At recent events in New York City and London we got to spend some time with Nintendo’s newly announced New 2DS XL. The announcement came as a surprise, as many were expecting Nintendo to let the 3DS go quietly into the night as the Switch came to replace it, putting to an end the company’s days of manufacturing separate home and portable consoles.
The New Nintendo 2DS XL’s design borrows from the 3DS line, eschewing the wedge found in the regular 2DS for the clamshell style that has defined the DS line since its inception. The most noticeable difference between the New 2DS XL and the other members of the 3DS family is the look of the top of the device. It has a ribbed design surrounded by a bumper of sorts made of colourful blue plastic, in a way that’s somewhat reminiscent of the design of the Wii mini. We here at Nintendo Life are divided on the design, but your humble scribe did think it looked quite striking in person.
On the other side of that clamshell is the 2DS XL’s new display, which is much larger than that found on the 2DS. It’s a nice-looking screen, with decent brightness and colour. In fact, it even stood up quite well to our Switch’s display, which is no slouch. The bezel surrounding the display is also featureless, which is a good thing. There are no speaker grilles or sliders to speak of, thus removing all distractions from the action on-screen. It looks a bit like a smartphone turned on its side; it’s one of the nicest pieces of design we’ve seen in a Nintendo console to date.
The lower half of the New 2DS XL is made of what feels to be a soft-touch plastic. It isn’t quite rubberized, but doesn’t feel slick or slippery and feels more comfortable in the hand than the 3DS XL - that said, the black finish does appear to collect fingerprints quite easily, something the white version coming to Japan and PAL territories likely won't have an issue with. The buttons and sticks are exactly the same as those found on the more expensive New 3DS XL, but with a splash of colour to match the New 2DS XL’s new aesthetic.
The gentle curves of the body make for a console that feels like it’ll be comfortable for extended play sessions, and the whole thing feels to be significantly lighter than a New 3DS XL despite packing the same hardware under the hood. There’s seemingly no sacrifice being made to get the console this light, either; Nintendo’s signature build quality is alive and well with the New 2DS XL. The units we tested all felt rigid and sturdy, never once giving the impression that any design concessions were made.
Nintendo also took this opportunity to make some design changes to the 3DS formula, giving the New 2DS XL some tweaks that would be welcome on its more expensive brother as well. For starters, the micro SD card slot has been moved to the front of the console, removing the need for a screwdriver when you need to change your memory card. The game card slot is right next to it, but now Nintendo has thrown a cover on it that we’re not totally sold on. In the short time we had with the console the cover felt a little difficult to remove, though this writer has a similar gripe with the Switch as well. It does, however, make for a nice clean presentation when the cover is on as the black finish is uninterrupted by a stark white card being in the console.
Next to the card slot are the stylus and headphone jack, both of which feel well placed. The volume slider, on the other hand, has been moved to the left-hand side of the console’s lower portion. For some that could be a problem as we see the potential for unintended volume adjustments during tense gaming sessions.
We only had the opportunity to play Nintendo’s New 2DS XL for a short while, but we liked what we saw. The screen is a stand-out, even standing up well when compared to the New 3DS XL and the Switch. The changes made to the design seem thoughtful, and while we pointed out some potential pitfalls, we didn’t personally experience them in our short hands-on experience. We’ll need more time with the New 2DS XL before we can formally recommend it, but what we can tell you is that it looks to be a worthy addition to the 3DS lineup.
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New New 2DS lol. "From here on out, no girlfriend or girlfriend talk at practice. Whether they're old, new, or new new."
Regardless of whether this thing was necessary or not, I do think it's a really nice looking handheld. They obviously were going for that cell phone look when it's closed.
Edit: It still should only be $120 though.
well mines on pre order with £10 off code from NL a £119 is a bargain. Cant wait to play shadows of Valentina. Only for simple reason my little girl is called Valentina. Honestly I will tell my wife thats the only reason I bought it really.
Just blows me away that they can sell the ancient technology in this 2D unit for $150. Back in 2011 they estimated that the 3DS, which cost $250 at that time, cost $100 to make. I'd be shocked if this unit, without the 3D screen, a fossil of a CPU and using absolutely archaic touch screen tech, cost Nintendo more than $50 to make six YEARS later.
