other games not so lucky.)
“It's tough for even ardent console hardware modders to deny that the most attractive aspect of the open-source emulator amongst the majority of 'yuz-ers' was likely the ability to play Nintendo's games without buying them”
You’d get banned or dogpiled on a lot of forums for even vaguely suggesting this despite it being obvious and probably even provable with little doubt.
@120frames-please Pirates know that if nobody buys the games, no games would be made for them to pirate. So Pirates just leach of their fellow gamers. There is no morality in that.
@GrailUK exactly
@Tober sounds like an accurate description of the emperor, pretty close anyways
@SpaceboyScreams and, it seems the free, enthusiast developed version will always be better and more fun. It's fun to play videogames. Nintendo seems to just want control, power, and wealth. Why pay Nintendo to play a choppy, frame dropping version of f zero x (on NSO expansion pack) when it runs locked at 60 on Deck (and many other devices)? It also happens to run locked at 60fps on N64 and virtual console on Wii U, so I don't know what the hell Nintendo is doing...
I wonder who will take up the mantle on this. There's already a ton of forks of the last EA version (like Nuzu) - but I wonder if any of them will actually have the technical chops to continue new releases.
I wonder if Nintendo purposefully chose their moment to strike, pursuing action ahead of an imminent Switch2 announcement?
Working to issue "a message" to any other aspirating emulators, who may work to emulate S2 games?1
I'm glad Nintendo is protecting the games that THEY made with THEIR time, funds, creativity, passion and talent. To think that anyone can just essentially give away what isn't rightfully theirs to is shocking. I'd you really want to play a old Nintendo game, go and buy the old game and the old console. It's not like buying a NES and a game is THAT expensive anyway. Besides literally nobody in the mainstream cares about emulation anyway. Most people would rather play the games on the console it was designed to be played on. Why the hell would anyone want to play mario odyssey on a PC. It's just dumb. Well played Nintendo!
Just as long as they don't take down Red Viper 🔴🐍
Many commenters are asking the question "why now?" and for many, the immediate answer is the Tears of the Kingdom paywall on Patreon, but another possible reason for Nintendo redoubling their efforts against emulation now, could be that the Switch's successor will be launching into a very different competitive landscape to its predecessor. Since 2017, the portable, handheld PC category has exploded. There are so many, far more powerful devices than Switch, that are capable of running Switch titles at far better frame rates and resolutions than Nintendo's own hardware, a situation that may also affect their new console.
I'm with Lord Gaben on this; piracy is a service problem. Nintendo can either respond by putting their titles on PC themselves, or even better, fielding hardware that doesn't have such crappy framerates and sub hd resolutions that the reasons to emulate are reduced or eliminated entirely. Maybe the Ayaneo Flip DS was part of their tipping point, but really, eliminating emulation is not a viable solution, regardless of what the old guard at Nintendo thinks.
@Preposterous Sorry, I'm not sure I understand; could you explain why you think emulator developers are working against game preservation please? Just trying to understand.
i cannot even begin to imagine the mindset of somebody who gets upset at other people pirating games lol. go outside and sniff a flower or something.
My rule when it comes to piracy is that I will not do it if I can still buy it in a way that the publisher and devs get money from the game. If there is no legal way for me to get the game and in some way the devs and publisher get money from it then I will go that route. If not then pirating the game won't affect their bottom line.
I have used the Yuzu emulator but I will only play games on it that I actually own for the system (either physical or digitally) as I already have given nintendo my money for the game so I want to be able to play the game at the best possible experience with better framerate and resolution (if it doesn't affect framerate).
@brunojenso They go too far (in case of Yuzu waaaay too far) in promotion of easy piracy for the sake of financial gains. Simple as that. Genuine efforts for game preservation would be much slower and not profitable at all (not to mention: humble), but some just can't accept that.
I think the people who are saying that Switch piracy is fine because Nintendo are a big, faceless corporate body need to remember that the vast majority of games in the Switch's library are neither published nor owned by Nintendo. Most Switch games are third party releases, and many of those games are from small, independent studios who absolutely cannot absorb the costs of piracy like the industry's big players can. Times are tough and we should be supporting creators, not defunding them.
Emulation is a vital tool for preserving legacy systems, but we need to use it wisely. Citra being caught in the crossfire here is an ominous sign of what the future of emulators and their creators could hold if we continue to used them for the piracy of commercially active platforms instead of the preservation of the discontinued ones.
