We've been mentioning Switch so much that we have Will Smith's family friendly rapping stuck in our heads, but that's a hazard of the job. After weeks (or months?) of constant "where's NX" remarks in social media, Nintendo can now say "HERE IT IS" in an exasperated tone.
It feels like we've already deconstructed all we can from the reveal, so maybe we should step back from the technical details and just take a look at the system. Thanks to this lovely 3D model by an artist called shaderbytes; using the embed below (assuming your device and browser support it) you can rotate and zoom the view of the Switch console.
It's a neat render, and a nice nod to Splatoon fans too after the game featured in the preview trailer.
So, what do you think, do you like the look of it?
With thanks to Donni for the heads up.
[source sketchfab.com, via polygon.com]
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Neat.
One word... AMAZING!
PRESSURE SENSITIVE TRIGGERS !!!
''YOU GOT BOOST POWER !!!''
Where is the 3D slider? T_T
It looks pretty cool. But I'm pretty curious as to what the lower part of the NS looks like. What kind of connector it has to the other unit and all, so we can have a better understanding of it all. Guess nobody knows that yet...
Would this mean we get analog triggers?
I don't see a memory card slot anywhere (except the game card slot). Also no USB port. Is there no way of increasing the internal storage of the device? And no way of plugging in an external power source for on-the-go gaming?
A micro sd slot could be hidden. And Nintendo could make available an extra battery pack that fixes onto the bottom, but I'd like to know.
@A01 Yeah, that too. But I mean, even the 3DSs have it, this is probably covered. (I hope... I mean, I trust Nintendo... but, yeah)
I worry about the connector because in the trailer people just put it and remove it from the cradle neatly, but on the day to day things can be different, if the connector is fragile it could be an issue.
Would be a shame if it doesn't have some kinda SD card that's easy to access since the first thing I wanna do is slap the biggest one I can find inside it. Imagine if we needed to be in range of the dock station to access any downloaded games... would be pretty weak as that would mean basically being forced into buying physical copies and also carrying them around at all times. I'd much rather go all digital this time around. I'm sure we'll have a user-replacable SD and a touch screen... right guys?
@Captain_Gonru Checking the trailer video, when the cartridge is being pushed into the slot, you can see an extra cover that is probably for sd just by the headphone jack.
Edit: Looks like just part of the casing.
Impressive. MOST impressive.
@A01 I did see in the reveal video what might be an SD card under the kickstand.
Taken from the trailer. There's clearly something under the headphone jack.
Edit: Looks like just part of the casing, a deceiving angle.
I'm still trying to figure out how the Joy Cons slide out. It can't just be a case of pulling up, since that means the screen would keep dropping away from the sides whenever you lifted it. Is there a release button on this thing?
@TheHumbleFellow You have that - and + buttons on the top of each controllers.
Nice 👍🏼
nicely done. yep it looks thicker than any tablet i've ever seen. i guess/hope that means it's chock full of battery and hopefully internal storage.
@TheHumbleFellow This is one place where this model is missing something shown clearly (but quickly) in the video. There are small circular buttons on the backside that I'm guessing are used for unlocking the joy-cons.
Nintendo Vita.
I'm down.
@Jamotello Right.
Like you are saying, this isn't a tablet. It's a dedicated gaming device.
It is also built around the idea of having controllers attached (almost always) and docking to a TV while using remote game controllers made specifically for the one device. Most tablets add things like this as an afterthought at best.
The Nvidia Shield line was the closest thing previously but they had no game publisher and/or game developer clout to support it in a meaningful way (games that are good for TV and portable by design). That's why the Switch really is new and different, even with what has been shown so far. (Even more so with the multiplayer on the go with one device)
Even if it has tablet-like touch and apps we aren't seeing those yet. Don't want anybody to equate it with all those multi-purpose (thin) tablets that happen to have games.
It's bigger than a pocket already, it could stand to be thicker, in my opinion. More battery life, more power, less heat. On the other hand, it does need to look sleek.
Another still from a different angle looks less convincing. Is that a headphone symbol? I don't know.
Wow !
@A01 Yeah, I think you're right. There is something under the kickstand, though. Again, not really very clear. Nintendo could just tell us... I can't believe there isn't an sd card slot somewhere.
hopefully the Switch doesn't end up with Nintendo only style SD cards like the Vita. They should include a 32GB SD card with the system (like the Wii U storage) and allow up to 256GB especially as I see this being a system pushing for digital purchases on the go.