I know that the 3DS/2DS line has succeeded despite being so low-tech but I still continue to wish the danged thing would just die so we can get a truly new handheld with newer, higher-resolution screens, more memory, and a better processor for better looking games. (Or, god forbid, a SINGLE screen.) I know, however, that the Vita has done poorly despite the fact that it checks all those boxes.
Nintendo's approach reminds me of how Taco Bell prepares food. If you really look at their menu, every "new" item they introduce uses the same ingredients in every other recipe. All they do is change the configuration, slap a new name on it, and sell it as an exciting new product. The 3DS line is truly ancient in tech-years, but here they are again with another remix and they'll inevitably sell millions. Brilliant business, of course, but frustrating to folks like me who can't stand the form factor but have recently enjoyed getting back into gaming with the (much less portable) Switch.
A Banana ?
Oh ... for scale.
Is the resolution better?
There's no reason to make a 3DS without the 3D if it doesn't improve resolution substantially. I'm tired of the 3DS line's awful screen resolution.
That banana looks quite relaxed chilling with that N2DS XL. I quite like the design, especially the more accessible Micro SD card.
The New Nintendo 2DS XL - 100% compatible with all pot plants and bananas.
New 2DS XL & Banana ?
Hm.... so sexy...
Anyway, where is the speaker ?
Don't tell me it located on the lower screen...
@Anti-Matter It's the 2 slits on the bottom right and left corners of the bottom half.
@Anti-Matter Bottom corners, on the front edges. The closed view of the white model makes them very visible.
@AirElephant That estimate is wrong though. When they cut the price, Nintendo was selling it at a loss, which means that the 3DS costed more than 170 dollars to make in 2011. The new 3DS and new 2DS also make use of faster CPU's compared to the old ones and other improvements. Sure, they are making a profit on these, but it most definitely isn't as big as you say. It probably costs about 100 dollars to make, as it uses big screens and includes an AC adapter and such.
I wonder what makes it lighter than the N3DSXL? Those are kind of heavy bricks. I assume it's not the screen as the weight feels like it's all in the bottom.
What do we know about the battery in the N2DSXL? I'm betting the weight difference comes down to a much smaller battery (it can be smaller with the same run time since it's not powering the 3D.)
What is WITH Nintendo and the card slot covers? Was there a known problem with card slots on the 3DS before? N2DSXL has the cover, Switch has the cover, Vita had the cover. Why? All that cover is going to do on these machines is snap off for frequent physical buyers, and then we're going to be stuck with an even BIGGER open slot because it was meant for a cover! Granted my 3DS is fine without the cover, so will my Switch be, but It'll bug me all the time once it snaps off
What are the odds that we get a dual screen Switch in a couple of years.... with a 3DS cartridge slot? The SwitchDS.
@gcunit I'll already be happy with a normal Switch with a 3DS slot that can be held in portrait mode though !
If it's lighter, I'd think they have more room in the system. If so, I wish they'd have put a bigger battery in there. I'm assuming it has roughly the same battery life as the rest of the 3ds line because they'd use it as a marketing point if the battery was bigger
@Tarvaax No, the resolution is not better and nor would a single one of the 1,000+ games for the 3DS/2DS look any better anyways. At least not without a huge update to the game which extremely few developers would even consider doing. I think a lower priced 2D XL is a great idea, but I have to agree with someone else here that mentioned that it should be $129.99.
As much as I love how Nintendo design these portable, I think the colors that they choose seem a bit lacking or uninteresting. I mean c'mon the blueish black version of the New 2DS reminds me of this thing:
A lot of people lost their mind about this new 2DS XL. It's just a cheaper version of a massivly popular handheld that still has a LOT of backing and support from the devs and community. Ofc they would bring out another, more affordable version. And as many have already noted, the regular N3DS/XL is sold out in a lot of stores and has not seen any restock.
I hope they use the IPS panels (not the TN panels).