Weird to see an article that exposes th truth so well, on this site. Yuzu were profiting by selling pirate games on their Patreon. Whoever wants to justify that, is a delussional hack, who doesn't know how the real world operates.
If I had to guess, Nintendo knowing it couldn't just sue because of "emulator" waited until they were sure enough they had done something "bad enough" they could actually get them for, and judging how fast they went from "we're getting a lawyer and fighting this" to "yep 100% our fault" it was indeed "bad enough"
Sucks about Citra but I'm sure there's enough different versions by different teams that it wont be that much of a loss.
@SpaceboyScreams to be honest they don't even have to. Yuzu was a mature emulator and runs the vast majority of games without issue so while some new games coming out may have issues it's still around and working
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Simulating a piece of hardware in software is by itself rarely considered illegal.
Advertising its use and charging money for doing it, while said hardware is still the flagship of Japan's most valuable company?
Walking headfirst into trouble.
@luckyseven While I also disagree with them, calling people bootlickers helps nobody and is pretty disingenuous.
Yuzu's already been replaced. Citra's another matter. Might be time to finally hack my 3DS.
@Preposterous Cool thanks, and that makes sense. I do use emulators and retro handhelds myself – but I'm very, very careful to not steal – it's strictly for games I physically own, or have bought a digital copy of (or on occasion a game I've borrowed from a family or friend). It's not ideal because so many old games are unavailable for legitimate purchases – and even Nintendo doesn't make it easy to play games you own from the past (except one generation maybe) - but I don't use, or agree with using the shortcomings of the industry as an excuse to steal. But it must be said, much as I love Nintendo games, I think they are one of the greediest and most miserly entertainment-based companies out there – and rarely give much back to their customers – so that doesn't help.
@SteveDaSteve I don’t support Switch piracy either, but older consoles and games are getting overly expensive which is one of the reasons why people emulate and homebrew them in the first place especially if they’re no longer available physically or digitally (3DS and Wii U eshops for digital)
Exact comment I made on here regarding the initial article. The patient bled out years ago and now they are calling the EMT?
I honestly don't care about the emulators...but...apparently this affects stuff that allows me to mod my Switch, which is irritating...
Never tried switch emulator as I own switch and rather would just buy games.
But, when it comes to gamecube, n64, snes, gba, have them all via retroarch on my series x, look and play great as well.
If nintendo don't let me buy nso games, stuff em, I'll emulate them!
@luckyseven Yeah, secondhand prices are pretty prohibitive. My main reason for wanting emulation is because my hands just don’t fit the 3ds comfortably anymore, and I’d like to rip and play some of my physical copies on my Steamdeck so I can enjoy them without hand cramps. It is also very convenient. I’d personally never resort to piracy, but I don’t fault those who pirate when it is the only way to reasonably obtain a piece of media.
@brunojenso you use emulators and retro consoles but you've never downloaded a sneaky rom here or there? Are you sure? 😜
@Deljo basically. I do test games sometimes if I know I can still buy them some way. But I have a strict ‘demo’ 1 hour max rule for that.
As a kid I did with Amiga and GBA - but not anymore. It just feels wrong for me personally.
@moomin You honestly can't see how someone who put time and effort into creating something for a living might be slightly peeved to know people were helping themselves to their work for free?
@brunojenso how strict is this 1 hour rule, do you time it?? I'm only joking, it's none of my business what you play bit surely your retro handheld would be more fun with a load of roms on there, snes & mega drive for example?
They shouldn’t have included the decryption part, let people find that in a file elsewhere, kind of like how emulators don’t include original BIOS
They screwed up big time, either being greedy or just stupid. But at least they were smart enough to take the settlement. Even if you have a chance at a case, it's worthless to try and fight once Nintendo's legal eye is pointed at you. The courts are pay to play and they have bottomless funds to make it as long and painful as possible. And even after a win in court a big company can still mess with you like Sony did to Bleem.
It's nice that Tropic Haze's attorneys didn't try to milk them for more money. Their advice during their one day of being employed as legal counsel seems to have been "You're screwed, do whatever Nintendo asks, you morons".
