Love them or loathe them, clones of retro systems are here to stay. Over the past few years we've seen numerous unofficial attempts to replicate the performance of vintage systems, some more successful than others. In recent years the arrival of authentic takes on this concept – such as the NES and SNES Classic Editions – has triggered a renewed gold rush with a flood of clones appearing to capitalise on the refreshed interest in all things retro.
The SNES Classic remains in high demand and companies like Hyperkin are getting in on the act with their own offerings, but if you're willing to head off the beaten track a little then you'll find some truly intriguing machines being sold. The Hamy NES and SNES HD Classic is one such device; as the name suggests, it runs 8 and 16-bit software via HDMI, giving you the chance to play software from the libraries of two of Nintendo's most beloved systems.
The unit is a rather unassuming plastic device with two slots on the top, one for NES games (sorry, no Famicom support here) and another for SNES and Super Famicom – the machine is capable of playing American, European and Japanese 16-bit titles. A three-stage power switch toggles between off, SNES and NES, while on the front you'll find two SNES controller ports. On the left-hand side there are two NES ports, and the system comes with one third-party pad for each system. Sadly, you can't use the SNES pad to play NES games or vice versa, so if you want to play two-player games, you're going to have to potentially invest in two more pads.
The controllers that come bundled with the console are your typical knock-offs; the SNES controller imitation looks different enough to avoid being confused with the real thing, and while it looks and feels a bit cheap, the buttons are responsive and the D-pad is accurate and precise. The NES controller is a little closer to the original design and has a "softer" feeling D-pad, but it's perfectly acceptable. Naturally, if you have your original controllers then they're work just fine.
Around the back of the console there's composite out and a HDMI port, the latter of which allows you to output a 720p image to a modern-day television set. The quality of the image isn't quite on par with the NES and SNES Classic, but it's a definite step up from the fuzziness of composite. While pixels have a slightly soft feel to them, colours are excellent and – perhaps most importantly of all – emulation is solid enough. We tested several different games and none suffered from any kind of faults or performance woes; the only real complaint is that the music in some NES titles (Ninja Gaiden and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles especially) sounds off; the drumbeats drown out much of the audio, which is something that doesn't happen on original hardware.
As well as offering a decent level of performance – NES audio issues aside – it's worth noting that the console deals with Super FX perfectly and is even capable of playing flash carts, if that's your bag. While we haven't torn the unit apart to check, we'd guess it's running a system-on-a-chip rather than using FPGA – the latter being hardware emulation rather than software – but we'd gladly go out on a limb and state that most people who play this console wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and the real thing. Sure, look (and listen) close enough and you'll no doubt uncover some discrepancies, but for a machine that costs £80, runs carts intended for two different consoles, comes with two controllers and offers HDMI capability, it's not a bad deal. If you're an absolute stickler for accuracy then you're perhaps better off investing in one of Analogue's amazing FPGA-based systems, but if you simply want a way to play your NES and SNES carts in HD, then Hamy's plain-looking challenger is worth considering.
Thanks to Tom's Retro Shack for supplying the unit used in this review.
Comments 20
Well this one actually sounds a bit better than most of these hunk-o-junks do. It really is worth it to pickup the original hardware or get an fpga system. The cost of Snes's and Nes's in my local shops are only $40 or $50. That's totally worth it to have the real deal.
@Prof_Yoshtonics I'd agree with that, except for the fact that all these older consoles look kinda bad on a big HD screen, let alone a 4K screen, if they don't have any kind of HD modification.
That would probably be a thing for quite a lot of people, and the only solution would then be to buy an Analogue NT, but not everyone has Analogue NT money, so this console here might be a more than agreeable alternative to that expensive option.
I’d rather just get an snes classic.
It works good but the clunky controllers aren't great or reliable. You best just buy a knockout from Hyperkin or Retro-Bit or just use the old ones for best result. The compatibility from both are quite good, for the NES side games like Castlevania III, Dragon Warrior, and Ninja Gaiden works fine on it but the system still can't play Rad Racer II and Blaster Master plus Battletoads still had the level 2 game freeze.
Also on the Super NES side the compatibility seems stronger and works with every games including Super FX games like Doom and Star Fox 2, repros plays great on it, homebrews like Nightmare Buster, Unholy Nightmare, and Creepy Bird works great on it, unlicensed title like Super Noah's Ark 3D also works great on it as well though games like Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts still had glitches in them such as the serpent boss in level 3 being invisible and level 4 being completely pitch black. Super Game Boy works okay but the audios are hit or miss. PAL games aren't supported through this console though so if you want to play games from that region you aren't getting it, just get the Classiq II 2-in-1, one of them crappy Retrons HD or the Gamerz Tek 2-in-1 HD if you want that.
@retro_player_22 PAL games are supported, I tested that with this unit.
I would expect Famicom to work with an adapter.
Though my "adapter" was a Game Genie with the official adapter someone ripped from an early NES cart which I used a lot before I suspect it eventually messed up the pins on my front-loader.
Sounds like one should stick with the original Minis, or one/both of the official Minis instead, then. :/
Hm. Makes me remember all I used to want back in the day was a Retro Duo. I wonder if they've improved it since then.