Can NintendoLife confirm whether they are IPS or TN panels?
While I don't need the new updated system, I'm really tempted to give it a try. I love my New 3DS XL a lot but I feel like it could be much lighter and sleeker much like the N2DS XL seems to be. (It doesn't fit in my pocket so well)
@pokedmund I'll see if that info's out there, if not then it'll be something to clarify when it comes out I suspect.
@retro_player_22 bloody hell if the build quality is the same im sending mine straight back to amazon
i like the idea that the cartridge slot is covered. that means that it will be harder for dust and dirt to get in the slot. I wish the New 3DS line had that. It would make my portable last longer.
@neufel And as a nod to Iwata-san.
The real question:
Is the screen IPS? It can be a gamble on all the 3DS. If you're lucky you get IPS, if not then a regular LCD. Unlike any other companies, Nintendo uses 2 different type of display for their product.
@retro_player_22 The colors might be the same, but the build quality of Nintendo handhelds is around a tenfold better. Those AtGames handhelds are utter crap.
@ThanosReXXX Damn, I totally forgot that bit. His presentations were always so quirky and fun.
@neufel Well, here you go then:
Photographic proof their systems really do print money!
I think I'll pass on this since I already have enough 3DS systems. The one I like best is the small New 3DS. If ever that breaks, I might look for one of these, but otherwise, I'm sticking. Looks good though.
@Amsterdamsters Sure they would. Have you not seen what they look like on emulators? The awful pixelation is gone. You're confusing screen resolution with texture resolution, my friend.
Looks cheap, fat, and fugly imo.
@Tarvaax I'm not confusing anything my friend. Running through an emulator with filters on is completely different then Nintendo just upping the resolution on the screen in the New 2DS XL. Nintendo never goes that route, otherwise all of the VC games on the Wii U would have the option to have improved visuals. 3DS games are programmed in their native resolution on the upper screen of 400 x 240 in 2D. Making the resolution of the screen say 800 x 480 would not make the games look better unless the games were updated to take advantage of the higher resolution or they put a super powerful processor in the thing that could re-render the 3d models to make them look a little better. If you want better visuals then what the 3DS/2DS offers, but a Switch.
Thanks to that banana, I now know exactly how big the new 2DS xl is!
I cannot tell you the amount of time I have had a game card eject while carring it in my pocket. That has been hours of gameplay lost in Xenoblade Chronicles.
I am happy to hear that they added a cover to the game card slot.
@Anguspuss Hate to break it to you, but it's Shadows of Valentia, not Valentina.
$200 in Canada and that's just too much.
@Amsterdamsters The Switch doesn't have Pokemon, and Game Freak refuses to leave a console until it's dead.
@Tarvaax DS games don't look any better on the 3DS, they actually look worse because of the higher resolution.
Why. Why. Why.
As a Switch owner, if I could have any of the current 3DS line, I think it'd still be the standard "new" one. It has an advantage in portability, and obviously "3D" over the Switch. If you make a device big (with no resolution improvement), and remove the 3D effect, you're stripping away the main things that a set the console apart from its 'hybrid' sibling.
Still, I think the design is reasonably nice, and it might find some popularity with a certain audience. I'm not exactly sure what the audience is, but it probably exists.
I like the white and orange one. Having purchased every iteration of the 3ds (excluding the original 2ds) I will pass this time. Still, a nice looking system, great for little ones.
All those comparison photos, and not one that compares it to a 3DS XL?
I will always be a fan of game slot covers, even ones that are hard to remove. I've had so many games pop out in my pocket because there wasn't something keeping them in.
@AirElephant just like the 2ds, it will probably go down in price pretty fast. Maybe to $100 during holidays with a bundled game while the new 3ds XL will go down to $150.
Not surprised much by this. When they originally announced the New 3DS, I wondered what that meant for the 2DS as a product.
This is pretty low risk. Can't imagine they cost much to make, so the break even point is low. This is obviously an attempt to sustain the DS just a LITTLE bit longer. I don't think it's even a question that the Switch Mini will be the next portable... as soon as the Switch is established as a console and has a sufficient library.