Excited to see how this plays out.
Wow! It's fun to look at this in the First-Person Mode!
Where are the buttons bottom?
People this a great 3D render but it is missing features. Not because of neglect but because we weren't shown all angles of the Switch in the reveal video, most notably the bottom. And there's obviously a charging port on the bottom for when it's sat in the home dock.
@sakura I find it hard to believe they wouldn't put a micro sd card slot on it somewhere.. maybe on the bottom? i guess we haven't really got a good look under the system yet.
@Clownshoes Good thing Nintendo isn't interested in pushing its own proprietary memory cards, huh?
The screen looks vibrant on the Switch, so I'm hoping Nintendo is producing these with more care than they did the DS/3DS generation. They really need to now that they're going back to one unprotected screen on the handheld portion of their new console.
It is looking good. I'm not worried. It is beautiful. I love that 3d perspective that you all gave us. The only thing I was looking for was the memory or SD slot. I cannot find it.
Edit I guess everyone is talking about the memory card.😃
I Love IT! But where is the dpad???
@daggdroppen
Where indeed . . .
@Neeeko @SLIGEACH_EIRE Yeah, you're right, it is actually a good render and a bit unfair of me to question what's not shown given the little information out there. Sd/memory slot must be there somewhere and probably a way to charge on-the-go too.
We all know they are going to have one. We just don't want to unscrew the darn system just to get to it.
The million dollar question for the Switch is the battery life.
Wow, neat
Are those analog triggers?
Love the fact that the headphone jack is above, and it's got the mini stand.
Although with all the Switch Hype, NintendoLife didn't report that the Japanese Voice Patch got added to Azure Striker Gunvolt as Update 1.3 on the 20th of October. So if anyone reads this, heads up!
The base has 2 USB Ports that can be used to plug an external drive for extra space kind of like the Wii U.
It has a headphone jack, so it is already better than the IPhone 7.
Your turn, Apple.
I really hope those are analog triggers, that was something heavily missed in luigi's mansion 2 compared to the first. It would also mean a Sunshine sequel-remake a la 64DS is on the table as a possibility for the first time ever.
Does anyone else think they look like variable triggers?
PS I dislike the inaccurate term analogue triggers, and think variable is a much more fitting and explanatory term.
@LasermasterA
Hey, Adept, long time no see!
Excited to see the camera lens at the bottom of the unit. Would be cool to have a video chat option like the Wii U does.
@foodmetaphors omg i never thought about that yeah if ur going digital which is what im planning to do you need a usb hard drive since its home console games which is 50gb+ and sd cards definitely cant work so the usb drive has to connect to the dock since you cant bring your hard drive on the go with you obviously ok this is confusing lol
@_ijin 256gb can only fit less than 10 home console games so thats a problem
i just realized that the d pad is so screwed up..
@daggdroppen
The D-pad is actually located on the bottom Left. See four buttons with four directions ? That's the D-pad. And if you use the Joy Con Left as wireless controler, analog button will acts like D-Pad while the D-pad buttons will acts like ABXY Buttons. Cool, isn't it ?
@Sakura There is no pictures of the bottom of the console and in the trailer Nintendo was very careful not to show the bottom... I would like to know if they are using standard USB C charging connector or if they have gone custom contact points for charging which in my opinion would be a mistake as I would like to be able to use a battery pack.
Also games are coming on cartridges so storage should not be an issue and they could simply sell an empty/storage cartridge for games to be downloaded onto.
@PilksUK Yeah, you're right. I'm still not sure it will be on the bottom, though, given that that's how it connects to the dock. Could be, though.
Storage will be important if the eshop is maintained. I think it will be as that is the most convenient way to distribute indie and smaller games. I've recently had to upgrade a 32GB sd card for N3DS to 64GB because I'd run out of space and I buy all games I can physically. That's 5 years worth of games, but anyone who wants mainly digital purchases will be stuck without external media, especially if we really are to get ports of some AAA games.
An empty cartridge is a possiblity. That might make piracy harder if it can't be easily connected to a PC, but it's also more expense for the consumer. I've thought about the OS and whether access to something like the Play Store is possible. Although I'd love that - to be able to use it as a conventional tablet - I don't think it likely because it would be easy to crack.