...I still have the unused Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt cartridge I bought 7 years ago...
@Damo It not matters to me otherwise since I don't live in that region but if you say it works then I guess whoever is listening may take your words for it.
What's the difference between system on a chip and FGPA? Is this emulation (i.e. like the Retron5 where it gets the ROMs from the carts) or does this play the games direct from the carts with no emulation? The fact it plays flashcarts makes me think the latter, but you mention emulation.
Sorry for all the questions! Just seems an interesting piece of kit. I'd be keen to see comparison videos vs. other clones and real hardware
The SNES Classic Mini lives up to its name, as its retro, cool and has great classic games that everyone loves.
Plus, there are some great Black Friday deals available on the SNES Classic Mini here: https://snesclassicmini.yolasite.com/
Plus, http://technews.center/snes-classic-mini/
Yeesh. Feel like I need to take a shower after reading that.
@retro_player_22 would probably matter to those who do live in PAL regions though wouldn’t it, before giving out false factoids and all that 👌
@FourBs I'm not saying the guy was wrong since I'm from NTSC, also own this system, and don't have any PAL games. So before you let out your ugly tongue go get the system and try it out yourself. The system doesn't have a region switch unlike the Retron HD and SupaBoy S so that's why I assume it won't work with PAL games but since Damo says it works I'll just let his words speak for the system itself.
@retro_player_22
I think you'll find, you were trying to undermine what the reviewer was saying with false information, you 'assume' it wouldn't play PAL carts yet up on the first comment, you were sure it didn't play PAL carts ..
"PAL games aren't supported through this console though so if you want to play games from that region you aren't getting it, just get the Classiq II 2-in-1, one of them crappy Retrons HD or the Gamerz Tek 2-in-1 HD if you want that"
Please, please don't spread false information and then get all tailspun when you get called out for it, you just repeated what the reviewer said pretty much point by point, so tell me what was the point in even leaving a comment when these people are professional reviewers. I don't need to try the system out - I listened to the review, it isn't for me, if you'll let the words speak for the system itself, please feel free not to add a half-baked amateur review in the comment section, yes?
@FourBs Okay dad!
These system on a chip consoles are mostly garbage.
@ThanosReXXX Sure I understand that point and I agree. It's just these clones usually aren't worth near what their asking price is. £80 is a bit ridiculous. What is that like $90-$95, for a clone Nes and Snes?! You could get both original systems for $100 easily. Sure it may not be as crisp on an HD screen but it will be much more reliable and still look fine. Also, alot of people prefer to play retro games on CRT tv's which are super cheap. I have a great one I got at a garage sale for $5. So once again, you have a valid point. I just feel like anyone who's a stickler for retro game performance, isn't going to be looking into clone system-on-a-chip consoles anyway.
@GravyThief System on a chip, is a chip that tries to clone all of the NES/SNES chips features, but using only one cheap chip. The chip is not the same as the original chips in the old consoles. These always have poor emulation, because old systems like this had so many different programming tricks and cartridges had add on chips sometimes. Almost all System on a chip consoles have errors with sound. All of them released to date cannot play every game released for the consoles, especially where homebrews, hacks, new games, translations, and games with weird chipsets are concerned.
FPGA, is a field programmable gate array. These are chips which basically reprogram themselves to be exact replicas of the chips used on classic consoles. These systems can be a bit more expensive than competitors, but they play absolutely everything a real console can play, and exactly as a real console would play it. Currently the only mainstream systems that use this are the $185 Retro USB AVS, and the $449 Analogue NT Mini. Both of which only play NES cartridges (Although the NT Mini can play older systems ROMs (example: Atari 2600) via SD card, due to community support). The Analogue Super Nt which plays SNES games is currently up for preorder at $190.
The Retron 5 uses software emulation. It is basically a computer running a custom OS that allows you to dump your ROMS from your cartridges onto the computer, and then it uses a software emulator similar to (actually sometimes exactly the same illegally stolen code) your home PC to play the games. It has the potential to run every game for supported systems, but that all depends on the systems software being updated. As of right now the Retron 5 supports many more games than a system on a chip console would, but it doesn't support all games one could potentially play, such as new games released in the last few years, new translations, new hacks, ETC. They do update the system a lot with popular games, but many obscure games that have been out for years are still not supported and probably never will be. The Retron 5 suffers from the same problems as any other computer software emulation, sometimes there are unintended glitches, sometimes sound is wrong, sometimes colors are wrong. The advantage is many consoles in one system, and many customize-able features in the software.
@jbopatrick wow thanks for that, that's really good info. Much appreciated. I think I would only ever be interested in the FGPA clones, as the others sound too inaccurate for how I like to retro game, and I really don't like software emulation at all. And the chance of issues with certain games is too high for me. I'm very happy with my original AV Famicom, but I do like to keep up to date on the latest in the clone world. I'm still surprised flash carts work on this though, given it's a system on a chip, you'd think they wouldn't.
Show Comments
Leave A Comment
Hold on there, you need to login to post a comment...