@Dan_Dan yes and I have never gotten into the Nintendo 3DS however there is about 10 games that are really good that I really want to play and this is the system I'm going to buy, however I wish they would have gotten rid of the cameras and saved a little more money
I'd rather get more New 3DS available.
Can we discuss the fact that Nintendo FINALLY fixed the screen scratch issue with this one? The 4 3ds' clam shells would always scratch their own screen after a while. That alone makes me want one.
Pass. Gotta have me that amazing 3D display.
Also...is it backwards compatible with all fruit or just bananas?
@AirElephant In fairness, Sony of America killed the Vita by refusing to market the system adequately, and keeping so many games exclusive to Japan. There's no value in getting a Vita now because it's fairly pricey for what it's worth, and the software lineup is nowhere as appealing as the Nintendo 3DS.
This is fantastic. I can't wait to get mine in July!
Getting it!
Love the idea of the cover to the game card slot. Yeah the Switch has it, too, but I carry that in a case. I find that the game card in my 3DS occasionally pops out while in my pocket. I usually save my game before closing it but one of these days, I'm going to end up losing progress.
I've had time to digest the New 2DS XL since the announcement and now I can see the appeal, it's very sleek looking. However, I still don't see myself picking one up. I love the 3D too much, enjoy the smaller form factor of the New 3DS, am a fan of the coloured ABXY buttons, and the $200 Canadian pricetag is unappealing. Yeah they need to adjust because of the weak dollar, but our wages up here don't scale. Maybe one day if it's super cheap, it would be a nice collector's item.
Is this the London event? Because from the trailer, it seems the US isn't getting the white/gold color.
I hate the xl size. Way too bulky. I might pick up a normal new 3ds for $99 like the Black Friday. I really don't see why they don't offer it normally instead of with overpriced bundles.
@AirElephant Haha enjoyed that Taco Bell analogy! Completely take your point on it being overpriced too. At $200, the New 3DS XL feels really expensive considering its age. You can find current gen home consoles for the same price. So launching the New 2DS XL at $150 definitely seems a bit much. I don't think I'm ready for Nintendo to let the DS fade away just yet, though! I still get a lot of use out of mine and would welcome the continued support. The strength of the games library is enough to justify its existence, regardless of the old technology. Besides, I think it would be incredibly, not to mention counterproductive, for Nintendo to market a brand new next generation handheld with the Switch so recently launched.
If Etrian Odyssey V gets announced for NA, I'm in. I'd love to hear about the screens. The IPS New 3DS screens are much better than the TN ones. I would hope New 2DS XL has even better screens because they lack 3D.
@ThomasBW84 One thing that I'm genuinely curious about is if the top screen will contract any smudge marks/lines from the bottom screen. That was a big problem with the launch model 3ds where the bottom screen would literally scratch the top display due to a lack of protection. I didn't notice any rubber bumpers on the top screen so I'm a bit concerned that it will be a problem once again
@diditall4tanooki
That's totally fair. I wish I could have joined in with the 3DS generation. I bought both the small version and XL versions but ended up passing them to each of my sons because I just couldn't find a comfortable grip. (I have long fingers and I find both the analog nub and the D-Pad too close to the left side to get a grip without holding the 3DS with my fingertips.)
I respect that Nintendo has sold so many, and that it has an incredibly deep library. I just was never sold on that lower screen as an "essential" part of the experience, though I'm sure many would disagree with me.
I'm a middle-aged guy that still thinks portable gaming's zenith came with the Game Boy Advance SP and I wish Nintendo would again release a compact, single-screen handheld for players (fossils?) like me. It's not that I can't keep up with the two screens, but rather that I wish Nintendo would sink the costs of two low-res screens into one glorious, big HD screen as with the Switch.
I'm funny in that I think the Switch is much better as a tabletop or TV-based system than it is as a handheld. I love the idea of throwing up the kickstand and handing a JoyCon to a friend so we can do some Super Street Fighter battles on an airplane. But as a handheld, I'd rather play something half its size with a nice 6" 2K screen and a solid, if not spectacular, GPU.