Lots of things still to be determined. I guess they may still be tinkering with specs. Not really sure why they won't confirm basic details like touchscreen or not. Could be just to differentiate from the Wii U for the time being.
@GraveLordXD
I think the four buttons of D-pad will acts as a traditional D-pad when attached on either Switch console or Joy Con Grip. But when detached, it will acts like "Wii mote". If you see from the trailer, the two guys who played Mario Kart 8+, was using the Left Joy Con as wireless controler, much like Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo Dungeon Wii also ( Have two options to use Wii mote Vertically or Horizontal).
@GraveLordXD even if its 1tb sd card its expensive and could be easily corrupted and its slower too so that aint working, so the only option is usb drives, the reason why wii u games have low storage is because the discs only allows 25gb max ( thats why when i got xenoblade x on disc i have to download an addition 10gb to make loading times faster ).. plus most 3rd party games are 50gb+ AND THAT AINT WORKING WITH SD CARDS IDK LETS JUST SEE HOW NINTENDO CAN EXPLAIN THIS ON JANUARY MY BRAIN HURTS >_<
I'm not going to lie, I'd be impressed if this thing got more than 2 hours of battery life. I'm really hoping for 3-4 hours (obviously even more would be better).
Aside from that, this could very well be my first digital only system... if only it wasn't so much more expensive!
@wiggleronacid i think it should be 5 hours... if more then cool but 5 hours should be their goal
@hieveryone I'd be 100% sold if it was that long. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
I wonder how easy it would be to accidentally hit the trigger buttons when using the controller sideways? Also, controllers appear small and don't know how comfortable that would be in my hands...especially when one of your thumbs has to reach over to use either the analogue stick or buttons depending on which end of the controller you're using
@PilksUK I'm going with a contact surface, a la 3DS. It would be pretty hard to slot the tablet into a little USB slot in the dock if you can't see it.
I'm hoping for rewritable blank Switch cartridges. Almost like the Famicom Disk System or the R4 DS cards. Could load up 1 AAA or a few Indies. It would look like this, just bigger obviously.
It would be cool if Nintendo could supply sticker paper and printable game cartridge stickers for your printer.
This is top stuff. Of course you cannot render what isn't known, but everything we can know is in here.
I love it.
Now the wait to hold the actual thing begins!
This may be a stupid question.. but are cartridges better than discs?? To me cartridges are old technology so I don't know how this can have tons of power in it.. I don't think I'm explaining myself well haha
It's not perfect, a few details are slightly off and some stuff is missing entirely, but it's the best example that exists right now so I like it.
@gloom
Cartridges have always been faster, but the switch to discs was to hold more data originally. Brutal load times though.
Now the "switch" back to cartridges is because:
1. they are much faster load times
2. they actually have comparable capacity or even greater to discs
3. you don't risk damage to an optical drive from carrying it around, throwing it in a bag, etc. from being mobile
IT HAS A HEADPHONE JACK!
Which means it's already better than the iPhone 7 <3
@_ijin Nintendo isn't going to use proprietary memory cards, both the Wii and Wii U as well as the DSi and 3DS all support SD and micoSD cards for memory backup so there's no worry about that. Only reason PS Vita and PSP use proprietary memory cards were because Sony also makes their own memory card to compete against SanDisk, I mean they are an electronic company so it's no surprise they want to make money out of their own product instead of having consumer choosing the competitor's product to run their hardware but Nintendo only makes games so using universal memory card is a mainstay to Nintendo. Nintendo doesn't compete with SanDisk, Kingston, PNY, or Sony in that regard so supporting different universal memory card is not a problem.
@daggdroppen The d-pad is only for the Pro Controller, the regular controller is for casual play only I guess. Those arrow buttons on the left joycon controller doesn't count as a d-pad.
@MadAdam81 Analog triggers ARE analog, though. They use potentiometers to derive their depression value, resulting in a non-quantized signal (position as an analog of time). The signal is then interpreted by the CPU and quantized so it can be used in the game. Variable yes, but also analog by definition.
@gloom
Yep, cartridges are better than discs. Since flash media was created, it has been faster and sturdier than optical media, but couldn't keep up in the 2000's because optical media could achieve much larger storage sizes for much cheaper. Now that the price is coming down for flash media, I could see many companies going back to it--and you should expect much faster load times and much longer lifespans for your cartridge games!