Combined with Nintendo's current internal efforts, the Switch 2 can now become backwards compatible with the Switch via emulation rather than having to come up with a new SoC with nVidia to make it so via hardware. With this, they will likely be able to lower manufacturing and R&D costs for the upcoming Switch 2.
@Deljo your missing the point my friend - I was sharing an example of enjoying emulation WITHOUT piracy. Not judging others, but for me I’m actively avoiding piracy. So again, no I wouldn’t fill up my card with a ‘set’. I happen to own the Mega Drive collection on Steam (very cheap), and a SNES mini - so that covers a lot of the best games on those systems - which proves you can get a decent amount of games legitimately.
I never believe these products are truly in good faith. As at the end of the day they take the hard work of several people and just steal it simply because those people work for a company, large or small. That theft has become so common that people don’t even care. People demand that companies be “better” but they don’t start with themselves. And then complain about corruption while ignoring their own. Gluttony and hypocrisy at its finest. Tale as old as time I suppose.
@ArcticSin supposedly the Switch 2 is supposed to be somewhere around the strength of a Steam Deck on the lower end or as powerful as the Xbox Series S based on sources from Nvidia, but everything is still up in the air until Nintendo decides to announce it.
Seperated dad here who loved to buy switch games and play with my kids when i see them. Knowing they dont have switches at home so the experience for them is new and fresh everytime we see each other..... well so i thought.... my exes new partner pirates stuff. And he has been this whole time playing emulated switch games with my kids. How this frustrated me haveing spent so much money on consoles and games... where he justs downloads something and plays with them for free...... i for one am happy nintendo killed this... thank god
It's unfortunate that Citra was taken down as well. I know I'm the minority here, but I actually tend to buy games that I emulate first if I like them. I even bought some rom hacks for original consoles after finding them available as roms such as the English translations for Super Back to the Future II on SNES and Bare Knuckle 3 for Genesis. As for Citra, I tried out Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion after the last direct as I never played the original Wii game before (and intend to get the remaster) before I decided I wanted my own copy, and it is in the mail as we speak.
Nintendo made no money off my decisions to purchase these games. They all came from private sellers. I get closing the Switch emulator because it is still an active system, but for me there is a place for emulation of defunct game consoles because sometimes these games go for far more than they are worth, and Nintendo will never see a dime of it. These games also have dedicated communities that bugfix, remix, translate and vastly improve games that Nintendo will never localize or reissue with new features.
Now, if Nintendo decided to open an online catalog that allowed us to buy legacy games directly from them and support repairs, sales and replacements of their older systems, I'd be on board with booing the emulation scene. But that is never going to happen. I already have a hobby refurbishing old game consoles, but lets be honest, every year less and less of these older consoles are still around and salvageable, and emulation just makes sense for a vast majority of forgotten gems.
Kinda wished this went to trial. Would have loved to read about discovery and all the testimony. Good outcome for Nintendo and Emulation will be just fine.
Playing TotK on your PC 2 weeks before release day may not be Preservation, but it certainly is Praxis.
I mean, ya. It's emulation facilitating piracy on a current gen platform. They don't just have the legal right according to the letter of the law, they have the moral right according to the spirit of the law.
I say that as someone who appreciates and supports emulation 100%. I don't pirate, unless you count English translated versions of Japan-exclusive releases from hardware dating several generations back. But I do value emulation and see it as an vital aspect to gaming as a whole.
Be that as it may, ya... what did you expect. For them to be like, "well this emulator is facilitating illegal piracy of our current generation video games we sell on the retail and digital markets, but ehhh, you're fiiiiine... go for it bro. We'll pretend we're not looking"
You don't have to like it. But it demands respect. And anyone who fails to respect it doesn't have the intellectual capacity for me to even want to explain why they should.
If you are mnoaning about Yuzu being taken down, you are not a Nintendo fan. This isn't trolling NLife! 1 million people downloaded totk before it was out! That's not cool!
@RupeeClock I think your missinformed
It wasn't the yuzu Devs but the community as a whole,
@Dtronicsuk
Your comment doesn't really make sense, misinformed on what point? The community as a whole, did what? What community?
@dew12333 Nope. All of them charge you the absolute maximum that the number crunchers say they can (without fear of boycott), and its as simple as that.
@lazyboyblue Nah your wrong. If you think those number crunchers you mention don't look at all the costs when factoring for the 'amount they can get away with' charging then you are underestimating them.
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