Again, I know the Vita tried that and failed. I think that hardware matters less than affordability and library to most players. I also think that unlike the home hardware market, where Nintendo basically ceded the race to Sony and Microsoft, they've never taken their eye off the ball on handhelds. I'd just love to see Nintendo bring out a top-notch, single-screen handheld with HD rumble and all the trimmings. But then again, I don't sign the checks at NOJ.
Just read the stylus is even shorter in the New 2DS XL, which was already cut short in the New 3DS XL. The thing is a stub now lol. What happened to the good old days of DSi stylus size? It's so bad on New 3DS models I had to order special retractable styli specially designed for New 3DS and New 3DS XL...
Also read the screen is worse than New 3DS XL, due to being more reflective. Yaaaa... I'm gonna stick with my New 3DS models. I never bought 2DS, and despite this being an upgrade from that, it's still a downgrade from what I have.
@AirElephant
I'd just love to see Nintendo bring out a top-notch, single-screen handheld with HD rumble and all the trimmings
Mmhmm, mmhmm... so basically something like this 😉
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This might have been mentioned but to everyone complaining about the price, this does come with a charger whereas the new 3DS XL doesn't not. It's not a huge difference; chargers are only like $10 but still, just thought I'd point that out.
@AirElephant
But.... isn't the Switch the nice, big handheld with HD screen? You may not see it as such, but everything you want is currently available. And, well, they can't make a higher resolution screen because that would kill the battery in a moment. With 720p it barely lasts three hours, with 2K? It wouldn't make it to ten minutes.
Battery tech is still stuck on the same ion-lithium, what has improved is energy saving mode.
@zionich ugh tell me about it. i only pocket mine when i bring it to work but i always save and exit to the home menu before i do
@Luna_110
I know others disagree and feel the Switch is a good size for a handheld, but I'm okay in the minority. I think it's too big to use comfortably for extended periods, and then only for about four hours untethered to a power source before the battery dies.
I'd much, much prefer a handheld at half the size with a more efficient processor and screen that can last ten hours or more. And I'd prefer a left D-pad that isn't a series of closely-spaced, individual buttons.
Look, the Switch is an amazing console. It's gotten me to play games again after I stopped after the GameCube. But I think that many compromises were made so that it could fit dual roles. While I think it makes an amazing TV-based console and a terrific portable multiplayer display in tabletop mode, I think it's only an OK handheld system.
I think Nintendo can introduce a true Game Boy successor and not negate the multifaceted abilities of the Switch.
@AirElephant this guy gets it.
Nintendo knows the lot of you are fools.
Any word on the battery life for this baby?
I won't buy another 3DS, personally, and for those that might be about to buy their first, at the current price and build quality I'd say just get a New 3DS XL over this. Maybe if New 2DS XL drops to $99, then it would be okay.
I want it even though i feel it's price should be 99-129$
@Paddle1 Nintendo also employ a deflicker blur in DS mode on 3DS to make matters worse. Atleast if they left it we would have sharp pixels but No!
@JaxonH You shoulda used a game that actually has HD Rumble in your picture to make the point better
Folks is fickled.
Give them a pink, purple or blue switch and people would call it a toy, ie the GameCube. Give them a two tone grey (real manly) look and they customise it with bright colours. As long as there is a monotone colour (real gamers 😁)for the 2ds the other colours will attract more gamers.
I wonder if the Switch has the technology to view a game in 3d, say the new Fire Emblem 3ds, if downloaded to the Switch. They would be the icing on the proverbial cake.
Reminder that Nintendo claimed they didn't have the production facilities to keep making NES Classics but are now pumping out this monstrosity.
Pass. Already had a 3ds, 2ds, 3dsxl, and a n3dsxl. Only have the n3dsxl left and I haven't touched it since getting my switch. Unless a new Zelda or similar caliber game comes out, I'm done with it. Pikmin is the only game I'm getting for it and it will be physical incase it isn't worth keeping.
Just give me switch games.
Not at this price. Not when you can pick up a New 3DS for a few quid more, if not equally priced should you shop around.