@retro_player_22 Yea I figure Nintendo wouldn't hurt their business with their own SD card branding, but as another user said 10 home console games fit on 32GB SD card I wonder how Nintendo plans to sale Full Size digital games unless it's all shrunk down sizes and keeps the quality.
Personally I'm more of a casual gamer but I do have my favorite games I'd like to keep on the console on the go digitally stored.
Enjoyed the reveal, but it raised more questions than answered.
@Savino I don't use my 3DS camera other than the AR cards, but I find myself using my PS vita for the camera and music player..
I'd hope NSwitch features both to be honest..more AR games and uses for the camera and console the better.
@AlexSora89
Hey there! o/
I am still hoping that there is a Smash Switch, with it mostly being a Wii U Port/Remaster, but with a few characters/stages added.
And you know who I want first and foremost XD
I'm surprised they didn't implement the wireless streaming tech from Wii U in some fashion. It was such a cool technology.
Thought they'd do wireless HDMI with a dongle to any tv. But I suppose with the dock that's not needed. But, maybe as a portable it can also stream to any tv via dongle, aside from the dock, so you can play on a TV anywhere without need of the dock. That would be really freaking cool
@retro_player_22
Idk, D-pads don't look all that different really. I think it can work...
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@LasermasterA
I guess the stage begins with "Vey" and ends with "ard", right?
This is an unnoficial artist's mockup based on a teaser trailer that is probably based on a generic prototype of the final hardware.
People lamenting the omission of an SD card slot or a thing-a-me widget or doobery-hick should probably hang fire - I'm sure it'll feature all of those things.
I don't have an issue with the "joy-con" D-pad purely because it is pulling double duty as face buttons in local mode. The pro pad has an proper man's (or woman's) D-Pad, since I'll be using that at home, I am good
This is sweet. I'm guessing the button under the d-pad is what unclicks the joy-cons from the track. That or the + and - buttons.
Interesting stuff, good job shaderbytes.
@GraveLordXD
Ya I was thinking the same thing. Not from the pic, but just from holding the Dualshock 4 day in day out. That little circular impression does make it work really well.
I don't think this will work as well as Sony's set up, but I think will work well enough. I believe what they were trying to go for is to have two controllers that could be used as actual controllers with four buttons, and I think we're kind of seeing that middle ground to where it can double as a D pad or as an actual controller with four buttons
To all those complaining about the lack of a dpad in the joycons, is there really any game these days that would really need it? The only games in my mind that truly need one are the old mortal kombat games, any other game is easily playable either the buttons or the stick. And of course, there's always the pro controller
Looks awesome cant wait for it to launch this going to be the most powerful and expensive handheld consoles ever. It's just a shame that Nintendo has pulled out of the home console arena.
@nab1
Well, actually yes a lot of games use it. I think the D pads are used as often if not more often then the analogues. Even if it's just flipping through menus or using them as item shortcuts they're definitely used all the time.
But that's not a problem because these look plenty adequate. I actually think the pads work better when they are separate buttons ( then again I really love the X1 Dpad also). I don't know, I don't really think the D pad matters just so long as you have one. It could be shaped like a + sign or four separate buttons or anything in between. As long as it's there it serves it's purpose.
@GraveLordXD
Lol, you know I've always enjoyed Nintendo's consoles. I just really enjoy the games the Nintendo makes, and although some of their inventions turn out better than others I always appreciate the new they bring to the table each generation. Without them, new generations wouldn't be that exciting because we would already know what we're going to get long before it's ever announced. Like, I don't want to see a mass return to motion controls but I'm glad we at least got one generation to experience what it was like to play games that way. And I'm glad to see that technology mature to a point where it can be implemented here and there on an as-needed basis where it makes sense to do so (like Pikmin 3).
I see new hardware like having a newborn child. You wouldn't sit there and snicker at your newborn and tell everyone how ugly his nose is and how crooked his feet are and how he should've had different colored hair. No, you see the beauty of the newborn and his potential and all the future joy he will bring you in this life. Later when he becomes a toddler you might get upset with him and reprimand him but at time of birth there is no reason to criticize the newborn.
When a new console hits the scene it's like a newborn. You see the joy it's going to bring you for future years to come. And down the line there might be issues that you complain about, but launch should be a celebration. We as gamers love games. And as people who love games we only have so many options to play said games. Why would we not be excited when the dedicated gaming market gives birth to a new son? There is only beauty in that. Only joy.
I know that might be a slightly odd comparison but that's really how I feel about it. I have absolutely nothing but delight when I see new gaming console hardware. As a fan of video games, this device is tailored to me. It's sole purpose of existing is to provide gaming experiences to people like me. And we only see new hardware once or twice a decade from the three main platform manufacturers. So whenever a new generation is ushered in it's time to grab a cigar and a bottle of your finest.
note I was particularly excited when VR was birthed into the dedicated gaming market last week on October 13. Because the tech may be young now but one day, one day, you know it's going to rule the gaming world. At least, anyone who has tried it surely thinks so. Even @rjejr was made a believer recently.
@AlexSora89
Nope. That's the name of the world man. You're not going to have a stage that size. And it's Weyard xD Tch Tch.
More like "Venus" and ends with "Lighthouse"
Oh and poop I just realized. No connected D-pad.
Nooooooooooo!
Nintendo why you do this? ;_;
I honestly hope the switch will have a pen like the 3ds and wii u gamepad.
I like the return of the c-buttons. Also this is pretty cool, during the live blog I was thinking about how cool it would be to have a 3D render to look at. XD
I'm just wondering how Mario Kart will play using the cons sideways without shoulder buttons.
Ok, funny enough, responding to my own message, before even posting it(this is weird).
I turned off my 3DS and tried figuring out how it would feel.
If they let us accelerate using Y, then X could be used for items and B for drifting.
This would actually work I believe.
But that leaves out the item swap thingy. It could use A, but that could be weird.
What do you guys think?
i play my wii u with a bigger extra battery screwed to the gamepad. it would be insane of nintendo not to make that a possibility for this. could take battery life from 3 hours to a nice 7.
@Sakura Maybe they could integrate some cloud-based storage account that we can pay for annually, and for a low price, like Pokemon Bank Accounts.
@speedracer216 @gloom One downsize to cartridges is that they're more expensive than disks, so there's less profit made.
I'm all for cartridges though.
@LasermasterA
Actually, the separated D-pad will acts as Command button if you use Joy Con Left as a wireless controller. If you watch from trailer, there were two guys playing Mario Kart 8 with only Joy Con L and R as wireless controller. You will see one of them use the separated D-pad as Command button to boost and throwing items while analog button as the actual D-pad.
Nice!
Can't be 100% sure but it looks like the triggers might be analogue again!
Wii U Alola form
Kick stand doesn't look up to the job you would think it would need two
@Artemis
Wii U Alola form ? XD
@_ijin That was one of the features which sunk the Vita so I doubt Nintendo will copy it. People do not take kindly to ridiculously expensive proprietary memory cards. I still can't believe that 64GB Vita cards go for as much as £110 when a 64GB microSD can be had for under £15. Madness.
@LasermasterA
Actually, the stage I had in mind was more like a roaming stage.
You know what I mean.
Much like the 3D Land stage in the 3DS version, a Golden Sun stage could tour the entire overworld, maybe by using a slightly less detailed version.
Maybe Skyloft gives the idea more clearly.
I have a nasty feeling we're going to get radio silence on Switch again. I really hope I'm wrong.
@YoshiAngemon Some cloud-based storage for account details would be great. They have Nintendo Account and MyNintendo to integrate and I have my fingers crossed that it's going to be better than the current set-up. Perhaps the NNID's days with its ties to a specific console are numbered.
@Anti-Matter
Well yes I saw that but the connected D-Pad, was really good. It was the perfect D-Pad imo and losing it is just sad >.<
@AlexSora89
Hmmm well your idea isn't bad as such but going all over Weyard won't be as iconic. Maybe having the montage of lighthouses, kinda like the Fire Emblem stage in Brawl. The Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Mars Lighthouse, with each lighthouse having it's own style based on how they were in Golden Sun.
@LasermasterA
Either that or, although it would be more fitting as a Final Fantasy stage, opting for a solution as classic as a simple airship.
Which makes me realize how cool Adept Airship sounds for the name of the stage.
I suspect no SD card slot. They'll need a storage solution that matches the speed of their cartridges and SD cards vary too much, even ones of the same 'class'
The gamepad has a d-pad just like the Playstation and people are complaining. Also, what's the small cross on the upper right side? Another d-pad?
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