@AirElephant lmao I said the same thing about taco Bell for years! I thought I was trippin lol. It's all the same ish!!
When I upgraded to the N3DS I was amazed at the better resolution and the colours in games that had been washed out on the XL. The size works better for my hands, too.
The 3d is much better. The only problem I have is sometimes at nite if there is a light on in the room it reflects off my glasses and things go a bit wonky. I don't get headaches or nausea like I sometimes did from playing the original XL.
I've had no issue with scratches on the screen from the top.
@AirElephant Ha sounds like we're of the same demographic, my friend! I was a HUGE fan of the GBA - especially the SP. I still play it to this day (literally played it today) and I'm just always so amazed by the battery life. It's still my go to if I'm grabbing a handheld to take out and about for the day, whereas I tend to play my 3DS around the house or on longer trips, such as flights or long train journeys. Like you, I'd definitely like to see a current generation take on the GBA but with so many portable options from Nintendo alone, I just don't see a significant market for it in which they wouldn't be directly competing with their own products.
Initially, I wasn't sold on the DS concept either. When it was first announced I thought it was gimmicky and the first model was so ugly (especially compared to the GBA SP). It wasn't until they released the DS Lite in 2006 that I jumped on board. To an extent, I think you've got a point with the criticism of the two screens. Almost 15 years on and there's still developers that aren't using the second screen in a meaningful way. Although, I accept, part of that is because certain genres/games don't really require two screens, which I guess is pretty much your argument. I would say that my experience with some games have been truly enhanced with the constant presence of a map or inventory, for example. So in that sense, I do like the second screen. However, with Nintendo abandoning the WiiU gamepad screen I wouldn't be surprised to see them revert to a single screen on their next line of portables. If, indeed, there will be another one.
@AlphaJaguar Salt and Sanctuary is the reason I am still gladI kept my Vita
I'd like to meet the fool who thought a nipple for an analog stick would be a good idea.
@liveswired Really? I thought the games were only blurry because they were blown up for the higher resolution. If you hold start or select I believe when opening a DS game it plays in native resolution which does look clearer.
@EternalDragonX I think it's a great idea! I love playing around with them! Er, the joystick I mean. Best kind ever made.
On top of all the times I've had 3DS cards pop out in my pocket and the way it makes for a smoother nicer looking exterior, I recently realized card slot covers also make a lot of sense now that more people are buying digital games — a lot of people might not ever even own any 3DS or Switch cartridges, so it makes sense to have a way to keep dust out of there.
Game card cover is a good idea. I have a nasty habit of resting my fingers on the game card of my N3DSXL and sometimes it pops out, losing my progress.
@AirElephant
"...so we can get a truly new handheld with newer, higher-resolution screens, more memory, and a better processor for better looking games. (Or, god forbid, a SINGLE screen.) I know, however, that the Vita has done poorly despite the fact that it checks all those boxes."
Have you been living under a rock for the last 8 months?? Or is this sarcasm??
This is okay, I see why Nintendo does this.
It's slightly risky, considering they just launched the Switch, but as they will continue to support the 3DS and even more so the New 3DS it's kind of logical.
They want to make New 3DS exclusive titles.
The New 3DS is rather expensive, but The New 2DS is a cheaper alternative for those who never got a New 3DS because it was too expensive. Making everyone move to the "New 3DS / 2DS" will probably result in a good income for Nintendo. And there will be less complaints when they start launching titles exclusive to "New 3DS / 2DS". As Pokémon still only exists on 3DS-series maybe the next Pokémon game will require a "New 3DS / 2DS" and I think a lot of players would upgrade for Pokémon.
Nintendo probably considers 3DS too different from the Switch for this to cause problems for the Switch.
I also believe that parents might be more willing to buy their kid a "New 3DS / 2DS" than a Switch...
@AirElephant Let's stop quoting that number as if it was verified. People estimated those numbers and often use inferior or generic parts or comparing off the shelf parts to custom ones when coming up with part prices, they also don't include manufacturing, shipping, or advertising into the price. I'm not trying to claim I know what the system costs, but the figure quoted back then was far from realistic.
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